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I'd say that Mare was on par with season 1 of the Killing (the US version), and better than Season 2 which got bogged down in plot machinations; likewise, Broadchurch

the acting is really good

its well written and i think the best part of it is that it allows for humor & natural, human moments alongside the usual baked-in grimness, sadness, violence & trauma

also having an unlikeable female main character who is still sympathetic is a nice shift

its not new in terms of the genre or anything but if you are a fan of the genre you might enjoy it

or if you hate things that are popular maybe not lol its a crapshoot

I like Winslet, but being from NJ I have little interest in people from PA, so I'll get around to it...eventually.

Smart, I meant Jean Smart not "March".
I'm from Jersey as well so some of the little details were welcome. It was enjoyable but Winslet did carry the entire thing, I think.

I think we talked about Occupied in the non-English-language Netflix shows thread

VG rundown of it is otm.

Nothing new, but better done than the vast majority of predecessors.

If yer watching prestige crime dramas for originality idk i wouldnt

The "that SURELY is the ending now" gets tiresome but ive seen it much worse, think the finnish one last year (something wind?) was the worst id seen for that since....the original killing, maybe, which is to blame for pretty much everything rly

I think we talked about Occupied in the non-English-language Netflix shows thread

I didn't know that was a separate thread, gonna go find it!!

Cruella is good.

fake news

Back to the 1971 documentary on Apple+. If I could recommend folks to watch episode 5, "the revolution will not be televised." Music from Gil-Scott Heron, Aretha and Curtis Mayfield. Story about Angela Davis, George Jackson and Attica. Sad and harrowing and still all too real.

xxp I just learned it’s Emma Stone, which blew my mind grapes—all this time I thought it was Anne Hathaway! (I realize this is barely worth posting)

yes otm

the Attica stuff in particular …

xpost

I was expecting to be disappointed by the Mare finale but they saved some mystery till the end and it wasn't too out-of-nowhere and there were some other strong moments. Overall a good show for sure, and Winslet does a great job with the character. jarring to hear her in her regular accent in the BTS stuff that came after

I didnt mind Cruella - fun and the costume design was brill.

But they REEALLLYYY un-did her evilness with a weird backstory that made her an antihero which... this lady wants to kill dogs, wtf are you making me root for her for.

Enjoyed most of the "Mare" finale, despite a few hanging bits of half-assedness. For example, all sorts of shit involving Young Danzig (where was he that night?). Or the too-many-twists resolution of the murder itself. Or what Mare's daughter plans to do with her car once she drives cross country to Berkeley and realizes there's no way a freshman student is bringing a car to Berkeley.

plenty of students bring their cars to Berkeley!

Freshmen? Really? Where do they park? Why do they even need a car there?

Sometimes the Rockridge Zachary’s is slammed, and there’s no time to catch a bus to the one on Solano before it closes.

(In seriousness, parking is limited / cars discouraged AFAIK)

maybe she's going to drive there and then sell it

Maybe she’s driving to the Berkelee College of Music in Boston.

which would make sense, given what she does in the show, but I'm pretty sure it's the California one. I think early in the first episode they say how she's gotten some academic scholarship or was an exceptional student or something.

Berkeley is not Manhattan. You can get a University parking space. I dunno how much they cost but you can do it. You can also park on the street like 1/2 the city does.

but yes it was Berkeley and not Berkelee and also it made no sense because unless things have changed dramatically they do not let people in like that on the strength of some video project after admissions are closed.

anyway, I'm going to back to recommending Cruella on the basis of its soundtrack and the fact that 3/4 of it is some ultraqueer Project Runway rip with cute dogs

Well that was the worst thread derail of the year anyway

lol

year aint over yet

It's a little too comic book hyperactive, a la Edgar Wright, but "We are Lady Parts" (on Peacock) is a lot of fun so far.

I was just about to big up "We Are Lady Parts!" I wish there were more music but what there is pretty legit (at least to me), some great performances, some jokes that really slay, and a lot of awesome old ladies who DNGAF.

We watched Raya and the Last Dragon—the kids loved it, but I didn’t think it was very good (and I usually like Disney Animation films). Admittedly, I slept through a big chunk of it…

we bailed halfway through, i didnt enjoy it

but obv not necessarily “for” me

Just saw Raya in the theater. Loved it. NB I am of Southeast Asian heritage so a LOTTA appealing things for me.

Yeah the worldbuilding weaving different Asian cultures was great. I recognized a few expressions from Vietnamese and probably a lot went over my head, but I liked that it wasn't explained. Animation was great too. The biggest minus was the dialogue tried too hard to be funny and often fell flat. But the ending swept me up, so I liked it overall

That’s interesting – I thought the animation wasn’t up to their usual standard (human faces looked “off”).

And yeah, it’s a pet peeve of mine when characters in something like that use excessively hip/jokey/idiomatic modern language (and I know it’s a fantasy world, they can talk however the writers want…).

I'm so stoked for this idc idc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsah5yCzh-U

hm, they've turned gossip girl into HBO's new "teenagers like to fuck" show i see

As opposed to the CW’s teens like to fuck series? Will Chuck Bass be a rapist again?

yeah well what of it

afaik no one is returning, though it is supposed to be an actual sequel set in the same universe so I am not going to be surprised when Blake Lively shows up in the last episode or something

are they going to pretend that [redacted] wasn't Gossip Girl bc that was deeply embarrassing yet fitting

i think the idea is that it gets passed on

my wife and I recently rewatched GG and I was surprised at the lack of social media in it; facebook was already around when it launched but I don't remember it or any kind of fake TV version of it ever really coming up. I imagine that will be different this time.

Lupin S2 (or I guess part 2 of S1? I don't quite understand but who gives a shit) is out, it's great

Lupin part 1 was tons of fun. Glad they are back so quickly with part 2 and it’s great.

Anyone see Starstruck? Heard it was good.

Discussed on the British Comedy thread (iirc) a bit when it aired. General consensus is that Matafeo is charming enough to keep going, but the writing is so slight that the whole thing could float off in a breeze.

fair

Of her pandemic-era output, I’d probably rank Starstruck < Baby Done < Horndog < taking part in zoom spelling bees on youtube during NZ’s brief, efficient lockdown.