Bret Easton Ellis

Maybe this gets explained later in the novel, but it's bothering me now. I find it hard to go further with such discrepancies.

I like BEE. HE is nice man. I not read any of his book tho cos I not like reedin. Troo.

I ssen the flim where the man in the suit kut up the ladees tho

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Only read American Psycho which is amazing and made me feel superior to just about everyone I know who had read it who didn't get it or didn't understand what was happening and assumed it was meant to be taken as literal narration.

I love the conversation where Bateman is seems to be saying all the vile things flitting through his head but his female companion is just responding as if he's saying small talk (which obviously he is in objective reality).

And the record reviews are brilliant. Very well utilised in the film - though I heard there's an exploitation sequel which again assumes its all real.

I'm really enjoying The Informers. It's great. I just love the atmosphere.

Here's me with my pal Bret

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p721520122-3.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB08qDd1PVw&feature=player_embedded#!

Teaming up with Paul Schrader.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bret-easton-ellis-american-psycho-sequel-2012-3?op=1

its like dude is making a mockery of himself. some of those are genuinely funny, tho. any sequel sounds couldn't go beyond the realm of fan-fic, even if by the author himself. i'm just not seeing how much "newness" we can derive from p. bateman... rather ellis set up all this current pop-culture homages in some other affordance, or with new characters. plus bateman would be, what.. in his 50s? we've done this shit already, gordon geccko/shia lebouf

after the Less than Zero sequel, this is the lit equivalent of all these "classic album" shows

brett easton ellis is really clever with what he does. In fact is he like one of the best American Writer's or what? I thought American pycho and Glamorama were his best books, some of the best one's out there in tghis short of stile. He writes so well, his character's come alive. There not just about violence, Easton Ellis get's some real messages across. EG Money versus reputation, and vice versa. I thought Less than Zero was sort of shit, just boring but written in a fun style, the only thing that kept me reading it. You appreciate it more when you read his later stuff. Rules of attraction is pretty much the same, just bigger and maybe more to it, story line that is. Oh yea and Don Dalillo rules, he's like one of America's greatest writer's as well, along with Pychon, thou his stuff is just totally a head fuck or what? It's so crazy it leaves you feeling punch drunk, recommmended. I want to get my hand's on David Foster Wallace cause I hear he's got some good stuff. Oh yea and Chuck paliniuk is a fucking great writer as well, read all his stuff, loved all his stuff. just read it for crying out loud, this is what it's all about. If you don't like the way Brett easton ellis writes that's okay but once you get it you got it and I loved it. Can't wate for the next book, I'll be camping out for it. See ya
― Tony, Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:00 AM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

brett easton ellis is really clever with what he does. In fact is he like one of the best American Writer's or what? I thought American pycho and Glamorama were his best books, some of the best one's out there in tghis short of stile. He writes so well, his character's come alive. There not just about violence, Easton Ellis get's some real messages across. EG Money versus reputation, and vice versa. I thought Less than Zero was sort of shit, just boring but written in a fun style, the only thing that kept me reading it. You appreciate it more when you read his later stuff. Rules of attraction is pretty much the same, just bigger and maybe more to it, story line that is. Oh yea and Don Dalillo rules, he's like one of America's greatest writer's as well, along with Pychon, thou his stuff is just totally a head fuck or what? It's so crazy it leaves you feeling punch drunk, recommmended. I want to get my hand's on David Foster Wallace cause I hear he's got some good stuff. Oh yea and Chuck paliniuk is a fucking great writer as well, read all his stuff, loved all his stuff. just read it for crying out loud, this is what it's all about. If you don't like the way Brett easton ellis writes that's okay but once you get it you got it and I loved it. Can't wate for the next book, I'll be camping out for it. See ya
― Tony, Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:00 AM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

what the hell, I didn't post that twice

See ya.

read Less Than Zero and hated its guts, liked American Psycho quite a bit but absolutely couldn't stomach the first ~5 pages of Glamorama that I read...he's a boring starfucker with intellectual insecurity issues, but with cool aesthetics. idk...i keep up with his twitter. really wish he got the gig for the 50 shades of gray movie.

I wish he'd write a book length treatise on empire/post empire since he's clearly done with novels for now

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Burrrrn

fuck this doucherocket who writes shitty books

You know, they called Jesus a doucherocket too.

But Jesus didn't write shitty books or send assy tweets AFAIK.

Jesus probably preferred Point Break to Hurt Locker.

Jesus OTM if so

I wonder if Jesus would have even bothered reading Glamorama.

Jesus is still wondering why they took the vampires out of the movie version of informers.

I think Jesus is kidding himself by thinking of that film as some kind of missed opportunity. He's basically alone in his enthusiasm for the book and I think he's self-conscious about it.

Jesus just wants to see vampires terrorize LA because his betamax copy of lost boys is worn out and JHWH won't pay for decent enough broadband to torrent anything.

JHWH experiences time differently from us. He doesn't realize how essential high speed internet is now.

JHWH definitely on the Empire side of Empire/post-Empire.

He just doesn't get that Charlie Sheen doesn't want to be his goddamn prodigal son.

https://twitter.com/BretEastonEllis/status/277295977113739264

^B.E.E., like Jesus, letting us know that he is one of us after all.

Anybody see The Canyons?

theres a thread my man

Paul Schrader's THE CANYONS, starring Lindsay Lohan and some porn star

has anybody listened to his podcast yet?

yes - I had to turn it off after 5 mins, i'm just not used to hearing an "interviewer" shoe in his own cliched views in the discussion

yeah there is some serious ponitificating going on in all the interviews. they have all been particularly annoying so far tbh.

WRONG

They have all been pretty great.

the fred armisen/carrie brownstein episode was amazing so icy

um u do know they're all fred/carrie episodes?

oh shit thought this was the portlandia thread!

Haha!

I think BEE didn't know how reticent an interviewee Armisen is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1tX54iDJLY

lol it's funny actually i think armisen did it in character and brickwalled BEE after the overbearing intro on gender and how carrie brownstein was the first woman on the podcast

got that feeling listening to it the first time, that he had completely offended them and was struggling to get by the whole hour, and he did a whole intro about how armisen looked 'disgusted' during the taping but was perfectly nice and normal before and after… great stuff

I have... thoughts.

I read the whole thing, which was excruciating. Here's what I posted on a friend's FB thread:

"I’m a fan of his, with reservations post-2013. (He isn’t making it easy.) As I said on someone else’s share of this interview, I’m actually HAPPY this interview happened - because it might help inspire Ellis to shut the fuck up about politics, which he’s admittedly misinformed about (not just here, but on his podcast and social media) and stick to what actually makes him INTERESTING and of value for many of us who follow him - which gets drowned out by the political/cultural stuff, which grabs headlines and has transformed him into an all-around punching bag - his aesthetic perspectives on film and literature."

In the next week or two I'll have a review of White out in the world, which I'll link here when it's up.

my impression is that his fiction, and its portrayal of people who are often decadent and at best morally ambivalent, reflects his actual view of human nature. the validation of his work being successful has made him think that everyone's like one of his characters and doesn't get why claiming real life figures and their behavior falls within acceptable boundaries brings outrage

he's not exactly a writer of stories where characters come to epiphanies about their own behavior although he's due a few of his own

ray is otm, so much of BEE's podcast is old man yelling at cloud / millennial boyfriend. but i enjoy his film commentary, even if i disagree with him most of the time.

We could totally do without him by now, couldn't we?

We could totally do without him by now, couldn't we?

Pretty much, yeah, and I'm someone who loved Less Than Zero, American Psycho and Glamorama (the latter in particular; I've read it four or five times).

Lunar Park is the one... his most sincere & moving prose

I tried Lunar Park but couldn't make it to the end.

he's doing this to get his name in the cycle imo. if this interview goes well, who reads it? almost no-one. instead...

does he express the same dipshitted thought-free views on his podcast for hours every week and in other interviews and in his writing as part of the same long game?

yes

his whole career has been exactly like this

any decade now, he's going to write something that isn't surface-level vapid in its understanding of humans and money, and we'll all be wowed because of his careful cultivation of alternate expectations over the rest of his output

Having heard many of his podcasts I'm always amused that his opening salvo about whatever he saw at ArcLight that week or some snowflake grievance is done with his guest waiting quietly there with him. He'll go in for 10 minutes before introducing them and they have to jump in wherever he is.

10? more like 45

it is a good bit

any decade now, he's going to write something that isn't surface-level vapid in its understanding of humans and money, and we'll all be wowed because of his careful cultivation of alternate expectations over the rest of his output

ok I just read the interview... wow 🥵

You came to the defense of Roseanne Barr, saying that she denied, after tweeting racist stuff about Valerie Jarrett, knowing Valerie Jarrett was black.

Did she say that? That she didn’t know she was black?

You say it in the book.

Yeah, right, I quoted her.

Thanks so much for talking.

It’s interesting to have that back-and-forth pull in an interview. The only problem, however, is that I am not that political, and so, when we have this conversation, and you confront me with certain things like this, I really am, I have to say, at a loss.

what a choad

he’s SO imperious like some regent giving audience to a scribe which is hilarious bc almost no-one gives a shit about him anymore

Seems like the people posting here give a shit about him

I kind of hate that they used that dewy, youthful glamourshot of him in that interview (note: I've never given a fuck about him besides that checkmark on gay men who are terrible misogynists.).

the shtick of saying wrong or irritating things in conversation to get attention, only to reveal you don't remember any particular conversation because you had no real emotional investment in one thing

doing so in print and then shrugging it off as "oh, I guess I wrote that, whatever" to further irritate an interviewer and the audience makes me think he's subconsciously going for next-level jackanapes status

The entire comes off as him having had many decades of therapy but ultimately he just doesn't care because it doesn't affect him personally (except for not being able to fuck his millennial boyfriend in peace). Please buy his book.

otm, that disaffected stance of "I don't give a shit about any of this but it's the only thing anyone around me will talk about. I'll just be contrary so they pay attention to me."

As I posted upthread he was reflective when talking about this when I saw him a decade ago, but since then he’s obviously gone full culture war and decided that he was the wronged party and that he’s never, ever getting over it.

I think I am an absurdist. I think politics are ridiculous.

Maybe don’t write a book about it. Would that be the solution?

[I think the problem is that I don’t necessarily see this as interesting as fiction.

Yeah, I could tell.

lmao

i love isaac chotiner's interviews, he's remarkably good at letting people hang themselves

I haven't been able to track down who they're talking about, but some people on twitter have mentioned that Bret's partner is a boring-ass centrist democrat.

He seems to be a Biden fan, so yes.

Does Biden have a lot of millennial support? Wouldn’t have thought so.

Does Biden have a lot of millennial support? Wouldn’t have thought so.

he's def the choice of boring-ass centrist democrats

he watches Maddow and his name is Todd

otm, that disaffected stance of "I don't give a shit about any of this but it's the only thing anyone around me will talk about. I'll just be contrary so they pay attention to me."

This. He tweaks the left because they are the only ones who know who he is and might give a shit. Trump voters likely don’t give a shit about him; can’t rebel if no one knows who you are.

remember back when ivanka trump was explaining that she wanted a man like patrick bateman

sometimes ponder whether she thinks she got that

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/discovery-todd-michael-schultz

ok, if that's Todd's actual twitter account I found...

...well, I don't really use twitter to be an intellectual, but jesus christ

Him tweeting “come over at do bring coke now” at like 5 in the morning that one time was pretty good tbh

Gloriously scathing review from Anna Leszkiewicz at the graun.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/24/white-by-bret-easton-ellis-review-sound-fury-and-insignificance

Best review yet in nailing how Ellis acts like the detached observer when he's the irrational, outraged one. Funny how David Mamet has done something similar, going from being the guy who was all about the mechanics and math of playwriting to becoming the didactic, moralizing writer he always bemoaned in essays and interviews

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My two cents.

https://bookandfilmglobe.com/nonfiction/book-review-bret-easton-ellis-white/