"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Who knew Marr was an ecosocialist?

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 May 2021 10:06 (five years ago)

just remembering that time he just went short of physically attacking Shami Chakrabarti on live television, that was a glimpse of the nasty little Tory aggro-weasel he really is.

calzino, Monday, 17 May 2021 10:19 (five years ago)

He’s probably a basic liberal or considers himself as such but a) gets annoyed if women are smarter than him and b) an Obs writer of some note once told me he did something ruthless and unprofessional to someone he considered competition in the office, only wish I could remember exactly what that was.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 17 May 2021 10:24 (five years ago)

Coming out as a Scottish Nationalist.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2021 10:27 (five years ago)

I don't think he has a strong handle on what his views are but likes the idea that he has some views that might make him of interest to anybody

anvil, Monday, 17 May 2021 10:30 (five years ago)

Whenever Marr is mentioned that clip with Chomsky where Chomsky stumps him and has him lost for words is wheeled out.

Its misleading editing. Marr isn't stumped for words at all, and continues on blithely, unaware of what Chomsky just said. There's nothing there

anvil, Monday, 17 May 2021 10:34 (five years ago)

I think Suzy's right about Marr.

He actually did use to write quite intelligent books - 25+ years ago; I suspect that his thought has coarsened over time.

the pinefox, Monday, 17 May 2021 10:48 (five years ago)

That's not quite true but yes cutting it at the moment of hesitation does amplify it
Xp

plax (ico), Monday, 17 May 2021 10:49 (five years ago)

that's fine, we're in the post-truth era and ppl's headcanon of the encounter is now the correct version

xposts

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 May 2021 10:49 (five years ago)

I see latest hard left MP being taken to task on Twitter for supporting an end to the bombing of Palestine is...Wes Streeting.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 17 May 2021 12:11 (five years ago)

Keir Starmer is in talks over a Graham Taylor-style fly on the wall documentary about live as leader of the opposition

isn't there a more humane way they can put him out of his misery?

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 08:22 (five years ago)

(1)Labour was once fiercely against the "cruel" Means Test : This is the 1935 manifesto, when the party recovered from the 1931 disaster (when Labour's right wing crashed the party with a benefit slashing attack), adding 102 MP's, setting course for victory at the next election pic.twitter.com/RNazWeplJA

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) May 18, 2021

Stella Creasy just part of that tradition of the Labour Right that is in complete opposition to any idea of universality and ultimately despises poor people despite all weaselly bullshit they talk.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 08:40 (five years ago)

Keir Starmer is in talks over a Graham Taylor-style fly on the wall documentary about live as leader of the opposition

This will provide ample fodder for the Accidental Partridge twitter account.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 09:31 (five years ago)

Marr : Suspect GB News have been in touch with him.

mark e, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:04 (five years ago)

Just read a Ben Houchen piece advocating for a Green Industrial Revolution. Quite frustrating to see the Tories shamelessly pilfer Labour policies while the Labour Party itself abandons them in favour of a Graham Taylor style fly-on-the-wall documentary

— Ellie Mae O'Hagan (@elliemaeohagan) May 18, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:09 (five years ago)

Surely KS and his own staff couldn't consider this "Graham Taylor style"? I mean, they do realise that that video was widely considered to make GT look an idiot?

(Leave aside here the fact that GT was rather rehabilitated later.)

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:09 (five years ago)

The Tories will put in inadequate versions of socialist Lab policy while Lab go back to optics and means testing.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:10 (five years ago)

yeah tbf on Graham Taylor he was probably much more actively anti-racist than Kieth will ever be.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:23 (five years ago)

I assume the Graham Taylor reference is an obvious clue that this is fake news

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 11:27 (five years ago)

In the age of numerous entire seasons of 'All Or Nothing' fly-ons and the 2017 doc following the Corbyn-sceptic MPs it's an odd reference.

Basically why are they doing this now?

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 12:03 (five years ago)

lol not to be citation needed but where did you find that info, calz?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 12:09 (five years ago)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a445fbaa-b7ac-11eb-9a91-c8c89595f50e?shareToken=be2152d35204485147d3a7a32b775889

it's in todays Times

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 12:26 (five years ago)

I don't think the Graham Taylor ref came from Starmer's office though

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 12:27 (five years ago)

The Tories will put in inadequate versions of socialist Lab policy while Lab go back to optics and means testing.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 11:10 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This, imo, is the real Long Corbyn effect. Just hilarious that its leading to the death of the Labour Party because they're too chickenshit to take advantage of the cultural shift.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:03 (five years ago)

I look forward to some Graun writers acknowledging the real Long Corbynism and how chickenshit Labour decided to kill the party rather than campaign on popular Corbyn policies... well perhaps by about 2031

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:28 (five years ago)

The unit of time for how long it takes to realise the Gulf War was not just a mistake but a craven and foolish bid for power at the expense of millions of lives and decades of regional instability could be hereafter known as "1 Graun"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:41 (five years ago)

Been reading bits of Pankaj Mishra's Bland Fanatics, it's horribly otm about q lot of this stuff, horribly because of the feeling of powerlessness to snap these idiots out of it

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:02 (five years ago)

I've been reading bits of Age Of Anger but haven't finished it - he's very good

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:05 (five years ago)

Can see the potential symbolic strengths of a Leadbeater candidacy in B&S byelection, but was intrigued to read she'd only recently joined Labour. The rulebook (Cap. 5, I.1.B.i) requires 12 months membership. Of course, the NEC's power is near absolute. https://t.co/htovReN1ul

— James B (@piercepenniless) May 18, 2021

a multitude of headaches brewing for Kieth on this Batley & Spen candidate, good job he's got his forensic powers because he sure will need them!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:33 (five years ago)

potential candidate I meant

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:34 (five years ago)

she doesn't really believe in politics, she's of the opinion if there were no hard-left/hard-right and if moderate people like her could get a bigger audience to spout vacuous platitudes at about how everyone needs to be nicer to each, then everything would be grand.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:02 (five years ago)

Join the fucking Liberals then.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:09 (five years ago)

if Kieth blocks her she might stand as an independent and do quite well, or if they break the rules to let her stand she does poorly it's all on him again!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:14 (five years ago)

if you're not into politics maybe stay the fuck out of politics oh wait there's attention too

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:37 (five years ago)

I don't think Kieth will want a dilettante candidate and probably the Batley + S CLP won't either. Whoever the people are encouraging her to run really haven't thought it over very well and it seems a bit "off" to me. Brabin was quite a strong brand in the sense she had high recognition in the area and is slick, but not too overly slick and projects that aura of competence that is important to some people and is basically likable by politician standards. And she only just squeaked it in the Brexit election. Now it's a post-Brexit/easing of lockdown/total Tory hegemony byelection it's easy to imagine a few of the voting blocs in the area who would vote Tory or fash over Leadbeater without a 2nd thought.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 19:27 (five years ago)

'Can you share what the Labour party stands for?' - @adilray

'I can't...They're confidential meetings' - @JonAshworth

Adil and @susannareid100 challenge the shadow Health Sec on Labour's layout policy meetings. pic.twitter.com/Ax42qcjzBM

— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) May 19, 2021

what does your party stand for? absolutely nothing and it's none of your business anyway!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 07:59 (five years ago)

Activists have broken into a weapons factory in Leicester and temporarily halted production.

Hermes and Watchkeeper drones, produced in Leicester, tested on Palestine, sold to global war criminals, shut down by #PalestineAction. pic.twitter.com/u9GVF7qetV

— Palestine Action (@Pal_action) May 19, 2021

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 08:10 (five years ago)

UK House price inflation is on fire...
UK average house prices increased by 10.2% over the year to March 2021,

— Shaun Richards (@notayesmansecon) May 19, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 09:10 (five years ago)

Ace, we need a housing bubble

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 09:23 (five years ago)

I was just one m'fking number away from being able to buy my first ever house on last night's euromillions.

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 09:25 (five years ago)

god, Ashworth is such a fucking utterly disgusting human being if you saw someone glassing him in the head you'd be buying them a pint rather calling an ambulance

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 09:46 (five years ago)

probably harsh, but I could probably think of at least a dozen tories who are demonstrably more likable than him.

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 09:53 (five years ago)

To be fair, he is infinitesimally more likeable than his wife.

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 10:30 (five years ago)

yeah, there always does seem to be an even lower rung on that ladder that leads down to infernal melt hell

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 10:36 (five years ago)

Just despicable

Following numerous complaints about fast food delivery riders we conducted an operation in #tooting this afternoon with immigration enforcement.
In 90 mins we stopped
48 bikes.
2 were seized for no insurance
3 riders reported for offences
2 x arrests for immigration offences pic.twitter.com/nOOBMlY1Xl

— Roads&Transport MPS (@MPSRTPC) May 18, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 10:40 (five years ago)

fucking horrible, boasting about harassing key workers on poverty wages as they do their difficult and unrewarding work.

calzino, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 10:46 (five years ago)

That's a whole lot of cold pizzas that'll need reheating

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 11:09 (five years ago)

What a bunch of cunts

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 12:07 (five years ago)

assuming these complaints are real what kind of scum

Left, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 12:16 (five years ago)

taking the acab of it all for granted

Left, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 12:18 (five years ago)


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