"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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The antisemitism Hetman

maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 28 May 2021 12:55 (five years ago)

this is fine

“We are fighting an enemy that is different from us. Not open, but hiding. Not straightforward, but crafty. Not national, but international. It does not believe in working but speculates with money; it does not have its homeland, but feels it owns the whole world.”

Viktor Orbán pic.twitter.com/Th3QhuOEVT

— Visegrad 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰 (@visegrad24) January 31, 2020

Left, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:57 (five years ago)

he may be a nazi but at least he didn't call israel racist or anything

Left, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:59 (five years ago)

Was that a particularly long question on Tipping Point?

Mark G, Friday, 28 May 2021 13:42 (five years ago)

Lol

There is little desire among voters to revisit the mistakes of the last traumatic year, writes @stephenkb. https://t.co/h0qtpPXTAT

— New Statesman (@NewStatesman) May 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 May 2021 14:07 (five years ago)

I kind of agree that resignations are meaningless bullshit, not reading the piece obviously

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 May 2021 14:12 (five years ago)

the Boris and the flat business - Johnson cleared of breaking ministerial code.... yawn... That reminds me I need to add some flour and onions to the shopping list

calzino, Friday, 28 May 2021 14:34 (five years ago)

-PM 'unwisely' proceeded without understanding funding.
-CCHQ & Tory donor initially paid bill.
-PM found out about Tory donor funding when he read it in media.
-Didn't break ministerial code.
-'Ill-served' by officials.

lol some absolute gems from the Lord Geidt report

calzino, Friday, 28 May 2021 14:50 (five years ago)

boris: too thick to understand that taking big handfuls of crisp hundos from donors for personal gain is against the ministerial code, but absolutely intellectually equipped to lead the country through a pandemic

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 May 2021 15:01 (five years ago)

oh well at least it has arrived at that time of the week when Marina Hyde completely annihilates him with some devastating word-play *again*

calzino, Friday, 28 May 2021 15:48 (five years ago)

if you think about it, all of us have failed boris

Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:11 (five years ago)

And if we don't?

Mark G, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:25 (five years ago)

I think a lot about "who don't we save" in terms of guillotines

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 May 2021 17:36 (five years ago)

Today is the last day of @UKLabour’s Community Organising Unit, killed despite its promise and effectiveness by Keir Starmer and David Evans as part of their wanton self-destruction of the Labour Party. The deliberate march into irrelevance and oblivion continues.

— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) May 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:04 (five years ago)

kieth and his buddies literally make me want to fucking vomit. they really do despise everything that is good.

I just noticed the LibDem candidate in Batley is a producer on the famous show I've never heard of called Bargain Britain on Benefits!

calzino, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:47 (five years ago)

anything that gives people the faintest glimmer of hope that something good can be achieved by Labour needs to be snuffed out immediately

calzino, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:50 (five years ago)

I've seen it suggested that Kieth was all out to do in COU from the start and likely he had a deal with rotten Labour councillors to do it in - in return for support last year.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 08:40 (five years ago)

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/02/starmers-war-on-grassroots-politics

Just burn it down

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 May 2021 09:41 (five years ago)

This is v good though for now the Tories are enjoying the better side of that equation. The losses in the South are not going to trouble them just yet. It could take a while (I won't say a decade because I think a 10% increase in house prices in a year is playing with fire and I really think Sunak's bubble will burst). But v good point that Tories don't do levelling up or equality (in the same way Lab can't do the state and racism). However, what really will help them is a divided opposition.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/28/policies-johnson-power-left-conservative-voters

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2021 10:11 (five years ago)

This is (I think?) what I was trying to get at earlier in the thread. If Labour lost 2015/17/19/24/28 in the 90s by starting to ignore an at that point in time unimportant section of the electorate, then are the Conservatives doing the same thing now (and since...2014?) to future elections

I think its two cycles away at least, and there are other unknowns inbetween, but taking a section of the electorate for granted comes at a price eventually

anvil, Saturday, 29 May 2021 10:43 (five years ago)

that's where voter ID and other overt and subtle suppression techniques come in

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 10:57 (five years ago)

That's not going to work in the white Southern areas that are being abandoned by the Tories, and what the piece I linked to discusses.

Obviously one thing not discussed is how the electoral path is being abandoned (a potential effect of Starmer's Labour) nationally and how the fight is migrating to more local levels.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:12 (five years ago)

I don't know if its too early to tell how pronounced the dampening effect of Starmer's time will be. As pointed out by Left upthread, the voters they're losing to the right currently are most likely outnumbered by the voters they're losing elsewhere - but this second group of lost voters don't seem to be drifting to any other party, as most of those look even more redundant

anvil, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:20 (five years ago)

cuz they are

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:23 (five years ago)

i am all for abandonment of party/electoral bullshit as long as that energy goes towards fighting for/against the right things

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:25 (five years ago)

we're seeing a whole lot more divide & rule, seletive conditional inclusion/exclusion stuff being pushed to young white people, poor white people, middle class black & asian people, cis white women, non-muslims, non-black people, non-travellers, non-benefit claimants, property owners, different types of renters, different employment arrangements, citizenship statuses... which has had some success in all these cases whether or not it will ultimately pay off for the tories or any party. which almost seems beside the point as long as it keeps the system going

we're also seeing more pushback against all these things which is great

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:30 (five years ago)

*selective

still waiting for britain abolition (not just breaking up the union) to become the standard "left"/anti-govt position. i can dream

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:39 (five years ago)

"the dampening effect of Starmer"

enough about Jennifer Chapman you smutty minded young man ... sorry couldn't resist some HIGNYFY hilarity on such a nice sunny day.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:50 (five years ago)

have i ever mentioned how much i fucking hate britain

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Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 12:35 (five years ago)

from the very fucking platform that gave us the current PM. Seriously that smug melt cunt can go die in a ditch. Anything good that remains of the BBC is fuck all to do with him and his kind.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 12:40 (five years ago)

Bbc's creative output includes Mitchell and Webb, abolish the licence fee imo

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 May 2021 12:45 (five years ago)

BBC's creative output includes The Black and White Minstrel Show

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 13:14 (five years ago)

Rare footage of the hignfy green room as they were chortling boris to power

https://i.imgur.com/8ubGFLt.gif

Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Saturday, 29 May 2021 13:28 (five years ago)

The Black and White Mitchell Show.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:41 (five years ago)

i don't know who david mitchell is but i hate him

plax (ico), Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:52 (five years ago)

i do know who david mitchell is and i hate him

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 29 May 2021 17:17 (five years ago)

one thing that Corbynism did was flush out people like Mitchell into showing their arses. Previously I just immensely disliked him but it turned to pure hatred in the Corbyn years.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 17:51 (five years ago)

I mean tbf he's shit at his alleged actual job so being a centrist cunt is just icing

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 May 2021 17:58 (five years ago)

His job appears to be appearing in a lot of interchangeable panel shows with the cream of British comedy talents.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:01 (five years ago)

Great moments in popular culture

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:07 (five years ago)

Don't want to upset the in-laws now

adrian "voodoo" chiles (Matt #2), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:08 (five years ago)

He seems like a guy whose career hasn't really gone anywhere (the other guy even more so).

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:10 (five years ago)

Feel like there’s a poll in the “how to be ___” landfill books that have been written by the arrant grifters and clowns of uk public discourse in the last decade

Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:16 (five years ago)

That’s re Webb tho his is how not to be, but still merits inclusion

Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:17 (five years ago)

Webb was at our Joel's graduation, i had to be firmly instructed not to heckle

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:19 (five years ago)

that coming of age memoir about his gritty middle class upbringing that was the book of the week on R4 at the time. Probably the funniest material I've ever heard from him tbf. There was a bit where he has retelling a scrap with his Da or something that was such terrible writing it made me laugh out loud rather than ponder toxic masculinity or whatever the mediocre Cambridge prick was trying to do.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:28 (five years ago)

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mark s, Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:30 (five years ago)

the particular strain of crypto-reactionary liberalism that dominates post-alt UK comedy seriously needs to be studied, it's an actual phenomenon which doesn't get identified nearly often enough. even the apparently apolitical stuff like fake-ironic outrage over "incorrect word usage" is insidious

the south park/family guy thing which is related but not identical gets called out all the time these days but this UK stuff still gets way too much of a pass probably because they're mates with everyone in media and they're all implicated. in fact the issues with comedy are the issues with the UK press, we could kill both with 1 stone

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:32 (five years ago)

cancel culture? i think it would be a good idea

Left, Saturday, 29 May 2021 18:33 (five years ago)


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