the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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i've never forgiven george lucas for starting yourprops.com

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

cannot BELIEVE lucas tried to make us get individual building meter data

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

i was talking about the baseball hat

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

if i made a thread called "the crimes of hitler" i dont think anyone would complain that it shouldnt be in plural because his crime is "the holocaust"

well if the point of the thread was to start a poll over what was specifically the worst of his crimes, people might

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

The rest of us just get a yourprops.com logo placeholder.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

i think the china-town sounding trade federation dudes said something like that in ep 1

^^ this, far and away -- if you can't get individual building utility data out of the application, how are we supposed to verify savings?

oh no I mean: the prequels had maybe a bit much of sorta ethnic-typed aliens, which I think we've discussed plenty before

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watto

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

lucas and spielberg represent a lot of people in hollywood who apparently think the audience just can't handle moderately edgy shit anymore.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

well if the point of the thread was to start a poll over what was specifically the worst of his crimes, people might

― da croupier, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:54 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

let us not split hairs and have this dumb argument, everyone knows what i meant. can we just keep laughing about the meter thing

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

i have GONE OFF about this before, but what really drives me nuts is that the basic scenario laid out in the prequels is really interesting! but they are still horrible. it's like someone made three really horrible movies out a great novel about a despot's rise to power. except there's no such novel. it's the weirdest thing.

xp yes wtf how can u introduce the idea of SLAVERY in the universe and then not address it ever again

goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

lucas and spielberg represent a lot of people in hollywood who apparently think the audience just can't handle moderately edgy shit anymore.

― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:55 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and yet you see a transformer's balls in TF2 :(

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

not splitting hairs, slocki, the observation wasn't earnest

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

gotcha

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

balls are funny lol : D

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

nb I am usually less morally "offended" by ethnic-type aliens (though there's maybe a bit of that with Watto or JarJar) and more just aesthetically offended, like ... please actually make up a fucking alien from your head and not just animate some CGI Central Casting Stock Mildly Offense Ethnic Archetype shit

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

knowing what little i do know about producers via my limited interaction w/them, i can say that they're mostly total retards who get bored by difficult films like 'heat' and 'the departed'

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i think that's why everyone hated them nabisco

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

so a couple of giant nuts swinging to and fro onscreen would naturally be the most hilarious thing imaginable to them xp

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

adding a candy-ass scream to luke's climactic fall in Empire so that his suicidal rejection of darth becomes "OH SHIT, I SLIPPED!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

maybe he was just psyched to be getting away from his freak dad

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

han solo stepping on tiny jabba's tail in episode iv

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

i have GONE OFF about this before, but what really drives me nuts is that the basic scenario laid out in the prequels is really interesting! but they are still horrible. it's like someone made three really horrible movies out a great novel about a despot's rise to power. except there's no such novel. it's the weirdest thing.

^

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

to be fair, swinging close-up IMAX testicles would be marginally funny for 30 seconds or so, and will probably feature in a Baron-Cohen movie at some point

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

making people call star wars "episode IV: A New Hope"

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^

that, too me is the greatest crime

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

omg totally

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

like seriously, from teh coolest movie title ever (at least when you're a kid), STAR. WARS. to... "a new hope."

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

or making Raiders into Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

A New Hope that Lucas will stop fucking with Star Wars

Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

it sounds like some corny-ass mandy moore flick about the summer after high school

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

her name is "hope" in the film

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

Anakin: I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

haaaaa xp

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

this is kinda funny: http://www.starwarsuncut.com/

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

The CGI "celebration sequence across the galaxy" in Return of the Jedi, the updated version. Like the Ewok song was bad enough George.

pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

"death sticks"

Grip Tape And Some Wikked Trucks (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

can't imagine what a kid who's already seen I-III would think of "A New Hope." But then any kid that actually sat through I-III without the memory of the original trilogy is already unfathomable to me.

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

ya i mean, if you watch them "in order" does it make any kind of sense?

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it's weird to think that someday (if not already) there will be folks who will naturally gravitate towards watching the six films in numerical order

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

like doesn't it completely undercut the big darth is luke's father reveal??

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

I keep drilling my 8 year old son over and over again that Empireis the best, but Ep III is his favorite.
"Anakin's annoying."
"So what, he's cool. And I like droidekas."

pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

droidekas?

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

This is probably more of a good thing than a crime, but that the key battle scene between Anakin and Obi Wan Kenobi appears to be entirely modelled on the Black Knight scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

Keith, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

like doesn't it completely undercut the big darth is luke's father reveal??

what a disaster this will be for whatever young mutant would actually watch them all for the first time in numerical order

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

you'd like to think by halfway through Clones they'd just put on some brokencyde and play a video game

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

ya im just sayin!!

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

i guess what really pissed me off is that when i watched the original trilogy i there were passing mentions of a young anakin/vader, i always imagined this amazing charismatic, grim, kinda sociopathic dude who would be played by some epic actor, but then they toss it to some asshole who comes off like a fratboy killer from some episode of csi: miami.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

"and there"

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

that's almost too complimentary to hayden christiansen

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

what bugs me even more is that young badass obi wan turned out to be such a drip... he really should have been the han of hte series...

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

"Whoo boy do those circa-2004 F/X 'upgrades' stick out like a sore thumb)"

One thing that puzzled me about the DVD of THX-1138 is that nowhere in the commentary track does George Lucas acknowledge that it was a special edition with extra CGI. It's as if the studio did it without his knowledge, and then told him that he had to accept it. And yet apparently he was involved in the process, according to this interview, so who I am.

I saw it first when it was on Alex Cox's Moviedrome, and someone has preserved the introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qYPwrvfN7M

I remember it started with a clip from Buck Rogers, or Flash Gordon, and the credits went the other way, but both of those things were taken out of the DVD version. It's actually pretty good as a typical early-70s dystopian sci-fi film. A bit like Phase IV but with a more coherent ending. "But it doesn't have ants", ah but the people are like ants - bald, and the wear white suits, just like ants.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 22:09 (one year ago)


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