Yeah but I don’t think many kids are watching cable, are they?
― Alba, Saturday, 31 July 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
they’re watching historical NBA games and full length t.i. concerts and mini-documentaries about the tallest people to have ever lived. if my house is any indication. it’s just a wealth of accumulated pop cult at their fingertips that would have blown my mind as a child.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 31 July 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
kids not only have access to the entire recorded output of the 20th century
lol
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
why would kids watch bad TV that we only watched because it was the only thing on
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Sunday, 1 August 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
It was bad because it was mind-numbing, but minds kind of like to be numb part of the time. And kids can't drink vodka.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 1 August 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
XP They're watching Friends, aren't they?
In all seriousness, Rob's list makes me think about how some shows could coast into multiple seasons simply because they were on between Friends and Seinfeld, or Seinfeld and ER. Definitely a lost art of sorts.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 August 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
Speaking of ER, are there <any> classic TV Dramas that Millennials Stan for? And by 'classic', I mean pre-Sopranos/prestige TV.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 August 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link
hmm. Twin Peaks for sure. and maybe more in the "genre" zone? ST:TNG and DS9, Buffy, etc....? a friend of mine got really into M*A*S*H a couple years ago.but it's an interesting question. i'm struggling to even think of that many classic TV dramas to start with - they're not on the tip of my tongue like sitcoms. and especially ones with either ongoing storylines, or a manageable overall episode count... feels like those might be important prerequisites for reasons i can't quite spell out.
― I honk along darkened Bobo-doors (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 1 August 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link
do mystery shows count as dramas? Murder She Wrote gets a lot of love out there. feel like i've encountered a few other Columbo lovers over the years....
― I honk along darkened Bobo-doors (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 1 August 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link
west wing maybe but that’s proto-prestige
― brimstead, Sunday, 1 August 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link
as far as dramas go
law and order?
― brimstead, Sunday, 1 August 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah, those mysteries are pretty big. I think Rockford has a growing following too.
And how could I forget the Star Treks and Buffy? Although genre fandom helps in those cases.
I was really thinking about something like ER, which was _HUGE_ in it's time, but seems like you never hear about anymore.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 August 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link
every six weeks another article runs about people discovering Columbo during lockdown #acabec
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 1 August 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
Writing a piece for NYT Sunday Styles on how people these days present on social media as Columbo (enigmatic, one step ahead, always nails the rich bastard) but live as Rockford (mobile home, broke, beaten up every week)— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) May 8, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 August 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link
I think that people have easier access to all kinds of things and are exposed to more, thanks to the wonders of algorithmic recommendations and the preservation of everything that exists now. But they aren't forced to endure it the same way. If I leave YouTube to autoplay some music videos and something comes on I don't enjoy I simply skip to the next one. And if I don't like that either I can search for something I will enjoy. Whereas, when I was growing up, I only had The Chart Show and TOTP and occasional trips to someone's house where they had The Box. So if I wanted to see music videos I had to take them all as a bundle together - so I could see my then-favourites like Bjork and Garbage, but I also had to sit through dreck like Boyzone. So even though I don't like their music I had a familiarity with it and sense of them. Whereas now I can simply skip past an Ed Sheeran video and remain completely ignorant, beyond knowing I won't enjoy it.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 1 August 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link
this is very true.
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
I remember arguing with Ilxors way way back when Top of the Pops got cancelled, saying that TOTP was a communal after-tea experience where, for example, everyone from your Dad, your Nan, your baby brother, would all get a glimpse into what was happening in the current charts, and everyone would have an opinion on, say, Brian Molko whether they cared about the music or not, which I think ties in a bit with what boxedjoy is saying.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 2 August 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link
https://s3.amazonaws.com/djwp/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/19155915/web_bbdb_EH_DJ-Arts-Beabadoobee_091.jpg
beabadoobee is leading the ’90’s revival
Inspired by the sounds of the late ’80s and early ’90s, beabadoobee cites Elliot Smith, The Moldy Peaches, and The Cardigans as early influences.
https://www.documentjournal.com/2021/04/beabadoobee-is-leading-the-90s-revival/
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 August 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
Obviously there is no way a show like TOTP or The Pepsi Chart would have worked since the mid-00s. Why would you expect the whole family to gather round the TV and sit together when everyone has their own taste and their own device to explore it?
― boxedjoy, Monday, 2 August 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
xp: lol.
― peace, man, Monday, 2 August 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
beabadoobee is excellent and yes she sounds a bit 90's in the same way Wolf Alice sound a bit 90's .
― akm, Monday, 2 August 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
Xp to boxedjoy - that's true but then you could make that case against all TV, not just TOTP
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
That said, the charts don't seem to mean half as much to people in general as they once did. Do people pay attention to who's number one any more?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
the spotify charts are a lot of people’s default playlists
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link
xp: lol.― peace, man, Monday, August 2, 2021 7:07 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglinkbeabadoobee is excellent and yes she sounds a bit 90's in the same way Wolf Alice sound a bit 90's .― akm, Monday, August 2, 2021 7:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― peace, man, Monday, August 2, 2021 7:07 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― akm, Monday, August 2, 2021 7:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
My lol was more at describing "Elliot Smith, The Moldy Peaches, and The Cardigans" as " late ’80s and early ’90s". Nothing matters.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link