Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

lol just joshin LL

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my most controversial thought about phrasal verbs is that they are insider/outsider markers

(shrugs) since non-native ESL speakers obviously struggle with phrasal verbs and this is equally apparent to them as it is to native speakers, I don't understand what you think would be controversial about this opinion, but... eh, whatever.

The context that I first noticed “close out” (it’s not heard in the UK, I don’t think) was a American talking of “closing out” an episode of a podcast. Just “close” would have meant exactly the same, no?

Similarly with “head” and “head up” etc

there are hundreds of phrasal verbs in english and we have new ones every day (pop out, search up) -- i don't think we have time or energy to legislate the worth of each

just give in ;)

Oh yeah, it doesn’t really bother me. Wrong thread, I guess.

A lot of those prepositions in phrasal verbs seem to indicate a completed action - “ate” vs “ate up”, “closed” vs “closed out”.

Pop out is definitely not new! But I think you mean in it a different way to I would generally use it.

"Knock up" and "ring up" are British idioms, not USian ones

start a thread on phrasal verbs and I will show up!

Again a US/UK thing but I never used to hear “the colours pop”, meaning the colours really stand out. If anything I’d have said “pop out” for that. But “pop out” more often to mean “I saw his head pop out of the sunroof” or “I’ve got to pop out to the shops”. It’s a very useful phrasal verb!

Pop out also means to go to a party or make a social appearance
Some people say pop in and others say pop out

* I’ll pop in around 9 before going to the (xyz)
* I’m gonna pop out around. 9, see you there

“Close out” also means to sell the last of something on clearance, in America.

it can also mean to stay a bar until closing time!

stay AT a bar

Ah OK, I’ve never heard anyone say pop out to mean pop in. You’re sure you didn’t just hear it to mean that from context when actually they meant pop out as in leave their home (on the way to the event?)

I popped out my flat to pop into the party

“I’ve got to pop out to the shops”.

This is my favourite. Pop in is used a lot too.

"Knock up" and "ring up" are British idioms, not USian ones

A lot of those prepositions in phrasal verbs seem to indicate a completed action - “ate” vs “ate up”, “closed” vs “closed out”.

"Dust up" is a good one

"Knocked up" has several meanings in British English, at least one of which is the same as the American one?

"ate up" as a phrasal verb has other connotations beyond literal eating though, such as "uncritically/enthusiastically believe something"

I literally asked my student who used the term “pop out” what she meant and then confirmed w the rest of the class that this is a commonly understood usage. I’ve got a MA in Lx and 15+ years of teaching English language learners, please give me one (1) benefit of doubt for knowing what I am talking about in these fields?

I would take that usage of 'pop out' to mean like 'jump out'. I'm imagining a pop-up book. Maybe?

isn’t “pop” the verb and “in” the direction you’re popping tho? As in, not a phrasal verb?

Sorry, LL.

Pop (for My Love)

"Knock up" and "ring up" are British idioms, not USian ones

In the US you "ring up" a customer's purchases at the cash register. (Which is likely a computer terminal which does not make a ringing noise. Antique phrasing lingering into the present.)

in american football defensive coordinators 'dial up a blitz' for no earthly reason at all, but that's the hackneyed cliche

I ate up my popover after popping in to the pop-up

I popped the question to the poptimist

Overuse of 'aesthetic' as synonymous with 'style'

No that’s good

the british expression "all sorts"

i don't know why, but i hate it so much, hate it hate it hate it hate it

dolly mixture is better

I like it when it describes a bad of licorice

*bag

well sure that’s a different pack of sweets altogether

"we can take that one away and have a look at it"

"quick wins"

How dyou feel abt "one and done"

hmm what's the context

i think i've only heard it referring to e.g. a basketball playoff. 'oh the sixers? they're going to be one and done'

"guys theres fifteen tickets there i want someone to review and identify the quick wins and any oneandones we can bat away"

Have heard "one and done" a lot this year re the Johnson & Johnson vaccine

Yeah broadly speaking it captures the concept

ok in this context i definitely hate it

Yes thats right

I got the J&J and used that phrase a few times, I am guilty of this