Aziz Ansari's 'Master of None' on Netflix

Oh, and I meant to say that I agreed with your initial post/revive, treeship, I just got caught up in the horrible slate thing.

Also, there's an "oh, fuck" at the end of this which is so casual that it's impressive.

I am reading that Slate piece right now and that "offensive" line was a (somewhat glib) characterization of the online reaction to Waithe's involvement in "Them" and not a direct description of her and her work, particularly given the context in which it appears.

My main takeaway is that some of you read for outrage rather than comprehension.

around the time Them was about to launch on Amazon I saw a lot of slms against Waithe on Twitter circulating around two main areas: 1) claims that she was no longer very original and 2) the 'black torture porn' aspect of something that happens in Them (which I didn't watch, in part because of the description of that scene). But she was responsible for one of the best half hours of TV in recent memory (the thanksgiving episode of MoN) and I really liked Queen and Slim. I only saw season 1 of the Chi which I thought was good. So I'm willing to cut her some slack and I don't know that she is to blame for how Amazon decided to market Them (which made it look like a mockbuster of Us).

have not read that article. Have tried watching Master of None, The Chi and Twenties and didn't like any of them; deduced from that experience that Waithe's work is not for me.

I seem to be in the minority as someone who greatly enjoyed the two first seasons of MoN (especially the second one). Wasnt expecting this type of depth from Aziz Ansari. Does his character even take part in this new season?

2 scenes only, and the first one is a real barn-burner.

watched the first three of this last night, I agree it is very good. I can see why some people are disappointed; it does draw things out, you get very very long scenes of, basically, nothing happening (folding laundry, eating a sandwich), but if you have tolerance for that sort of thing its worth it.

We watched ep 2 last night and immediately started fast forwarding, knowing that the opening scene would consist of the entire song + entire sandwich

the only thing I remember about s2 was wishing eric wareheim would stick to directing

I absolutely cannot relate to this impatience people are expressing with scenes that unfold slowly and carefully. Life is already much, much too fast and most shows are unwatchable because they move even more quickly.

Also the unimportant details in ep2 made no sense. Doesn't matter for the story I guess but it was driving me crazy.

-Denise's friend/hook-up said she was too drunk to drive home, implying that she had driven there. So was Denise driving her home in the friend's car? How did she plan to get home?

-Also the car accident was staged extremely randomly. And the friend was on the passenger side, where the other car plowed into. No word about what happened to her?

-Why would she have left her underwear lying on the floor...like, they showed her getting dressed, you would think she would notice that when she put on her jeans?

-This is silly but Denise offers her cookies, the friend eventually says 'sure, go put them in the oven', and then makes fun of her for having Tollhouse dough. Wtf who assumes that when someone offers them cookies, they're talking about (homemade) dough that they are about to go bake, as opposed to already baked or bought cookies?!

So far I keep going back and forth about whether this is deeply felt & observed material or bullshit that deeply wishes it was serious art.

The disappearance of the “friend” was weird to me too. I guess a Femme Fatale can never really die.

lol

(oops, sorry about messing up my spoiler text, oh well)

They also never dealt with who naomi ackie’s character had slept with. I wonder if she even cheated or just made it up to even the score—resist casting herself as the more innocent, sensitive one...

Just saw that that actress is only 28. She does a good job playing someone a decade older. Very emotionally plausible

i don't really remember a huge amount about season 2 other than that I liked it and I got sick of Aziz saying "allora" and there was a pretty Italian woman.

finished this last night. Its very good but I can see how people would be disappointed at lack of firm resolution. It does wind up being a study of Naomi Acker's character more than anything else; I could have done with one more episode focused on Denise.

the IVF episode is incredible.