EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

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Again, dumb guy

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:45 (five years ago)

my own dumb guess is that prominent members of the Committee just have a taste for underage girls, too, and ol Jeffy was a prime dude to have in the Rolodex

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:47 (five years ago)

is epsteins blackmail scam just common knowledge in oligarch circles, is he telling bill hes got some of these guys in his pocket and bill just knows what hes talking about, does bill just think epsteins got normal connections, is bill just making all sorts of stuff up in his head cause epstein seems well connected, last one seems unlikely cause like isnt gates himself insanely well connected

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:51 (five years ago)

i think epstein had to have been overtly gassing him up about the award but who knows what he was saying and what bill believed to be true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:54 (five years ago)

erza got the intellect of a local tv news anchor

Violent crime is spiking. Homicides in cities were up by 25-40 percent in 2020, the largest single-year increase since 1960. And 2021 isn’t looking any better.

This is a crisis on its own terms. But it’s also a crisis for the broader liberal project in two downstream ways.

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) May 21, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:14 (five years ago)

It actually isn’t, crime is basically fine.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 21 May 2021 21:15 (five years ago)

This is my most extreme take, most crime is fine,

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 21 May 2021 21:15 (five years ago)

imho violent and many but not all other crimes are bad but ezra is indistinguishable from some sensationalistic enumerate right wing freak there

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:18 (five years ago)

like crime is short term up from historic lows to still low, and it was a very weird year

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:19 (five years ago)

like "spiking" what is he up to, seems fucked to me

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:20 (five years ago)

isnt he supposed to be mr sensible, must have something to sell

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:22 (five years ago)

didnt check on ezra but there was a ton of stuff coming out of centrist land about how krasner couldnt survive

We’re not there yet. Larry Krasner survived his primary challenge in Philadelphia.

But we are seeing other signs. Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms isn’t running for reelection after being attacked by challengers as soft on crime. https://t.co/KhFq8wOZ1a

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) May 21, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:23 (five years ago)

and by survive of course we mean landslide

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:25 (five years ago)

anyway this shit is shameful and prob part of some larger pr campaign in service of an establishment freakout about over the left making waves

lag∞n, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:27 (five years ago)

it’s extremely weird.

his vocab and cadence now indistinguishable from people like friedman. does the nytimes just do this to people somehow? no analysis, just a lot of “i spoke to a guy who says liberals need to wake up!”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:34 (five years ago)

Many people are saying it.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 21 May 2021 21:39 (five years ago)

def time to discipline the left

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 21 May 2021 21:47 (five years ago)

violent crime shit is just naked trumpian white supremacy isn't it? why are liberals so fucking racist

Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:55 (five years ago)

Noah Smith should probably be added to the Klein/Yglesias scourge-of-the-left axis:

Even at our nadir of crime in 2013, we were still an order of magnitude more violent than other rich nations

— Noah Smith 🐇 (@Noahpinion) May 21, 2021

o. nate, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:55 (five years ago)

oh this wanker

Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:56 (five years ago)

accidentally right about american violence. it's not "crime"

Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:58 (five years ago)

PMC lib crime panic is completely unsurprising. That’s how you get Joe Biden complaining Reagan isn’t being tough enough on drug crime.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 21 May 2021 22:02 (five years ago)

yup

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 May 2021 00:29 (five years ago)

Homicide rates are up. Don’t know if homicide is considered crime though.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 22 May 2021 00:36 (five years ago)

So’s suicide but the ghouls hollowing us out don’t do much about that

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 22 May 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

But that’s why we have to reopen everything now! (or so I’m constantly told)

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 22 May 2021 00:46 (five years ago)

Suicides aren't up

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 22 May 2021 03:41 (five years ago)

isn't that tweet a promo for Ezra's podcast with James Forman Jr?

jaymc, Saturday, 22 May 2021 03:57 (five years ago)

i mean, i haven't listened to the episode yet, but this is the full description:

Early estimates find that in 2020, homicides in the United States increased somewhere between 25 percent and nearly 40 percent, the largest spike since 1960, when formal crime statistics began to be collected. And early estimates indicate that the increase has carried over to 2021.

Violent crime is a crisis on two levels. The first, and most direct, is the toll it takes on people and communities. The lost lives, the grieving families, the traumatized children, the families and businesses that flee, leaving inequality and joblessness for those who remain.

It’s also a political crisis: Violent crime can lead to more punitive, authoritarian and often racist policies, with consequences that shape communities decades later. In the 1970s and ’80s, the politics of crime drove the rise of mass incarceration and warrior policing, the political careers of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, the abandonment of inner cities. If these numbers keep rising, they could end any chance we have of building a new approach to safety, and possibly carry Donald Trump — or someone like him — back to the presidency in 2024.

There’s still time. Just this week, Philadelphia’s progressive district attorney, Larry Krasner, handily fended off a primary challenge. But the politics are changing, and fast: Democratic primary voters in New York City say crime and violence is the second most important problem facing the city, behind the coronavirus but ahead of affordable housing and racial injustice. And just a few weeks ago, Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta, who was facing political challengers attacking her for being soft on crime, announced she would not seek re-election in the fall.

So do liberals have an answer to violent crime? And if so, what is it?

James Forman Jr. is a professor of law at Yale Law School and the author “Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America,” for which he received a Pulitzer Prize. In the book, Forman uses Washington, D.C., of the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s as a case study to explore the political and psychological dynamics that rising crime produces. We discuss the toll of living amid both street and state violence; what the crime wave of the ’70s and ’80s did to Black politics; the causes of the “Great Crime Decline”; the extent to which policing and prisons actually reduce crime; why we should think of violence the way we think of pandemics; the Black community’s complex views of policing; the three-pronged approach liberals should take to safety; and much more.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 May 2021 03:58 (five years ago)

Idk maybe try taking some people’s guns away

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 22 May 2021 04:12 (five years ago)

that podcast description is the dictionary definition of concern trolling

anyway

The subways will be filled with cops due to the political class's conviction, in the face of all evidence, that it is still 1980.
https://t.co/1L6hdj9zRs

— VICE (@VICE) May 18, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 May 2021 13:20 (five years ago)

In my experience, affluent New Yorkers (off all political colors) ALWAYS think crime is going up. They think it's going up when it's going up, they think it's going up when it's going down.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 22 May 2021 13:24 (five years ago)

generally this is true of americans of all wealths

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 May 2021 13:34 (five years ago)

yeah I recall a poll showing exactly that

k3vin k., Saturday, 22 May 2021 13:44 (five years ago)

the richer you are the more obsessed you are with minorities taking your money hmmm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 May 2021 13:52 (five years ago)

crime is funny in that the more police there are "doing their job" the more crime there is, weird

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Saturday, 22 May 2021 14:18 (five years ago)

the memo has gone out

Important thread. On some issues, e.g. homosexuality and marijuana, public opinion has moved to the left and will probably stay there.

Crime is different. If crime surges, public opinion will move back to the right, fast. If progressives don't rein in crime, conservatives will. https://t.co/eTjXXSGCZo

— Will Saletan (@saletan) May 22, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 May 2021 16:04 (five years ago)

Silicon Valley weirdos are melting down over an alleged “shoplifting epidemic” pic.twitter.com/sk7SMHGceI

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 22, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 22 May 2021 16:18 (five years ago)

Idk I cringed when I saw the tweet, but I'm going to listen to the podcast later to understand EK's perspective better.

jaymc, Saturday, 22 May 2021 16:36 (five years ago)

so is this like a US attempt at blue labour or is it just reheated 90s clintonism

why does this prick's racism deserve a more generous reading than trump's or whoever? because he's got graphs?

Left, Saturday, 22 May 2021 16:45 (five years ago)

idk stinks of a manufactured moral panic and I guess I just don’t believe em. guess we’ll see in time.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:40 (five years ago)

wonder where wed be if anyone on the dem side ever tried to sell the fact that weve had a huge drop in crime oh well

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:43 (five years ago)

ratchet effect

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:47 (five years ago)

Idk I cringed when I saw the tweet, but I'm going to listen to the podcast later to understand EK's perspective better.

― jaymc, Saturday, May 22, 2021 12:36 PM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

thing is regardless of how thoughtful the podcast is doesnt excuse him writing fucked up sensationalistic headlines, pushing literal trump talking points, and further overnight this shit is just all over centrist media/politics, its trash

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:52 (five years ago)

Matty: not very bright

https://i.imgur.com/G4oqbOi.png
https://i.imgur.com/ar6XZtz.png

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:40 (five years ago)

loll

flopson, Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:42 (five years ago)

omg

mh, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:24 (five years ago)

p surprising that the first ngrams instance of empathy was around 1950

flopson, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:39 (five years ago)

Someone on Twitter traced its growth to a paper from 1957.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 24 May 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

i bet the people looking into this are very empathetic

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 24 May 2021 00:49 (five years ago)


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