"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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yeah Galloway has become a useful idiot for Labour it seems

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 09:51 (five years ago)

I don't know about useful but he is undeniably an idiot.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 2 July 2021 10:12 (five years ago)

Across both Hartlepool and Batley I'm seeing Labour at -7%. They won't win back the seats they lost in 2019.

But the fact is the won, so they can feed whatever story they like to Lab right ppl in the CLPs to lap up. Demonise Muslim voters and their vote will go down in other areas but they might get away with it now and then and that's enough because of a potential for white racist conservative voters. That's what they will tell themselves, not that it will happen.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:17 (five years ago)

Lmao

It was, in effect, a Tory seat (would have been Tory in 2019 if not for pro-Brexit independent), with Galloway a Labour vote-splitter

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:27 (five years ago)

It was, in effect, a Tory seat (would have been Tory in 2019 if not for pro-Brexit independent), with Galloway a Labour vote-splitter

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:33 (five years ago)

Lol sorry my phone is playing up

Another point going almost entirely unremarked today is that this dickhead saved Labour's majority & quite possibly Starmer's job. https://t.co/c0d86BASKR

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:33 (five years ago)

I think that disaffection with the Tories is the main factor in this result tbh. People are sick of the cunts

imago, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:57 (five years ago)

if only!

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 2 July 2021 10:59 (five years ago)

nah honestly I think we're gonna see some changes in the mood towards them

imago, Friday, 2 July 2021 11:01 (five years ago)

Lol

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 11:16 (five years ago)

even if you were right (and most of the national polling has the Tories something like 9 - 13 points ahead) at the moment, if say a snap election was called, the racist/austerity party of opposition would be on course to lose even more seats. And with the current direction they are going in who the fuck would even want these evil fuckers in power - they scare me more than Tories and more often than not seem to be attacking them from the right these days.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 11:50 (five years ago)

Tfw there is a change in mood

As I explain, Labour in effect gained the seat from the Tories

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:04 (five years ago)

They lie and lie some more even Eaton can't take it

Wasn't Labour's last by-election victory in Peterborough in 2019?

— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:06 (five years ago)

It’s not even a lie, imo, he seems to have internalised the idea that this was somehow a Tory seat that Labour had overturned rather than a Labour one they just about held on to.

The last seat Labour won from the Tories was 2012, iirc.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 12:12 (five years ago)

Corbyn won 9 mo'fking by-elections without putting out racially divisive leaflets or smearing non-voters as racists. And also it's a joke that the undead one doesn't seem to understand something as simple as a party with the most votes winning a seat in a fptp parliamentary system of democracy. ffs he's been around long enough.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:16 (five years ago)

Vile Islamophobia from Paul Mason in his New Statesman column on Batley and Spen.

Unacceptable that editors at @NewStatesman allowed this to be published pic.twitter.com/7y58NBB9Xl

— Fatima Said (@fatimazsaid) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:22 (five years ago)

just when you think that this ugly fucker can't get any worse, he'll end up at Spiked at this rate.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:23 (five years ago)

It’s not even a lie, imo, he seems to have internalised the idea that this was somehow a Tory seat that Labour had overturned rather than a Labour one they just about held on to.

The last seat Labour won from the Tories was 2012, iirc.

― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Isn't 'internalised the idea' by people who support Starmer another way of lying?

The idea this was a Tory seat comes from the localist independent group (which was run by a UK-per) that ran in 2019 but it could be that a lot of that went to Galloway, and that neither group are a gateway to the Tories, like the Brexit Party, say.

It's not part of the Red Wall.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:39 (five years ago)

Payne's deleted his tweet and apologised for the error.

I read Rentoul as saying it was 'effectively' a Tory seat and a Labour gain and Payne having heard this line so often he thought it was literally a Tory seat since 2019, but idk.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 12:45 (five years ago)

Bless. This is the happiest he’s been since the night of the riots. pic.twitter.com/jk7BI3yobw

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) July 2, 2021

lol I heard a report on the news that Kieth kept repeating "LABOUR IS BACK!" to all questions.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 12:46 (five years ago)

I read Rentoul as saying it was 'effectively' a Tory seat and a Labour gain and Payne having heard this line so often he thought it was literally a Tory seat since 2019, but idk.p

I think this is someway true, but its more that there's no clear demarcation between 'effectively' and 'literally', and they're rolled into one

anvil, Friday, 2 July 2021 13:08 (five years ago)

This has LJ energy.

I really, really want Labour to win the next general election so we can continue our unavoidable decline at a 5 degree rather than 45 degree trajectory. This sounds like a joke but I sincerely mean it

— Abi Wilkinson (@AbiWilks) July 2, 2021

I don't care about decline. I want this wealthy nation to feed all of its people not another party who exclude Muslims so that white racists can fuck about voting for them should their dear house prices take a tumble or they happen to be 'fed up'.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 13:17 (five years ago)

to be grown-up you've got get with the realpolitik and turn a blind eye to ethnic minorities getting slurred and thrown under a bus and accept eternal austerity, then we can get the Tories out!

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 13:50 (five years ago)

we're certainly on course for 5 degrees with Mandelson's Labour.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 14:15 (five years ago)

it would have really gone down really well if one of his ten pledges in the leadership election had been "rehabilitate the career of Mando and bring him in as an de facto chief advisor". Fuck me, imagine it!

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 14:28 (five years ago)

Not sure that ‘Labour will consistently make things worse, just slower’ is intended as a ringing endorsement or the limits of anyone’s ambition.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 14:51 (five years ago)

I still think that position is giving way too much credit to Starmer Labour.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 14:58 (five years ago)

on a longer winning streak than Italy by now https://t.co/Jee4qlWGtn pic.twitter.com/gM3xSnfAIX

— PolProf Wariotifo (@wariotifo) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 17:00 (five years ago)

it looks like Diane knew! I once heard Vine on R4 unironically refer to her ugly little spud of a hubbie as an alpha-male... maybe on planet of the gnomes, hun.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 19:36 (five years ago)

Jack Sprat and wife to divroce.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 2 July 2021 19:41 (five years ago)

Im sure she knows the other rumours about Gove too, including the one that's culminated in this

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:06 (five years ago)

Wow

crisp, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:20 (five years ago)

I assume that’s what she was referring to, which is pretty lousy imo.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:24 (five years ago)

Considering that Gove thinks he should be allowed to take class A drugs without facing the consequences that poor people do, I think every dirty secret he has should be exposed

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:26 (five years ago)

Depends how you define ‘dirty secret’ in this situation tho.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:27 (five years ago)

Okay, how about this kind of hypocrisy then

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/feb/18/anti-gay-book-gove-row

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:29 (five years ago)

To be clear, my problem is with Gove and his nauseating sanctimony and despicable rhetoric, not anything he's done, including coke and men

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:30 (five years ago)

Coke and cock?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:36 (five years ago)

Not to mention his libellous shit about Corbyn being some kind of terrorist. Gove being continually in government from 2010 is a failure of the state.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:36 (five years ago)

It is, but Abbott wasn’t attacking him for hypocrisy.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:37 (five years ago)

I don't think she attacked him at all, but you're not suggesting she was engaging in homophobia, are you surely? She intimated that Tories like Vine making a big deal about extra-marital affairs should look to the adultery in their own marriage.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:40 (five years ago)

that rumour from 2016 about a Gove affair with Dom seems off the mark, it was obv their amazing branes that fucked each other senseless

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:42 (five years ago)

🚨 | NEW: Number 10 has refused to say whether Michael Gove has broken any social distancing rules, and there are questions over his living arrangements during the lockdowns

Via @Telegraph

— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) July 2, 2021

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:52 (five years ago)

Look, at this stage, I just want Gove to be destroyed, the man is a blight on public life

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:53 (five years ago)

I think teachers have a much greater hatred of Gove than even junior doctors have of Jeremy Cunt, so QED he'd have been a bigger danger to the NHS than Saj.

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 21:08 (five years ago)

https://t.co/caNAONYMgV pic.twitter.com/PkH0yfr2Lw

— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) July 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2021 21:42 (five years ago)

I won £2.70 on euromillions tonight yaaaay!

calzino, Friday, 2 July 2021 21:55 (five years ago)

get in

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 July 2021 21:55 (five years ago)

Sarah Vine bullied a friend of mine to a breakdown, so screw her.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Friday, 2 July 2021 22:10 (five years ago)

this proposed rare policy announcement by Reeves, the "Buy British" plan, sounds very business focused and probably not as good as the similar one by Corbz, but it isn't half boiling the piss of the FBPE crowd so fair play!

MoMsnet (calzino), Sunday, 4 July 2021 09:45 (four years ago)


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