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I assume that there's something Tolkien-related going on with My People Were Fair and Had Sky in Their Hair but Now They're Content to Wear Stars in Their Brow?

Hobbits arent elflike ffs

All the same to me, I'm afraid.

^gets it

Bolan is more likableI like Bolan more.

― treeship., Wednesday, June 30, 2021 3:06 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Fixed it for you.

Sorry, I'm just loling that somehow LZ's three slight Tolkien references are somehow heavy-handed but Bolan splashing Tolkien-juice on every square inch of his catalog is some charming elfin sage.

The person who said LZ were heavy-handed was not the same person who said Bolan was charming... so that doesn't work? Personally, I like LZ well enough but have never taken any notice of their lyrics - Gollum and all - whereas many's the time I've chuckled along to Bolan's folderol nonsense.

Are there Tolkien references on The Slider? I never noticed.

It's mostly pre-fame Bolan.

Well, the point of comparing it to Star Wars references was to say, I don't know how the Tolkien stuff would have hit a 1970's person, because I wasn't there. Maybe it wasn't much different to hearing some pop-punk band sing "use the force" in 1996. Probably not, but i can't know that.

anyone arguing that the beatles aren't shit at this point are melts. I've done extensive research on this subject and am completely correct. comments are closed.

I have a lot more context at my disposal for the Star Wars stuff. Whereas if referencing LOTR was Robert Plant's way of injecting levity into LZ songs, I wouldn't know.

The context I do have suggests that it wasn't.

Apparently, he regrets is a bit now, at least according to Planet Rock:

Elsewhere in the interview, Plant said his contributions to Led Zeppelin were sometimes “great” and sometimes they "missed the mark.”
Elucidating further, he explained: “My peer group were writing substantial pieces of social commentary, and I was willowing along the Welsh borders thinking about Gollum.
“I liked what I did, but now I look at it and go ‘Wooh, that was a bit iffy.’ But I do like ‘Stairway To Heaven. I can look at it objectively. I can’t always get my head around it, but it does do something substantial.”

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/robert-plant-took-inspiration-from-pink-floyd-for-led-zeppelins-final-show/

I would dispute that the Tolkien stuff is a central part of any of LZ’s identity as there’s so much more that comes to mind first - the riffs, Bonham, Page as producer and Jones as studio wiz, the sound of the songs and Plants voice - before any of the lyrics

there’s so much more that comes to mind first - the riffs, Bonham, Page as producer and Jones as studio wiz, the sound of the songs and Plants voice - before any of the lyrics

It's kind of fascinating that the only time anyone discusses Led Zeppelin's lyrics, it's to point out a line they hate. I can't recall anyone ever having anything positive to say about their lyrics.

Just to tie everything together, did people know that an adaptation of Lord of the Rings starring the Beatles was suggested at one point?

Paul as Frodo
Ringo as Sam
John as Gandalf
George as Strider

I said something positive about the lyrics to "Carouselambra" above!

omg lock thread

It rings a bell but I might be thinking of ringo as larry the dwarf in 200 motels.

anyone arguing that the beatles aren't shit at this point are melts. I've done extensive research on this subject and am completely correct. comments are closed.

Well, this is a thread for controversy after all

I can't recall anyone ever having anything positive to say about their lyrics.

"Rock and Roll" is an effective and subtle portrait of a failing marriage.

"Sick Again" is a heartfelt depiction of the difficulty of dealing with recurrent illness.

"'immigrant song' that's where i'm a viking!"

People putting down Plant's Tolkien lyrics should give a listen to the Humble Pie record I have on:

"Lord, sometimes... ya make me feel so bad!
Sometimes... ya make me feel so sad!"

By the standards of the era and the genre, he wasn't egregious.

it do be like that tho

the bo hansson lord of rings album fucking rules

sorry not a controversial op

Yeah but it's instrumental, if he'd called it "A Trip Along The Waterways Of Sweden" or whatever people would be raving about how much it sounds like fjords. Does rule though, whatever it's about.

Are the various Swedish concept albums about Moomins (e.g. peter Lundblad and Trobjorn Ekelund) nursery rhyme shit or epic fantasy shit?

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good

This one

https://www.discogs.com/Tove-Jansson-Mika-Pohjola-2-Erna-Tauro-Johanna-Gr%C3%BCssner-Muminr%C3%B6ster-Moomin-Voices/release/6063322

I have that one too, it sounds a bit like Dungen. And i think a third one in addition to "vem ska trosta knyttet"

The one you linked is the best of the 3

Not ta det lugnt but later dungen

Like vince guaraldi peanuts meets dungen

Ha, I can kind of see that

norm macdonald was okay

Not a controversial opinion

Norm macdonald was very funny, but ilxors are in denial about what he was really like personally, and seem to be happy to ignore his sexual assaults.

his sexual assaults

Got a link? My own searches turn up nothing.

Fuckin thank you. I hadn't heard any of the sexual assault stories but that clip of him on Conan where he mauls Courtney Thorne-Smith as an explicit gesture of sexual power/dominance over the Conan because he knows they both find her attractive and Norm wants to get there first, was so repulsive. (Later in the segment, he interrupts Conan's questioning of CTS to make himself the center of attention a bunch of times including insulting fat people and a premature ejaculation joke iirc--I shut it off at that point.)

I never watched any show or thing that Norm MacDonald was on so I have no attachment to him, so maybe it's easy for me to say but...fuck that guy.

Norm McDonald stuck his hand down my pants and groped my ass 10 years ago when I asked for a picture with him.

— Molly (of no relation to fun drug) (@Mollyissilly) September 14, 2021

This happened to my sister in law and the creep was Norm MacDonald. True story.

— Josh Fairhurst (@LimitedRunJosh) June 23, 2020

Yeah, that stuff has been saddening to read about. The Brandon Teena joke too.

Yeah, even among the more scathing postmortems I haven't heard anything about that.

Norm MacDonald casually confessing to sexual assault in an interview that brought no further attention to it is a reminder that #MeToo was badly needed. Being famous and funny makes it all too easy for men to get away with this shit. pic.twitter.com/ID7Z294uJi

— Wet Silk (@Fractalmatic) September 15, 2021

Norm Macdonald on Louis C.K. & Roseanne Barr: "There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that" https://t.co/w6OeRcEO77

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) September 11, 2018

Norm MacDonald was always fucking gross

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good

The Many Moods of Norm McDonald

the post-Gram Flying Burrito Bros’ “Tried So Hard” is considerably better than Gene’s (which is still obv classic no arg there)

guess there’s probably a better thread for this Controversial Opinion on ilm

Not that controversial either tbh.