David Lynch - Classic or Dud

I definitely don’t need more. I don’t need anything, ray. If there’s one thing you should know about me, ray, it’s that I don’t need. I want.

i re-dove into the whole "episodes 17 and 18 are meant to be played simultaneously!" thing again, the last couple nights, and man it felt good!

and regardless of intent, i still find this to be one of the most beautiful images

https://i.imgur.com/tuRub45.png

Huh, all those TP cast members posting Wisteria does seem pretty significant/telling.

I thought someone asked Mark Frost on Twitter, though, and he said he has nothing to do with whatever wisteria is.

If we take her at her "it's not code!" word, I feel bad for Sherilyn Fenn if it turns out the others were posting wisteria photos because they're involved and she just happened to think the wisteria was nice.

I don't want any more Twin Peaks, nothing could follow the end of S3 without feeling like a compromise.

Fwiw, I feel the opposite (would love one more thing, even just a movie, to tie up the… loose ends); but will also be plenty satisfied if that never happens.

lol they all look coincidental tbh

Michael Horse’s is captioned “on my walk today”, Amanda Seyfried has tagged 2 of her friends who don’t seem to have anything to do with TP. I’m not even sure these are all pictures of wisteria. Some are from April or May, one is new.

Hays strikes me as someone, like George Griffith, who is as much a fan as a participant & likes to get involved in the hype so I think her “I learned about something” bit is literally just her reading the same articles everyone else is - she has been in a total of four scenes ever so I would not be assuming Heidi the waitress has deep inside knowledge on the next lynch project

Can't believe everyone is this hyped for Lynch's Desperate Housewives reboot

Could it be these folks are all tuned in to Lynch to some degree and are aware of the title “wisteria” and then just started to notice wisteria out in the world and either consciously or unconsciously posted wisteria in their socials either as an homage / hello to Lynch and fans

That seems more likely than a coded confirmation that this is s4 and around as likely as some of them just liking flowers

Yeah I would think it would be kinda rude for them to do that as a fake-out without knowing the "score" (or having Lynch's blessing), but what do I know.

(also, for all we know, Heidi the waitress could be central to the whole thing, lol)

> tie up the… loose ends

More Twin Peaks would only make more loose ends. Looking forward to whatever the heck he's up to.

S4 is mainly about billy. Heidi would def be a part of it

Can't believe everyone is this hyped for Lynch's Desperate Housewives reboot

Desperate Houserabbits

Oh, that would be fine.

also K-Mac does seem to be really into dropping cryptic little hints about stuff

I don't follow him but whenever I see his "cryptic references" linked they always seem to be straightforward, genial fanservice like recreating the opening Diane monologue in his car, or splitscreening himself reacting to tiktoks of dessert pie by sipping coffee

he's probably doing loads of posts of himself wearing an admiral's hat, or not fucking his wife, and sending the How I Met Your Mother and Sex In The City housewives into frenzies of speculation about secret reunion series too

housewives fans

(I realised I don't know anything about his Desperate Housewives character but deleted the wrong bit)

lol I checked his twitter and he's twooted this week about Dune and Sex In The City, and a few posts/weeks back offered this clear indication that Cooper is unstuck in the timestream for Peaks S4:

Happy Anniversary to #TheFlintstones and the stone-cold villain, Cliff Vandercave. He might have been sly, but boy did he make some boulder power moves! 🦕🪨🦴 pic.twitter.com/pOi3q75j3I

— Kyle MacLachlan (@Kyle_MacLachlan) May 27, 2021

That fan-service stuff feels different from the Wisteria tweet though?

What was the wisteria tweet again? The main thing in that article was him posting a tweet on the 30th anniversary of “how’s annie” & saying something like “I guess maybe we’ll find out one day!” which is def just fan service (if there is a 4th season it is unlikely to be about how Annie is lol)

Yeah I agree with that

there are so many overlaps between eraserhead and the return, it's kind of bewildering. not just well-known things like the zigzag floors in both, the sound design (heavy use of foley, which is an investment that ALWAYS pays off imo), black and white scenes, pacing.

but also the very beginning of eraserhead is very similar to the twin peaks narrative of the atomic bomb and a sort of "birth of evil", a sending of a celestial body to earth or some version of earth that's not quite right.

yep EH and episode 8 are both cosmologies, or maybe alternate views of the same cosmology

I happen to be in the middle of a (very) longform analysis of The Return; she goes into great detail around the visual and thematic parallels w/Eraserhead (and Blue Velvet).

sweeeeeeet, i want to read that.

also: eraserhead is funny. like, very, very funny. i guess people know that, but in the pop culture lynch word cloud, i feel like "funny" doesn't come up often, and especially not for stuff like eraserhead, which is also very, very terrifying. but i can see why it grabbed the attention of mel brooks - absurd recognizes absurd. (probably influenced by the fact that the first words i saw on the screen on my millionth rewatch this evening were "ABSURDA")

thanks for that link morrisp - enjoying the deep dive

was just reading the bit about the ep 1 New York box - she talks about the horror movie trope of being punished for having sex and that's absolutely in play (I appreciate too her kinder reading of sex representing a scary unknown for younger people) - and I remember there's definitely a sense that fucking somehow summons the entity in the box...

but in tandem with this there's a feeling that the dude is being derelict in his duty by _not watching the box_, like that's his One Job - and I was toying with the idea of this being a inverse of the schrodinger's cat thought experiment - like maybe that watching the box is the thing that stops some kind of terrifying quantum uncertainty from manifesting - then in the next paragraph that critic starts to talk about Heisenberg but coming at it from a completely different route - via coffee and Annie in S2 and Alphaville! - and anyway it was quite a trippy couple of paragraphs to be reading before dawn

I feel I will never grow tired of letting my mind roam over the landscape of this show

Glad you're enjoying it! Yeah, her attention to detail is incredible - I mean just incredible, she pores over every detail of the frame - and she goes on some fascinating tangents (and even if a certain % of the connections she draws may seem dubious, in a "no way could all this actually have been intended" kind of way, her free associations are fascinating all the same).

I discovered that site around four years ago, in the context of her Kubrick writing, and read her shot-by-shot analysis of Eyes Wide Shut (it took me days!). I revisited it a week or so ago, and found she had tackled The Return in the interim... I was like, oohhhh snap, gotta read this.

(Also, certain aspects of The Return have always felt sort of Kubrick-ian to me; so it was satisfying to see that this particular Kubrick nut is also a TP/Lynch nut.)

It's also a nice complement to other online Twin Peaks writing (my personal favorite is by this guy), because she doesn't get so much into analyzing the "big picture" questions or coming up with big theories, and instead tackles the show on more a nuts & bolts level of what a viewer's impressions may be as they watch in real time (though obviously she's writing it after having absorbed it all).

I wouldn't normally dare be so gauche as to post a meme, but this is scarily relatable to me:

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/228764671_375111773982087_8199663706223836590_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=CifgfXR39_oAX9cknLZ&tn=XH2JVfvgE2vGS31K&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=2d354f5457e2b7d8f12168b1f9d04f44&oe=61368AAA

so relatable

Sounds bad, folks

ICYMI, the original, seemingly reliable Reddit insider tipster now says David Lynch’s long-gestating project with Netflix, Wisteria / Unrecorded Night, is no longer in development there.“It's possible that it maybe goes to someone else or maybe they start prod again @ later date” https://t.co/73bOrUDhXa

— --------- (@fatecolossal) September 23, 2021

Was kinda waiting for this news tbh given no official announcement 4 months after they were meant to have started filming - I assume the pandemic spiked it

Ah well. We'll always have the weather reports.

Unrecorded Wisteria

I watched The Straight Story, on Disney+ (based on a recommendation in the Inland Empire thread). What a remarkable movie. Really glad I saw it (I really had a misconception of what it would be like).

hey morrisp, what age kids do you think would appreciate the Straight Story?

It's sounding like a new film may be debuting at Cannes

So the answer is Blue Velvet / Wild at Heart and Twin Peaks (I'm glad to see so many people are as excited as I am about a new David Lynch film) - Variety have just run an article about Lightyear https://t.co/31du84ygoc

— Kaleem Aftab (@aftabamon) April 11, 2022

In related news, I'm planning to catch Inland Empire at Austin Film Society the 2nd week of May

xp I'd say older preteen or teenager; it's not very "kid"-oriented, despite the much-discussed G rating.

xp (to myself)

Don't know who this guy is, but –

David Lynch just told me in no uncertain terms he does not have a new film at Cannes this year. Take that for what it’s worth.

Also, um I just had David Lynch on the podcast.

Coming soon. pic.twitter.com/1GnPftrqBA

— Josh Horowitz (@joshuahorowitz) April 12, 2022

david lynch is the kinda guy who says "film" and "television" and ne'er the twain shall meet so

doesn't seem like he is dissembling. was really looking forward to something new

hopped back into rewatch of TP The Return last night, episode 5, so so so good

I've been watching arguments about this tweet for a while now, so you should see it.

instructive comparison on "dark suburbia" might be david lynch vs thomas pynchon: for lynch the dark stuff is all incursions from some supernatural and/or criminal outside, for pynchon suburbs are basically little nazi factories

— joolsd (@joolsd) April 15, 2022

everyone is replying “this is a misreading of lynch” and they’re all right

I was indifferent at first but it's been going for a while now so I'm gonna back it.

I know a ceiling fan that begs to differ

suburbs in the return a blasted wasteland full of isolated people in addicted trances an inch from gun violence iirc

what he's sentimental about is "small towns", but still the rot is inside. (the only transmission project blue book ever receives is from the woods.) and the traditional reverse of the reactionary coin-- the corrupt city-- doesn't really appear either, not even in eraserhead (tho maybe on giedi prime): his vision of j. edgars from philadelphia is of knight-errants. (but still the rot is inside.)

(well of course there's hollywood lol. he likes it tho.)

Lol

yeah yeah suburban concupiscence allows the extra dimensional demons to enter your brain and force you to commit atrocities https://t.co/mYSV0eN2Ih

— joolsd (@joolsd) April 17, 2022