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Anybody else watch the 1971 documentary on Apple? Very good music/ cultural history. Lots of footage and voices from the time. 50 years ago - the past does look like another country even if many of the dividing lines still resonate today.

Yeah, I’m enjoying the shit out of 1971. They do a good job contextualizing the music socially/politically.

Loved the Bo Burnham special

i just started the 1971 doc, loving it so fat

far

lol

Is Mare of Easttown really any better than the last six or seven "depressed middle aged detective solves murder in small town, blowing up multiple secretive local relationships in the process" shows that I've watched on Netflix? It seems like the only differences are a) Kate Winslet and b) not in Swedish.

i didnt watch any of those but mare was solid, no major quibbles

Yeah it's no masterpiece but it's very watchable

Loved Winslet, liked March but felt much of the supporting cast, fine as they were, just seemed shipped in from a much lesser production. They just couldn’t hit those same heights as far as “Acting!”

jean smart was good, as usual.

saw the finale's twist coming a mile away and didn't particularly love that episode. very solid season of tv nevertheless. i feel confident in saying this because i hate almost everything at the moment.

Speaking of gloomy Nordic shit is there really no mention of Occupied in this entire thread? Third season (which I'm about halfway through) a bit of a letdown from the crisp first two, but totally satisfying mix of political intrigue and scenery and people speaking Norwegian

I poo-pooed those who guessed the ending because it sounded preposterous to me but I think they mostly pulled that off convincingly. The one outstanding thing to me is (spoilers follow)
I still don't buy that Erin, of her own accord, started an affair with her much older, unattractive cousin. And took a photo of herself in bed with him. And had the photo printed out. Unveiling the secret life of the teenage girl murder victim is a well trodden trope and most shows do a more convincing job of it.

I'd say that Mare was on par with season 1 of the Killing (the US version), and better than Season 2 which got bogged down in plot machinations; likewise, Broadchurch

the acting is really good

its well written and i think the best part of it is that it allows for humor & natural, human moments alongside the usual baked-in grimness, sadness, violence & trauma

also having an unlikeable female main character who is still sympathetic is a nice shift

its not new in terms of the genre or anything but if you are a fan of the genre you might enjoy it

or if you hate things that are popular maybe not lol its a crapshoot

I like Winslet, but being from NJ I have little interest in people from PA, so I'll get around to it...eventually.

Smart, I meant Jean Smart not "March".
I'm from Jersey as well so some of the little details were welcome. It was enjoyable but Winslet did carry the entire thing, I think.

I think we talked about Occupied in the non-English-language Netflix shows thread

VG rundown of it is otm.

Nothing new, but better done than the vast majority of predecessors.

If yer watching prestige crime dramas for originality idk i wouldnt

The "that SURELY is the ending now" gets tiresome but ive seen it much worse, think the finnish one last year (something wind?) was the worst id seen for that since....the original killing, maybe, which is to blame for pretty much everything rly

I think we talked about Occupied in the non-English-language Netflix shows thread

I didn't know that was a separate thread, gonna go find it!!

Cruella is good.

fake news

Back to the 1971 documentary on Apple+. If I could recommend folks to watch episode 5, "the revolution will not be televised." Music from Gil-Scott Heron, Aretha and Curtis Mayfield. Story about Angela Davis, George Jackson and Attica. Sad and harrowing and still all too real.

xxp I just learned it’s Emma Stone, which blew my mind grapes—all this time I thought it was Anne Hathaway! (I realize this is barely worth posting)

yes otm

the Attica stuff in particular …

xpost

I was expecting to be disappointed by the Mare finale but they saved some mystery till the end and it wasn't too out-of-nowhere and there were some other strong moments. Overall a good show for sure, and Winslet does a great job with the character. jarring to hear her in her regular accent in the BTS stuff that came after

I didnt mind Cruella - fun and the costume design was brill.

But they REEALLLYYY un-did her evilness with a weird backstory that made her an antihero which... this lady wants to kill dogs, wtf are you making me root for her for.

Enjoyed most of the "Mare" finale, despite a few hanging bits of half-assedness. For example, all sorts of shit involving Young Danzig (where was he that night?). Or the too-many-twists resolution of the murder itself. Or what Mare's daughter plans to do with her car once she drives cross country to Berkeley and realizes there's no way a freshman student is bringing a car to Berkeley.

plenty of students bring their cars to Berkeley!

Freshmen? Really? Where do they park? Why do they even need a car there?

Sometimes the Rockridge Zachary’s is slammed, and there’s no time to catch a bus to the one on Solano before it closes.

(In seriousness, parking is limited / cars discouraged AFAIK)

maybe she's going to drive there and then sell it

Maybe she’s driving to the Berkelee College of Music in Boston.

which would make sense, given what she does in the show, but I'm pretty sure it's the California one. I think early in the first episode they say how she's gotten some academic scholarship or was an exceptional student or something.

Berkeley is not Manhattan. You can get a University parking space. I dunno how much they cost but you can do it. You can also park on the street like 1/2 the city does.

but yes it was Berkeley and not Berkelee and also it made no sense because unless things have changed dramatically they do not let people in like that on the strength of some video project after admissions are closed.

anyway, I'm going to back to recommending Cruella on the basis of its soundtrack and the fact that 3/4 of it is some ultraqueer Project Runway rip with cute dogs

Well that was the worst thread derail of the year anyway

lol

year aint over yet

It's a little too comic book hyperactive, a la Edgar Wright, but "We are Lady Parts" (on Peacock) is a lot of fun so far.

I was just about to big up "We Are Lady Parts!" I wish there were more music but what there is pretty legit (at least to me), some great performances, some jokes that really slay, and a lot of awesome old ladies who DNGAF.

We watched Raya and the Last Dragon—the kids loved it, but I didn’t think it was very good (and I usually like Disney Animation films). Admittedly, I slept through a big chunk of it…

we bailed halfway through, i didnt enjoy it

but obv not necessarily “for” me

Just saw Raya in the theater. Loved it. NB I am of Southeast Asian heritage so a LOTTA appealing things for me.

Yeah the worldbuilding weaving different Asian cultures was great. I recognized a few expressions from Vietnamese and probably a lot went over my head, but I liked that it wasn't explained. Animation was great too. The biggest minus was the dialogue tried too hard to be funny and often fell flat. But the ending swept me up, so I liked it overall

That’s interesting – I thought the animation wasn’t up to their usual standard (human faces looked “off”).

And yeah, it’s a pet peeve of mine when characters in something like that use excessively hip/jokey/idiomatic modern language (and I know it’s a fantasy world, they can talk however the writers want…).

I'm so stoked for this idc idc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsah5yCzh-U

hm, they've turned gossip girl into HBO's new "teenagers like to fuck" show i see