Waaay back upthread, but bars in my college town had "Timewarp Tuesday" nights that were all 80s music starting in 1994.
I seem to remember a (moderately tongue-in-cheek but still OTM) 1980s revival story in Select Magazine in... 1993? It's somewhere here but I can't find the issue.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
thinking about the popularity of sadboy bart among many younger digital natives, in the context of whatever the 90s means to these people (many of whom weren't born yet). it's not revivalism since it mixes it up with 00s emo and 10s cloudrap signifiers and post-vapor nostalgia filters which mine pathos from wanting to go back and knowing you can't. it's "i hate myself and i want to die" as a post-post-ironic shitpost-turned-aesthetic, deeply felt and flippant and corny and knowing all at once. this stuff is *everywhere* and someone should do some kind of study of it (closest i found was a p4k article on s i m p s o n w a v e which gets at some of this but is only part of it)
https://fsa.zobj.net/crop.php?r=Qm6gD1sdY0tHzEdN26bXhb2G4-iQEMOCF6NAJREpQbbw7vYiYR5_506xu9kThJgY_WSA_tp2LEba1dKn03AXg4gk4ogSlPelMO_oTdg-vo9Cx8qeF6iXJiX_9Yx5KFA8CqU_bCIUm5-Io-uq
― Left, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
Yeah, a lot of my friends in their 20s have been in bands that sound kinda like Swervedriver, I've been to dayglo parties where they play stuff like 'Castles in the Sky' and 'King of my Castle' (I'm sure there's another '90s house song I'm trying to think of here but my mind is only giving me tracks about castles). I don't really feel like there *hasn't* been a '90s revival.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
I threw an 80s party in 1990!
(But of course as has been mentioned above, "80s" has come to mean just one segment of the 80s -- somebody earlier in thread said 1984-87 but I'd say 81-86? Like, "Walk Like an Egyptian" yes, "Hungry Eyes" no.)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Which is why bringing them up as evidence of 90's revival didn't scan for me, don't really see why that's so confounding?
Yeah, sorry, confusion over wording, is all. When you said "I don't think ppl think of Hip-Hop or R&B as particularly 90's genres" I read that as "Hip-hop and R&B weren't particularly big in the 90s", which isn't what you meant.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
As for 90s nostalgia, I would have said that the fading of Nirvana has come as a huge surprise to me. As a college kid it just seemed clear they were going be like the Beatles, a permanent feature of the way we talked about culture. People upthread saying they see kids wearing Nirvana stuff, so I guess so? But my experience has been just the opposite, that talk about Nirvana has utterly vanished. My kids (teens) certainly don't know who they are or know any of their songs, and they know plenty of old stuff.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
???
― Left, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
They're certainly the last band to make it into the "rock canon", for what that's worth.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
kurt is lennonified at this point. plenty of kids my age didn't know beatles songs but plenty worshipped them, lots of let it be shirts, etc
nirvana were tained for a while for some by "not being as good as [less successful indie band]" and by the wave of post-grunge and nu-metal that cited them but no one cares about the former now and a loads of kids who grew up on the latter still worship nirvana/kurt and the whole mythology. i don't think many rock stars have been referenced more in rap
― Left, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
*tainted
My 9 year-old heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on the radio when we were driving somewhere, pronounced it his new favorite song, has added about seven of their songs to his rolling Spotify playlist and insisted on us buying him a T-shirt last time we were at Target, so, anecdotally at least, I don't think they are going anywhere.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
At what age are you planning to have the "Scratch Acid were better" talk
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
Think 12 maybe?
His tastes are all over the place, and while I play music around the house constantly, I don't really try to force anything on him and see what sticks. His favorite artists in the last few years have been Marshmello, Imagine Dragons, Kiss (which, fair play, I though Kiss was the bee's knees when I was 9 too), Metallica and, now, Nirvana.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
Millennials are old enough to have their own The Big Chill now but I haven't seen such a thing, nor would I want to
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
What was Gen X’s Big Chill?
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
xpost - Bunch of people dancing around to "House of Jealous Lovers" while they wait for Doordash to show up?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
I think we were so repulsed by the original Big Chill that we never wanted to have our own
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
What is the Gen-X Big Chill?
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
Oh, oops.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
Ha, was just reading the other day about a 2014 film with Jason Ritter, Aubrey Plaza and Max Greenfield called About Alex that was apparently called Big Chill 2.0 in a lot of reviews. Can't say I've seen it to confirm.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
In the UK, maybe it was ITV’s Cold Feet.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
I am afraid the Gen-X The Big Chill might be Knocked Up.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
I rewatched The Big Chill recently and noted that the 30-somethings in it were jumping around to vintage records that were mainly 15-20 yrs old at that point, so it would be very much like 30-somethings of today putting on "Toxic" and going nuts. But the film is really about loss of idealism, so you have to have had idealism to begin with.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
The Big Chillax
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
The Gen X Big Chill was Greenberg, maybe?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
I don't even know what anybody's Big Chill is. What is this thing that is purportedly a behemoth of culture that everything should be measured against?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
Ha ha, you're right - it is odd. I'm all about Peter's Friends.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
Anyway, coming back to my earlier point about people stopping thinking in terms of decades once they're not readily nameable, here's the ngram of relative usage of the word decade
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=decade&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true
https://i.imgur.com/489GLOh.png
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
Wait, it was Garden State, wasn't it?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
I am afraid the Gen-X The Big Chill might be Knocked Up
yeah I feel the Gen-X version would have to be a piss-take of some kind perhaps starring Will Ferrell, but it's too late for one now
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link
Reality Bites
― BrianB, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
I haven't seen either, but I think the protagonists of Garden State and Reality Bites were too recently out of college. The Big Chill was about 30-somethings.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
That's true, I was just thinking more about the reliance on the soundtrack and how that had more of a cultural impact than the film itself.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
If anyone needs help in achieving the look, here's a guide:
https://www.glamour.com/story/how-to-dress-90s
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
So that chart upthread would indicate that generalizing about how people of previous eras contextualized decades is itself a stereotypically '80s/'90s thing to do
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
― BrianB, Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:20 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This and Singles were my first two thoughts, but the characters in those are really post-college 20-somethings, not 30-somethings starting to wrestle with middle age.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
Those are Gen-X St. Elmo's Fire's not The Big Chill's
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
St. Elmo's Fire is kind of more Gen X or extreeeeemely late boomer. There's sort of an internal division within Gen X imo, like people who were out of college by the end of the 80s vs people in college in the early/mid 90s
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
the last 20 or so posts are incomprehensible
― Left, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
There's definitely a small unnamed generation between boomers and Gen X... like people born in the early Sixties can't qualify as boomers but are a little early to fit in as officially Gen X.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
Nah, they're boomers.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
Though some disagree:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
That’s like the Judd Nelson cohort. Recall that in the same year (1985) he played a 17-year-old in The Breakfast Club and a college graduate in St. Elmo’s Fire
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link
I decree it is Generation Judd
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
Judge Reinhold is only two years older than Judd Nelson
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
Generation Kamala
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
Vince Neil was born in '61, he's right in there as well. No one can claim he's a boomer.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
Let's ask a Gen Zer.
ILX Gen Zers, come out, come out wherever you are.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link
forget the boomers, let's ask the Loomers
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
What are the big 90s songs that have been used in national commercials? Genuine question, I watch few commercials these days.
AD WARS - tag team's "whoomp there it is" vs. pet shop boys' "opportunities"
can't wait for 00s revivalism, which leads to sequels to Hitch, You, Me, and Dupree, and everybody forms a garage rock band
Evan Su55er and Van R0bicheaux's 2016 script for Wedding Crashers 2 has been revived to potentially shoot in Puerto Rico in August
If you were born in 85, Daniel, it's worth saying that 80s nostalgia started even longer ago than you might think – I remember a student disco night called Club Tropicana in 1992.
There was a three-story collared-shirt nightclub in downtown Sydney called Club Retro playing 80s music by 1992
Linda Lindas linkhttps://variety-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/variety.com/2021/music/news/linda-lindas-racist-sexist-boy-lapl-1234978285/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16232459270401&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2021%2Fmusic%2Fnews%2Flinda-lindas-racist-sexist-boy-lapl-1234978285%2F
hey I can think of one aspect of the 90s that should be revived
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link