Trans/Genderqueer/Agender/Questioning Thread

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<3<3

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 18:22 (five years ago)

:-D It's all good!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:12 (five years ago)

Love and support to you!

it's also confusing and ambiguous knowledge to try to hold onto

I feel this, but holding space for the confusing and ambiguous can be important in itself. I hope the sadness is fleeting <3

emil.y, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:15 (five years ago)

ILX will trans ALL the genders. ALL of us. It happened to me, it happened to Brad, it will happen to Ned. All of us.

But, seriously, congratulations on the discovery. Good luck with finding your authentic self, whatever it will be.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:53 (five years ago)

<3 <3 <3 much <3 and support!!!

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:29 (five years ago)

Hard not to just echo what others have already expressed, but so be it... <3 Brad!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:31 (five years ago)

<3 thanks y'all

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:30 (five years ago)

just saw this thread update and teared up

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:35 (five years ago)

it's one thing to know it in yourself, it's another thing to put it out into the world and make it real, and taking that step is a huge and wonderful deal. <3 you Brad

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 22:04 (five years ago)

Happy for you, Brad! Hope the sadness goes away

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 23:32 (five years ago)

Brad, you rule. Cheers to you.

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 23:39 (five years ago)

Congrats Brad

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 23:49 (five years ago)

sweet Brad this is a glorious update. thanks for sharing here <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 23:56 (five years ago)

infinite heart emojis

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 3 June 2021 01:22 (five years ago)

all the best to you Brad ♥️

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2021 01:27 (five years ago)

go get it Brad! pronoun preference changed?

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 June 2021 01:36 (five years ago)

<3 Brad, I'll toast you when those CabVolt DVDs arrive

sleeve, Thursday, 3 June 2021 01:38 (five years ago)

Brad, you are one of my favorite ilx posters. Best to you on this journey and hope you are feeling less sad soon.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:26 (five years ago)

Cheers, Brad!

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:37 (five years ago)

Last night my eldest child (14, AFAB, nonbinary, pan-identifying) told me I have "bi wife energy."

Um... thanks?

portmanteaujam (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:51 (five years ago)

OH and best wishes to Brad!

portmanteaujam (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:52 (five years ago)

Last night my eldest child (14, AFAB, nonbinary, pan-identifying) told me I have "bi wife energy."

this kid rocks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:22 (five years ago)

Brad <3

Eschew things thirty two times before swallowing them (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:28 (five years ago)

Much love and luck to you, Brad!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:33 (five years ago)

It’s a very scary but extremely worthwhile experience, ime, welcome to it B! I started transitioning about 4 and a half years ago, feel free to ilxmail me if you want to talk to someone who’s been there.

nicole, Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:35 (five years ago)

much love to you Brad! I'm glad you're a part of this board!

eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:35 (five years ago)

❤️ and good vibes to you, Brad.

In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:39 (five years ago)

This thread is the just amazing. All the very best to you Brad.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:55 (five years ago)

<3 BRAD!!

what's fgti up to these days? nothing. she's fake (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:39 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUb7QY1T4Wk

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:10 (five years ago)

brad, wishing the best for you and lots of support.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:14 (five years ago)

<3 Brad, bon courage!

in orbit: thank you for that useful post

rob, Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:26 (five years ago)

<3 Brad <3

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:15 (five years ago)

nothing but good wishes for you here

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:40 (five years ago)

Congrats, Brad! Excited for u.

That video is so cute and now stuck in my head.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 3 June 2021 23:19 (five years ago)

Yay Brad xx :)

paolo, Friday, 4 June 2021 08:47 (five years ago)

Petition to remove You Know Who from his last remaining platform..

https://www.change.org/p/substack-inc-substack-take-corporate-sociable-responsibility-remove-graham-linehan-from-the-platform

piscesx, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:03 (four years ago)

he's still got his youtube chit-chats with gay bigot and question lady, but is so bad at the form that he's probably not that much of a menace there

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:18 (four years ago)

I can think of one kind of platform I’d like to see him on

Left, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:20 (four years ago)

brad <3

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 09:11 (four years ago)

one month passes...

Well, that trans FB group I'm helping admin is opening up at 12 noon EST today. Come by if you can, I'd love to see some fellow ILXors there.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mytranshomies/?ref=share&exp=c41f

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 26 July 2021 12:51 (four years ago)

The group founder has just changed the group URL.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mytransfriends/?ref=share&exp=c41f

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

six months pass...

hello all. I should know better than to go to the internet for advice but thought I'd start here since we're mostly anonymous. yesterday our almost 16 year old announced to my wife and I that they were trans. This came utterly out of the blue; thee is nothing feminine about this child, and they have never shown any real interest in this topic to us. I'm trying to be sensitive and remember pronouns here but forgive me if I slip up. Our kid HAS been depressed, rather significantly this year, but so have we and the pandemic has put a pall on everything (also I just got fired from my job and generally everything feels like shit). Our kid said it 'doesn't really change anything' and to the extend they were willing to discuss it, they wanted to be called she/they, and (this is the hardest part for my wife and I) be called Ivy.

Not sure what the path forward here is but my wife is having a very hard time; I probably am too but I'm so emotionally numb with so much other shit going on (looking for work, my mother is dying of cancer) that it really hasn't sunk in. I just want our kid to be happy. I think we need to find a family therapist. One thing to note also is that our kid has shown sudden interests in lots of things and then dropped it a few months later. We live in Berkeley so obviously trans support is high but trans talk is also everywhere, so I'm wondering if depression has played a part in this and our kid is just looking for a better identity. Any helpful discussion welcome. I've always been a strong ally for trans people, have trans friends, know people with trans kids (but those kids were trans from like, age 2)...but this is somehow more difficult to deal with because it makes us second guess every assumption we had.

akm, Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:27 (four years ago)

akm, we are going through a similar situation here and I will say that I got some pretty good advice here when we were starting to process it.

I think it is possible to be both supportive (in a non-dismissive way) while also accepting that the situation may be fluid.

No one will ever be able to know whether pandemic stuff - and the general suckitude of pretty much everything - is obscuring the picture. But ultimately it doesn't matter, because when it comes too kids? My mantra is: "It's the love, stupid."

May pm you on the more sensitive details, but do wish to broadcast good wishes for your family.

imam and apple pie (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:43 (four years ago)

thanks YMP, I'd welcome a dm.

akm, Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:46 (four years ago)

One thing I always think when people think a kid might be "going through a phase that they'll grow out of" is does that matter?

You can choose to show your child that you'll love and support them while they explore their identity, or you can choose to show your child that you will judge them and claim authority over them. That's the case whether this is a permanent change or not.

Also, not every trans journey is as straightforward as "I always knew". Sometimes you just know something is wrong, but not what that something is. If there's nothing outwardly feminine about your child, they may have been compensating for feeling feminine internally by acting/dressing masculine - but not every trans woman is super feminine, and not every trans man is super masculine! Basically, don't take lack of previous indicators as a sign to think this is a passing whim. Trust your kid, and if they change their mind then still trust them.

I genuinely wish you the best of luck - therapy is definitely worth doing, but try not to frame seeking therapy as a way to solve a problem that your child has caused.

emil.y, Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:54 (four years ago)

(The above post is not meant to sound accusatory, btw, and I hope it doesn't come across that way)

emil.y, Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:57 (four years ago)

whatever you do, please do not frame this as "maybe this is a manifestation of depression," especially in front of them. The last thing you want in this situation is for them to feel you do not take them seriously or do not respect them, and that will shut down any dialogue they want to have with you further.

teenage masculinity can be so stifling and overbearing for anyone who doesn't fit in the characteristics expected of them from pressures in everyday life. I hated the idea that I had to be into football and girls, and avoid stuff that wasn't masculine. Gender is a spectrum, not a binary, and it can be hard to place yourself upon it, so my advice would be to let them figure it out in an open, no-pressure way.

What is it that worries you about this, is the question to ask yourself. Are you worried their life will be more difficult? You can make it easier for them by being compassionate and supportive. Are you worried about grieving for the person they've always been? They were always going to grow up, change, and become their own person anyway - this is a heightened version of that, maybe trickier to navigate but it doesn't revoke the love you feel for them. Are you worried how your broader friends and family will react? Leave it to them - other people's emotions are not yours to manage.

There are far worse things that could happen to your family than your kid being truthful about wanting to live the most authentic version of their life.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:00 (four years ago)

These are wonderful comments, thank you all

akm, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:02 (four years ago)

I consider myself a homosexual cis man. But it wasn't always so clear-cut for me. In my teens I struggled because I didn't fit in with the way I was expected to perform gender. My voice is high and I talk with my hands - I'm really camp, naturally. Twenty years ago there wasn't the trans visibility there is today and I think had there been, I might have gone through "a phrase." To be honest I doubt I would have ever gotten beyond "hmm, maybe he/his pronounds aren't quite right for me" but it would have reflected how I felt about my identity then, and who can say they are the same person they were twenty years ago, really?

boxedjoy, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:09 (four years ago)


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