At my level meant to say
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 June 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link
And just now learned an interesting expression from Duo, 上の空, which means absent-minded.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 June 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
a bit like head in the clouds, above the sky?I did wanikani for a bit a few years ago and have started again, up to level 4 and am surprised how much I can rememberI just like the way kanji look and the words that happen when you put two or more together, fire + mountain = volcano etc
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 7 June 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link
Yes, like that.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 June 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link
Really don't know how Ed kept up that pace for a year.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 June 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
It kind of took over. I had to build it into my day. I wouldn’t recommend it, not least because towards the end of that period all other Japanese study went by the board.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
I can tell. I am feeling that now at Level 7. I keep promising myself that I am only keeping to the seven day cycle for now to learn how that works but trying to figure out if I should shoot for a ten day cycle or a two week cycle.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link
Just took advantage of a tip that I could add fonts
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link
And want to remark on the tiny helpful fact that Tsurukame lets you know if you should be typing in an on or kun reading for the kanji.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
Drives me crazy when things are very similar in pronunciation like 私立 and 自立
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 June 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Although I guess that’s the whole point
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 June 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link
Almost done with level nine. Wonder if I should pause at ten before going on to eleven to review those first ten Pleasant levels.
― Rich Valley Girl, Poor Valley Girl (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 June 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link
Visually Similar Kanji is usually pretty far off though
― Rich Valley Girl, Poor Valley Girl (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 June 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link
Did anyone buy the 4,500 sentences?
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 July 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
The what now?
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
https://store.tofugu.com/shop/4500-japanese-sentences
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link
hate when i finish a level on wanikani and suddenly there's like 100+ new lessons, all that purple to grind through before you get to the blues and pinks is kinda dispiriting
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 3 July 2021 10:03 (two years ago) link
Are you still doing? I thought maybe you took a break.You don’t have to do the purple right away. You can start with the blue and pink and do the purple at your leisure. That’s what I do, that’s what somebody else told me they do, I think.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link
nah still working away at it and got to level 6 yesterdayi'm doing it thru the website and can't see a way to pick and choose which lessons to do? teach me your ways
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 3 July 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link
Use the tsurukame app, highly configurable
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link
Maybe the recommended usage is to finish all the vocabulary first before proceeding but I dunno seems like I am going to spend forever on the vocabulary anyway so…
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link
Anyway, I kept up the ever more brutal pace of leveling up every seven days until this week, when it finally gave way, which is fine I guess. I really don’t know how Ed kept up the pace for so long, although maybe I do know and I also know why he had to eventually take a very long break or two.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
yeh I'm not capable of doing that. going at my own pacethat app seems to ios only, boooo
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
Flaming Durtles?
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
Kakumei?
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Now looking for some easy readers so I can use this stuff.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
Try Satori Reader, there’s quite a lot of stuff you can read without paying for. It also integrates with Wanikani so it will only show Furigana for stuff you don’t know.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 3 July 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link
Thanks! Will check that out. Already started looking at ManabiReader again, along with White Rabbit Press.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 July 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link
Okay, the White Rabbit Level 2 stories are at the right level.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 July 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
How do you find stuff to read in Satori? I didn’t dig that part of the interface
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
The dictionary app simply called Japanese has a color tagging feature that I am finding really useful at the moment.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
Okay, so just leveled up to twelve. I will know a lot if this thing doesn't pull me under.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link
It takes me at least a couple of days to internal the weird readings and nuances of meaning of the vocab which us why at this point I always start the radicals and kanji first in the vain pursuit of the next level up.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link
Always feels kind relaxing being in the eye of the hurricane when that two day pause comes before the radicals and (most or some of the) first batch of kanji go to Guru.
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
Eye of the typhoon, I should say
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
Is there some rule of thumb about a/e vowel sounds and transitive/intransitive or am I just imagining
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
I seem to see a lot of pairs where the e vowel is transitive, to act upon, and the a vowel is intransitive, to be acted upon.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
Unless I’ve got that backwards. Anyway, just found my copy of this bookhttps://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9784872179408-us.jpgflipping through which demonstrates that the Kanji reading is much improved.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 July 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
Just found this
This is an intransitive verb, meaning it happens on its own. The かる ending is a hint, because verbs with かる as okurigana (kana added to the kanji) are usually intransitive.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
That’s under 受かる
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
My main problem with learning Japanese grammar is that I have no idea what English grammar is or how it works. It's like I have to learn a third language to learn the second. Doesn't help that my brain seems to immediately shut off when I read things like "intransitive verb".
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 24 July 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link
I wouldn’t worry too much about not knowing English grammar or grammar terms, they map poorly in any case.
I recommend the Cure Dolly videos on YouTube, once you get past the odd 3D avatar and squeaky voice there’s some great teaching on how Japanese works.
Here’s the one on Jidoushi and Tadoushi. Be wary of trying to look for patters is which is which, there are always exceptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELk1dqaEmyk
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 24 July 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
Ed is correct as usual. Japanese grammar is completely unrelated to English grammar, unlike Indo-European languages, in particular close relatives such as Germanic and Romance languages.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link
So I have all five fonts installed in Tsurukame. Knew that if I long pressed it would show the standard font but just realized I can swipe left and right to iterate through others.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 July 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link
When I went through (most of) the reverse Duolingo tree I actually came across many Japanese terms for English grammar. Of course in the lessons there were multiple ways in Japanese to convey various things that were represented in the English tenses.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 July 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Did the bare minimum on Wanikani yesterday and today started with a stack of close to three hundred reviews. Dang!
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link
Almost dug myself out. Also just realized that 例えば is tatoeba!
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 August 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
こんにちは! every year or so i decide that i'm going to learn japanese and then get burnt out after a few months. each time i learn a little bit more and i think i'm on track to reaching my goal in about 20 years.
i'm feeling good about the strategy this time which is to focus on reading. my ultimate goal is to be able to play japanese video games (lol) so i'm thinking that i don't need to get too hung up on memorizing the various kanji readings. some various thoughts:
* the kanji learner's dictionary is a fucking game changer. what used to take 20 minutes to find an unfamiliar kanji now can take as little as 5 seconds with the SKIP indexing.* the dictionary of basic japanese grammar is a good reference for the most part, but i can't for the life of my find super basic shit like what exactly the ます form is despite it being used in all the entries. i'm thinking i'm going to need to supplement it with a more general textbook... probably genki?* this time i'm getting as much japanese in front of my eyes as i can and let the pattern recognition neural pathways form. so far this involves playing japanese games and just reading the text to myself whether or not i understand what it's saying. i'm starting to notice patterns and phrases already so i think it's working pretty well!* it was a real eye opener for me when i realized that text with kanji is easier to read. i was trying to play dragon quest v but it's text is mostly hiragana. really frustrating to not know what something says, only to look it up and realize that it's one of the 5 kanji you actually CAN recognize but just written in hiragana.
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Saturday, 7 August 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
I have and like the first edition of the Kanji Learner’s Dictionary but I have to say I hardly ever use the SKIP method, although I see that it could be useful.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 August 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link