EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

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idk stinks of a manufactured moral panic and I guess I just don’t believe em. guess we’ll see in time.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:40 (five years ago)

wonder where wed be if anyone on the dem side ever tried to sell the fact that weve had a huge drop in crime oh well

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:43 (five years ago)

ratchet effect

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:47 (five years ago)

Idk I cringed when I saw the tweet, but I'm going to listen to the podcast later to understand EK's perspective better.

― jaymc, Saturday, May 22, 2021 12:36 PM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

thing is regardless of how thoughtful the podcast is doesnt excuse him writing fucked up sensationalistic headlines, pushing literal trump talking points, and further overnight this shit is just all over centrist media/politics, its trash

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:52 (five years ago)

Matty: not very bright

https://i.imgur.com/G4oqbOi.png
https://i.imgur.com/ar6XZtz.png

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:40 (five years ago)

loll

flopson, Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:42 (five years ago)

omg

mh, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:24 (five years ago)

p surprising that the first ngrams instance of empathy was around 1950

flopson, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:39 (five years ago)

Someone on Twitter traced its growth to a paper from 1957.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 24 May 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

i bet the people looking into this are very empathetic

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 24 May 2021 00:49 (five years ago)

I retweeted the Yglesias tweet because I think Ngrams are neat, and I even paused before doing so to wonder whether it was case-insensitive, but the screenshot showed the words "Case-insensitive"! But I guess that's something that you have to click, which would've highlighted that little bubble. I deleted the retweet after I saw that exchange. :/

jaymc, Monday, 24 May 2021 03:45 (five years ago)

this guy

https://i.imgur.com/K7pMtAh.png

lag∞n, Friday, 4 June 2021 00:48 (five years ago)

What a guy to call someone “incurious”

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 4 June 2021 00:52 (five years ago)

Young Matt Yglesias

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oriff8YpKIxspTvsA/giphy_s.gif

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 4 June 2021 00:56 (five years ago)

Well saying "nothing is popular at the start" is clearly hyperbole.

o. nate, Friday, 4 June 2021 02:14 (five years ago)

Today in "if only someone had tried this brilliant idea before!"

A good way to not have everything held hostage by Joe Manchin would be to nominate politicians who are more conservative than Joe Biden and try to win senate races in North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, and Texas.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 4, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:17 (five years ago)

lol unbelievable

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:43 (five years ago)

theres literally never been a time when the democrats havent been doing that

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:44 (five years ago)

The centrist troops who ran against Cornyn and McConnell got crushed IIRC

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:46 (five years ago)

yeah centrism as practiced over the last 30 odd years is just not too popular right now

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:51 (five years ago)

Is there any reason to think Theresa Greenfield isn't more conservative than Joe Biden? Was Cal Cunningham a flaming liberal? Not as far as I know. What exactly is the bad choice he thinks the Democrats are making here?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:54 (five years ago)

and the only democratic senator in those five states (Sherrod Brown) is markedly less conservative than Joe Biden

symsymsym, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:03 (five years ago)

Maybe he wants to clone Strom Thurmond circa 1946 and bring back the Dixiecrats.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:09 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

Hardcore identity politics surfaced in 2016 as an opportunistic anti-Bernie gambit but most of the Young Left took the critique to heart and woke radicalism was very in vogue in 2020 as Sunrise etc hopped on the defund police bandwagon. Adams now bringing it back full circle.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 20, 2021

totally

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 00:49 (four years ago)

Sunrise etc

symsymsym, Monday, 21 June 2021 03:28 (four years ago)

what percentage of americans have any clue who adams is

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2021 03:33 (four years ago)

Who is he talking about? The Dilbert guy?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:37 (four years ago)

nyc mayor candidate

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:46 (four years ago)

Not going to make an argument that this guy was ever good, but it's pretty clear that twitter has steadily fried his brain over the past 6 years or so

intheblanks, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:59 (four years ago)

the twitter/substack combo has made brain fry irresistible to a handful of famous bloggers

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:05 (four years ago)

him greenwald taibbi sully are just out there tweeting "big woke identity politics cancelation today" then writing insane emails and making millions of dollars, easy work

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:08 (four years ago)

Yeah, was gonna say seems like Vox helped rein in some of his worst/laziest impulses.

jaymc, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:10 (four years ago)

i think one thing with the aforementioned substackers is despite building careers around being iconoclasts they really all are ultimately elitists and mass movements like blm really just offend their sensibilities

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:14 (four years ago)

its amazing that matty tries to categorize defund the police as identity politics, its name is literally a policy proposal lol

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:15 (four years ago)

oh so Iglesias has become one of those people who uses woke ironically/unironically, scare quotes/no scare quotes

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:28 (four years ago)

It's not just Adams, the fact that none of the top three candidates in the Democratic primary in a famously liberal city are willing to support "defund the police" as a slogan is telling.

o. nate, Monday, 21 June 2021 15:34 (four years ago)

amazing that matty tries to categorize defund the police as identity politics

not so amazing if matty firmly believes that the major function of the police is to enforce racial and class norms and that voters clearly understand this and vote according to where they stand within that system of privilege. I've no idea if matty grasps this concept consciously and openly or just unconsciously and implicitly bcz he's a white American.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Monday, 21 June 2021 16:54 (four years ago)

reasonable point

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 17:07 (four years ago)

someone posted a screencap of Yglesias in 2016 essaying about how you can't divorce identity politics from politics because it's the only real and consistent form of politics

but Matty has deleted yesterday's tweet so I can't find it

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:39 (four years ago)

The contrarian grift is getting competitive so here's Matty insisting Tucker Carlson and Stephen fucking MILLER are not white nationalist extremists: https://t.co/zb11RWpfr1

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) June 25, 2021

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 25 June 2021 23:49 (four years ago)

He deleted the tweet — the sad part is, I bet it's because he spelled Miller's first name with a "v" instead of a "ph".

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 26 June 2021 00:00 (four years ago)

The tweet

Deleted already, usually he waits a few weeks pic.twitter.com/tq5787D9dN

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) June 25, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 26 June 2021 00:09 (four years ago)

Do you think he has an inner life or is he just an automaton

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 26 June 2021 00:11 (four years ago)

Anyone defending this fucker past this point is extremely suspect imo

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 26 June 2021 02:02 (four years ago)

brooks to yglesias is approximately the rate of change pic.twitter.com/ZXZTg49X26

— Whet Moser (@whet) July 3, 2021

jaymc, Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:42 (four years ago)

tf

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 3 July 2021 07:40 (four years ago)

lol at "twitter is real life" tbf

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 July 2021 13:47 (four years ago)

hell yeah bud they’re totally buying in on those hard hitting truth bombs you’re selling out of the back of your substack, and def not just a bunch of bloodless freaks who require their worldview reflected back to them while the ocean burns

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 3 July 2021 15:46 (four years ago)

i know haters itt won't cop to it but klain reading yglesias is a huge improvement over obama reading david brooks. just on monetary/fiscal policy (probably the most important thing the white house has leverage on rn) matt is way more dovish than the median wonk

flopson, Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:06 (four years ago)

in general it's kinda wild how online the biden administration are. like economists on staff and in advisory positions are disproportionately ones who have been active on twitter within the past 3 years

flopson, Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:10 (four years ago)


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