"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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they might desist on dirty tricks because of the Jo Cox factor, but they will be telling people on the doorsteps she's an amateur with zero political experience, that much is guaranteed.

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 08:58 (five years ago)

Damn those tory lies lol

maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 24 May 2021 09:08 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmlIUrUcAo9GBX?format=jpg&name=large

real charmer is this Halloran

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:30 (five years ago)

well legion of fans are I mean

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:31 (five years ago)

it's easy to see where their votes will be shifting to

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:31 (five years ago)

in 2019 he launched his election campaign at a Luddite memorial, he's a NazLud.

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:35 (five years ago)

haven't heard "bring back the birch" for decades

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 24 May 2021 09:36 (five years ago)

I've only heard it from publishers in ref to Julie

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:42 (five years ago)

I feel bad for this can candidate tbh and the whole thing is so tacky and manipulative and shameless I'm really at a loss!

plax (ico), Monday, 24 May 2021 10:00 (five years ago)

Feels like a new low and I wonder how much lower they can sink

plax (ico), Monday, 24 May 2021 10:01 (five years ago)

Also the stench of desperation will work against them. It's so cynical it almost makes the Tories look like the good guys who are honestly plugging away with their gimmick free candidate with political experience.

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 10:07 (five years ago)

From a thread about the woman shot in Southwark

The TTIP are not an equal rights party; they are not BLM activists, which BLM have said themselves. I was at the Million People March. They are right-wing nationalists who are anti-immigration, anti 5G, antisemitic and believe we need thousands more soldiers.

— Moya Lothian-Mclean (@mlothianmclean) May 24, 2021

For the media of course she's much more a BLM activist than a Taking The Initiative Party member (tbh tho I think this is the first I have even heard of that group but they do not sound good).

nashwan, Monday, 24 May 2021 10:45 (five years ago)

The Taking the Initiative Party was established by a group of British business
people - some from working class backgrounds who felt, like many others across the country, that we had become
politically homeless.

that old chestnut

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 11:08 (five years ago)

Time for The Old Chestnut Party to come to the fore.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 24 May 2021 11:24 (five years ago)

They were the group who came to some of the BLM protests last year dressed like Black Panthers and were immediately flagged by other activists as deeply suspicious / a probable op.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 24 May 2021 11:25 (five years ago)

blimey, some proper J Edgar Hoover cointelpro style shit going on it seems

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 11:32 (five years ago)

Their only idea is to break Corbyn lol.

Jeremy Corbyn shouldn't be a Labour MP until he apologises to the Jewish community, argues @lisanandy.@NickFerrariLBChttps://t.co/8zhwrX29fq

— LBC (@LBC) May 24, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 May 2021 14:09 (five years ago)

Feels like a new low and I wonder how much lower they can sink

― plax (ico), Monday, 24 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Looking at this and like there are so many ways they can sink lower.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 May 2021 14:10 (five years ago)

sad day for Tom Watson and proprietors of Nazi themed s+m dungeons . His biggest donor Max Mosley has just croaked.

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 14:45 (five years ago)

The TTIP thread above reads a little weirdly - from that, you'd expect BLMUK to have said "all solidarity with <checks notes> Sasha Johnson, this is the sort of thing we're talking about", but what they said was "BLMUK expresses our shock and solidarity over the shooting of Sasha Johnson. A young mother and fearless political campaigner who was at the forefront of many BLM protests last summer." - it definitely sounds like she was known to them.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 May 2021 16:03 (five years ago)

the framing by BLMUK and others is confusing but the thread is as clear as it can be far is i can tell ... ?

Left, Monday, 24 May 2021 16:56 (five years ago)

Seen separate receipts saying this guy voted Lib Dem and Green.

https://t.co/MsxIVw8gC8 pic.twitter.com/KYtsAIqmrP

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔬𝔯 𝔞𝔩𝔩 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) May 24, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 May 2021 18:29 (five years ago)

I love these wankers that say they are not party political and talk lots of shite when everyone knows they are shy tory voters

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 18:50 (five years ago)

A young mother and fearless political campaigner who was at the forefront of many BLM protests last summer." - it definitely sounds like she was known to them.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

The BLM tweet states she wasn't part of their organisation but that yes they knew of her and that she spoke at the protests. They've obviously refrained from talking of her politics in grubby detail right now, understandably..

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 May 2021 20:29 (five years ago)

When Amira Baraka was wrongfully imprisoned Audre Lorde led a protest to have him released despite being highly critical of his homophobia and misogyny.
In the same spirit, I hope Sasha recovers and my prayers are with her children, family and friends. https://t.co/VnHX3NQMrL

— Chardine Taylor Stone (@ChardineTaylor) May 24, 2021

I think this post sums it up

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 20:57 (five years ago)

In the last few days we have witnessed several gratuitous public attacks on Jeremy Corbyn from Labour MPs close to the leadership. As always, Jeremy has responded with dignified silence. We're facing a vitally important by-election. Keir needs to halt to this divisive behaviour.

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) May 24, 2021

Neil Coyle has been supping Red label Thunderbird for breakfast again

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 21:12 (five years ago)

have we done this? can't see it upthread, just came across it on twitter and thought it was a joke but apparently it's not?

🚨🚨 | BREAKING: The government is concerned that Dominic Cummings will reveal that Boris Johnson missed numerous key coronavirus crisis meetings because he was working on a biography of Shakespeare, the money from which he needed to fund his divorce

Via @thesundaytimes

— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) May 22, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 24 May 2021 22:56 (five years ago)

I’ve been keeping track. 😹

Sorry, £88,000 not £87,000, I can’t see the entry on the parliament site though. 🤷🏻‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/3pHkrpTsy7

— Ginger Charlie (@GingerCharlie4) May 23, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 24 May 2021 23:03 (five years ago)

who actually buys this shit? forget it!

calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 23:54 (five years ago)

White men over the age of 65.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 24 May 2021 23:56 (five years ago)

probably the very same readership that buy Tristam Hunt books. What fun it must be to be so incurious and finding something worthwhile in being bored rigid!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 00:19 (five years ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/j2pCDYQZ/D4-C8-FFB3-4609-44-DD-8-A7-B-DAB47-B29-BDA6.jpg

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 08:48 (five years ago)

Cue a bunch of women asking the question, and the related question of why they should put more faith in party back channels that have historically failed.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 08:51 (five years ago)

Being left-wing until the very moment she became an MP - utterly vile person.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 09:19 (five years ago)

Interesting that even after all Tory membership is at 200k

Tory membership has increased 60% in the last three years and now stands at 200,000. Labour is losing 10,000 members a month, I'm reliably told. Ground game advantage will soon be gone.

— David__Osland (@David__Osland) May 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:00 (five years ago)

As for ground game etc. You don't need to be a member to canvass as such you just show up. Conversely members don't have to show up either.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:02 (five years ago)

the ground game advantage is already long gone imo and seemed like a myth in 2019 where I live. The word on the doorsteps is Kieth shags in his office and is truly inspirational.. what a legendary orator, now fuck off and let me vote Tory

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:08 (five years ago)

those days when the Tories where too embarrassed to disclose how many members they had left was only a few years ago. I think they initially got a big boost from UKIP entryists who joined to vote for Boris.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:15 (five years ago)

Have v vivid memories of bumping into some old pals in a boozer in Kensington (before a B&S gig at the Royal Albert Hall, full disclosure) who had come down from the north-east after canvassing on Brexit vote day, and assured me that the Labour canvassing machine would secure the vote for remain as leave had no ground operation :/

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:35 (five years ago)

i'm a bit naive but i'm not sure how annoying people in their homes helps much

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:51 (five years ago)

^

maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 11:57 (five years ago)

I'd imagine canvassing for Kieth would be about as much fun as hawking blank Betterware catalogues or something. But could imagine how people became enthused during Corbynism - even though they probably got puzzled indifference or told to fuck off most of the time.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 12:11 (five years ago)

I remember on the day of the last election I gave a group of labour canvassers in Hackney a thumbs up, they were all smiles and energy. Later on that day I encountered an absolutely miserable looking woman canvassing alone for the tories in West London. Felt very The Two Genders.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 12:16 (five years ago)

i'm a bit naive but i'm not sure how annoying people in their homes helps much

I can see annoying people on doorstep may seem counter-productive, but the lack of presence is most likely more of an issue. Contributes to the general feeling of being ignored and unheard. Suspect a surprising number of people actually like it, even if appearing annoyed - as it gives the opportunity to speak back.

Think the annoyance isn't actually at people at the door, but more 'how come you only appear here once every four years'

anvil, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 12:31 (five years ago)

I recall someone I follow on twitter posting about canvassing in 2019, possibly in London I think. And they came to a house with a union jack in the window and after expecting the worse it turned out the occupant was a charming old bloke who wasn't remotely fash and they had a pleasant and engaging politics conversation with them. Lol probably still a 100% chance they voted tory though.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 12:57 (five years ago)

also canvassing might get you to meet exciting celebrities such as Adam Curtis (allegedly), the drummer from Blur and members of Chumbawawa

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 13:12 (five years ago)

Most of my own experience of door-knocking has been re: people who were already thought to be Labour-leaning or possibles, from previous data.

Knocking on random doors and bothering unsympathetic people would clearly be a different matter.

And yet ... now I think about it, I have often been quite intimidated knocking on doors, and have met an awful lot of people saying "I'll be voting, but not for you", and "I won't be voting for you, because you want to stop Brexit" - that kind of thing. So even knocking on a pre-selected group does get mixed results.

However, I have never felt that it had actively bad results, pushing a voter away who would otherwise have voted Labour.

My regret is that I spent time doing this for Neil Coyle in Bermondsey in 2015, not yet knowing that he was a dangerous, reactionary and offensive lunatic.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 13:37 (five years ago)

First biography of Keir Starmer set to be released 8th July. ‘A Life of Contrasts’ is written by former FT journo Nigel Cawthorne. PR release says it will find the man behind this “complex leader” and include “the girlfriends and his country roots.”

— James Heale (@JAHeale) May 25, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:00 (five years ago)

kieth starmer in a country root-down

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:03 (five years ago)

yeee haw!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:06 (five years ago)


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