"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

just plain and simple str8 up Nazis

their Chairman is ex-UKIP. Probably one of them that jumped ship because Farage was too much of a moderate I think.

the Northern Independence Party would kill for those numbers though!

Those numbers are what made me wonder if they were NazBol rather than straight up Naz

Paul Halloran was going for the inflammatory grooming gangs/terrorism angle, then said in his own defence no I can't be racist because my mam once took in a homeless Jamaican kid!

Yes, I thought it was an abbreviation of Spenborough, and even that the constituency was really called Batley & Spenborough but everyone was just oddly agreeing to abbreviate it. A bit like if everyone was saying 'Notts' or 'Northants' out loud.

But it's then odd that its *official* name is Batley & Spen, with no reference to Spenborough.

Google Maps does feature a SPEN, next to the River Spen.

There was a Spen Valley constituency until 1950.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spen_Valley_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

And a Spenborough local government district till 1974:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spenborough

Spenborough was created as an urban district in 1915 by the merger of Cleckheaton, Gomersal and Liversedge urban districts.[1] The amalgamation was carried out on the instigation of Cleckheaton Urban District Council, in order to resist plans by the County Borough of Bradford to annex the area. The name "Spenborough", after the River Spen, was also suggested by Cleckheaton UDC

That tends to suggest that the name Spenborough was created in c.1915.

Bradford going power mad for more lebensraum, someone need to take a stand against them!

Labour are going to parachute in the Hartlepool guy again, spend the whole campaign talking about grooming gangs to try and 'win back' hardcore racists, then lose their deposit

the Spen isn't much of river really, it's a tributary of the Calder and unless there are flood conditions it's more like a big stream I think.

"Labour are going to parachute in the Hartlepool guy again"

If you can't win seriously at least lose with good humour

I some a couple of Paula Sherriff rumours on twitter, not one of the worst melts but sending a remain ultra to a 60% Leave constituency wouldn't work imo

pic.twitter.com/xPCPsmPrFj

— Andrew R (@ExcelPope) May 11, 2021

lol! from the Kieth really is 6'2 ..honestly... serious of photos with his maverick cop partner.

There have been lots of average quality memes about those photos but that one is genuinely excellent.

It brings so much together -- the odd extensiveness of that photoshoot, their carefully selected outfits (with AR's terrific coat), the weird over-dramatised quality of it, the height deception issue that Calzino has pointed out, the cop partners image, the strange fact that one of these two just tried to fire the other, the names (highlighting the fact that most people not near the area have never thought about Batley or Spen), the ITV factor.

Class has nothing to do with:
-your accent
-where you live
-where you grew up
-what your parents do
-where you went to school

These things remain important in supporting certain individuals to change their class position, but they don’t come into the definition of class.

— Grace Blakeley (@graceblakeley) May 11, 2021

this is a very bad pseud gone on a class trolling mission response to that middle income plus homeowning bigots with regional accents identifying as w/c thing. If you grew up in a poor area in social housing, and went to a sink comprehensive, with parents in low income jobs then your not w/c cos class is thotial constwuct. Yeah just about every formative experience that moulds your perception of yourself from the day you are born, just erase all of that says person who attended a private school and grew up in Hampshire.

EXCL: Carolyn Harris, Keir Starmer's parliamentary private secretary, has resigned amid claims she spread baseless rumours about Angela Rayner's private life

With @patrickkmaguire and @EleniCourea https://t.co/5uww6rzzbz

— Henry Zeffman (@hzeffman) May 11, 2021

I must admit I find Blakeley's position, about 'production' etc, hard to understand. Probably my own intellectual deficiency.

she'd probably need to write a very long Perry Anderson length piece on her class theory to wring out all the nuance. Because in the twitter thread format she just sounds like an infuriatingly wrong posh 'un and she's going to get shellacked for it!

Half of the most prominent left-wing ppl in the media just want ppl to have nice things, as a treat.

No doubt class in a Marxian sense is different to class in a UK-ish self identification sense, in the same way that a huge number of the self-perceived middle class are basically proletarian

Not sure Grace is the one to pick at these threads tho, just reminds me of being told I couldn't be working class cos I was at uni

Grace has been tweeting a lot of shit the last few days. It's a grift for attention and more work.

GB is daft alright but I can’t bring myself to dislike her because 1) her detractors include some of the most deranged people on twitter and 2) she’s very pretty

gyac please

summer is truly a-comin'

Another measure will repeal the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, allowing the prime minister to call an election when he chooses.

Yay fewer elections...

this is a very bad pseud gone on a class trolling mission response to that middle income plus homeowning bigots with regional accents identifying as w/c thing.

I don't know how much mileage there really is in challenging definitions of what working class is. The fact that the label has become untethered from the labelled (if it were every properly afixed) isn't something easily undone. Using words to mean something that other people perceive to mean something entirely different seems a losing proposition

The terms gone

I reckon Novara Media could do a lot worse than bringing in Moyesy to get this lot sorted

Electoral Integrity Bill, Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Bill, Judicial Review Bill, Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Bill to ensure the integrity of elections

_Another measure will repeal the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, allowing the prime minister to call an election when he chooses._

Yay fewer elections...

That's right

But beyond that the Queen's Speech showed a big contrast between the Government's impressively clear political strategy (again evidenced today with bills on elections nature/timing + culture war nudges) and far less clear governing agenda

— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) May 11, 2021

Your daily reminder that the grown ups are back in charge. https://t.co/Fmd8XVhm5H

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) May 11, 2021

good grief!

lol, clarification forthcoming from kieth that angela rayner does not, in fact, suck of tramps 4 cigs

with the caveat that she will in fact do it for a bottle of blue wkd though!

IDST

Take the morning off Twitter and posh people try and talk about class again pic.twitter.com/EIF71hizkB

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) May 11, 2021

I can't see past Grace either lacking way too much self-awareness or just conducting some lazer guided trolling to up her profile, neither is very good.

The latter goes with the territory when it comes to Twitter surely?

I haven't moaned about Twitter in ages so I'm due a go, but slightly disheartened to see this latest Thread About UK Politics so quickly become a new Thread About Tweets About UK Politics.

More TikToks about UK Politics please.

you've got to go looking for the discourse somewhere, it won't come wafting through your kitchen window like smog!

Agreed with Tom, every time this thread gets updated I get excited that Keith's tripped over himself again to some comedic effect so this new line of discussion is disappointing :(

https://t.co/7kLL6p7t1R pic.twitter.com/l5Ftp7MOtH

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) May 11, 2021

🤡🤡🤡

abolish work and class imho

— Dave (@MediocreDave) May 11, 2021

I haven't moaned about Twitter in ages so I'm due a go, but slightly disheartened to see this latest Thread About UK Politics so quickly become a new Thread About Tweets About UK Politics.

― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

That's right

Tom you know I love you but your dn is a twitter reference, come off it

please sadiq https://t.co/PmTYvtGAvW pic.twitter.com/2nxOQA5Rrs

— bick #TeamJess&Wes (@bicknaker) May 11, 2021

FWIW it strikes me that Blakeley's statement is hoist by a very old familiar petard, namely the relations between correlation & causality.

"Education deserves your class position" -- might be untrue.

"Class position determines your education" -- appears quite true.

"There is correlation between education and class position" -- appears true.

I think that she has used "nothing to do with" to indicate a denial of the first statement, but not noticed that it also logically denies the second and third statements, which appear true.

In short, looser talk than I might expect, but maybe that reflects her education.

have to admit i just love grace blakeley so will prob agree with anything she says.

I feel all the ire she has got boils down to a private school educated Oxford alumni from a very priviliged background not really being a good enough writer to condense her class discourse thinking to twitter sized chunks that doesn't boil the piss of lots of people who grew up in poor versions of most of the things she bullets points, especially the housing and education and reduced odds of progressing to higher education with parents that never had a higher education etc. All the formative stuff that made some of us into complete fuckups. Never mind some of us council estate scratters that think Bourdieu is a variety of red wine and cultural capital is a loan company!