US Politics June 2021 - "Where we're going, we don't NEED bipartisanship"

America was a joke and the comic has been getting booed for hours and he still tells it

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Nancy Pelosi making some moves today on a select committee for 1/6 and on getting the reconciliation package done ahead of infrastructure. I think this is a smart direction for her, taking a more aggressive stance and recognizing the political reality that these things will only happen if she makes them happen.

Lmao

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/rudy-giuliani-suspended-law/index.html

Oh no, how is he going to put food on the table now, poor Rooty

Pobrecito

any one of us could probably just call rudy right now and tell him we know where to find money, he is open to all leads

Probably on a nightly basis:
"Hi! Uh.. is Donald near the phone?"
"No."
"Mmmkkayy.. you see, I just need a little help to tide me over until..."
<Click>
"Hello?"

I tried calling but all I heard was muffled voices and the rustling of cloth and the occasional fart, for roughly twenty minutes before the line went dead

the democrats

As Portman mentions here, Trump proposed a $2 trillion infrastructure plan. So the compromise bill Biden agreed to here not only includes zero of the taxes he originally proposed but is less than half the size of the proposal of the leader of the party with which he compromised https://t.co/8NV0xiprtZ

— Steve Morris (@stevemorris__) June 24, 2021

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

What the hell, is this 1953?
I don't even know what he's talking about... I follow the wrathful, spiteful god Crom, does he really care?

xpost - Fuckin' Sinema really working hard to push herself front and center for the cameras. Guess the attention for her little thumbs down flourish wore off a little.

cute blouse though

If the Dems pass a Sinema-Manchin bill and they agree to reconcile a bigger bill, I guess it's fine.

Fair, I just lost all patience with her after that little display, on top of everything else.

btw, admit to being happy to see you posting Alfred. can never remember where exactly you are and thought of you when i saw the news of that collapse in Miami this morning.

thanks! No, outsiders (no shade) tend to confuse "Miami" with "Miami Beach." I am many, many miles away.

It's fair, I'm absolutely terrible with Florida geography and fully admit to seeing "Miami" in anything and thinking it's the same general vicinity. Still, glad you are safe.

which is the one that's underwater

your mom

you're thinking of your mom beach

so I was seeing earlier today that the House wouldn't be voting on infrastructure until after reconciliation, but now I'm having a hard time confirming that

ask your sources on The Hill.

Biden doesn't trust Manchin or Sinema (or the Republicans):

! @JoeBiden says "if this (bipartisan deal) is the only thing that comes to me, I'm not signing it."

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) June 24, 2021

no idea what the point of this is then, unless it's a shell game so manchin can say he did a deal.

Biden (and Pelosi, this morning) are signaling that unless both packages are passed in the senate - the bipartisan one and the one that will only pass with 50 dem votes via reconciliation - they won’t approve either of them.

Manchin and sinema are supposedly on board with the 50 vote reconciliation bill (I think?), but these are measures to enforce that promise on both, since they fucking suck

AFAICT

the democrats

🐦[As Portman mentions here, Trump proposed a $2 trillion infrastructure plan. So the compromise bill Biden agreed to here not only includes zero of the taxes he originally proposed but is less than half the size of the proposal of the leader of the party with which he compromised https://t.co/8NV0xiprtZ🕸
— Steve Morris (@stevemorris__) June 24, 2021🕸]🐦

and Trump had a pliant Senate.

it's a good burn because this bill sucks.

this is good though

Yeah, good, ok pic.twitter.com/UOvxLBorZW

— Paul E Williams (@PEWilliams_) June 24, 2021

I don't get the next Williams tweet where he writes "Shouldn't have let R governors push workers off of UI during a pandemic." Who's the subject -- Biden? What could Biden have done with a Republican governor?

Maybe they're saying the bill shouldn't have given opt out power? Idk.

Bernie addressed that, there is some hypothetical mechanism to overrule the guvs

MANCHIN on Biden’s two-track approach: “It’s the only strategy we have—is two track.”

“Reconciliation is inevitable,” he says, indicating that Republicans made it inevitable by opposing tax hikes.

Manchin says he wants “adjustments” to the ‘17 Trump tax cuts.

(via @frankthorp)

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 24, 2021

so Manshit IS cool with reconciling the second bill

Trust but verify

Доверяй, но проверяй

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As6y5eI01XE

the compromise isn't just a subset of what progressives (and most of the centrist congressional democratic party) wanted. it's got a bunch of bullshit (or possibly intentional poison pills) like asset recycling.

that plus this (obviously correct!) view from the GOP side makes me suspicious that someone is getting played.

I cannot emphasize this enough: Republicans would be absolutely idiotic to agree to a infrastructure deal without an ironclad assurance that Democrats won't turn around & pass a reconciliation bill with the rest of the $trillions that the GOP just fought to remove from this deal.

— Brian Riedl 🧀 (@Brian_Riedl) June 24, 2021

the bad stuff in the compromise isn't *that* bad relative to trillions of spending. so if they pass this with ten GOP votes and do a big $$$ human infrastructure reconciliation bill and machin/sinema can add "brokered a bipartisan compromise" to their linkedin profiles then ... great! but i'm v v skeptical.

I don't necessarily agree with that tweet. I can totally see the republicans being fine showing that they can compromise and get an infrastructure deal everyone agrees on and then turning around and complaining about how democrats stabbed them in the back with a partisan reconciliation bill.

what has happened in the past 10 years that suggests republicans think it's advantageous for them to show they can compromise with democrats?

if it involves generally popular things like infrastructure and plenty of pork to spread around to their constituents, why not? I wouldn't be surprised that passing up on the first, very popular reconciliation bill ended up hurting them more than helping, and they are less thrilled about not having their names on another bill that will be generally popular. Don't forget that their choices are get their names on a popular infrastructure bill or try to block it and see it pass anyway through reconciliation thereby denying them any credit.

I don't necessarily agree with that tweet. I can totally see the republicans being fine showing that they can compromise and get an infrastructure deal everyone agrees on and then turning around and complaining about how democrats stabbed them in the back with a partisan reconciliation bill.

Sorry, I’m in an airport

Not sure if this is the right thread, but re: Afghanistan... for all this talk of "this is not the fall of Saigon," it's sure looking like the fall of Saigon.

the fall of Saigon was simply the removal of the props supplied by outsiders that had artificially kept it from falling. the outcome of the civil war within Vietnam had been decided long beforehand. Kabul is different only in the details, not the overall dynamic of the war.

Yeah, I guess it's just the cosmetics of it... rushing to get translators and their families to somewhere like Guam; the Taliban seem to be on the march towards Kabul, and their forces are at an all-time high numberically. I don't know if we'll see helicopters on rooftops but I wouldn't be that surprised.

lol

MCCONNELL: "Less than two hours after publicly commending our colleagues and endorsing the bipartisan agreement, the President took the extraordinary step of threatening to veto it... That’s not the way to show you’re serious about getting a bipartisan outcome."

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 24, 2021

More on Gen. Milley, coincidentally:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/bender-book-trump-milley-protests/index.html

"That's how you're supposed to handle these people," Trump told his top law enforcement and military officials, according to Bender. "Crack their skulls!"
Trump also told his team that he wanted
the military to go in and "beat the f--k out" of the civil rights protesters, Bender writes.
"Just shoot them," Trump said on multiple occasions inside the Oval Office, according to the excerpts.
When Milley and then-Attorney General William Barr would push back, Trump toned it down, but only slightly, Bender adds.
"Well, shoot them in the leg—or maybe the foot," Trump said. "But be hard on them!"
The new details about how Milley and a handful of other senior officials were forced to confront Trump's increasingly volatile behavior during the final months of his presidency only add to an already detailed portrait of dysfunction inside the White House at that time.