Rather die naturally than live unnaturally. Stupid fucking hippies.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link
I might understand the mentality of "I'll just take my chances with the virus" if it were truly like the flu. But I've read of too many cases of otherwise young/healthy people who have been unexpectedly afflicted, or people who have had symptoms that last for months or cause long-term damage, that it really doesn't seem worth the risk!
It's weird: people who are suspicious about what the vaccine might do to them don't seem to be at all concerned with what the virus itself might do!
― jaymc, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
I've been stuck so many times in my life that I don't even think about it, never really understood this fear tbh but I guess that's what makes it an irrational fear.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link
any remaining queasiness I had about shots completely went away the first time I got a shoulder tattoo
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
I'd be more chill regarding the people who want to take their chances w/ the virus if it wasn't contagious, is the thing
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
Wouldn't have an issue if those folk sunk by themselves, but it's dragging down the collateral folk that now have to help that gets me. Dumb attitudes never extend to taking 100% of the consequences.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
― Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
Never underestimate the mental gymnastics someone will perform to avoid doing the right thing.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
I've been surprised by the number of friends/people I know who've never been conspiracy theorists before but are all anti-lockdown, anti-mask & anti-vaccine, and quite vehemently so tooWonder if it's to do with the number of blue tick accounts on social media who amplify all that nonsense
― groovypanda, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
xxp -- a friend is deathly afraid of needles and her solution was a lot of weed, ymmv
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
PROTIP if anyone has never heard this: tensing your muscle makes it hurt so the best thing to do is communicate with the shotgiver that you are going to tense up the muscle getting the shot for as long as you can, then release and let it go slack and let them know to go for it. you likely won't even feel it.
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
I have had terrible needle anxiety all my life, and have passed out many times just seeing hypos - in a grocery once where they were giving flu shots, walking home one night in Pioneer Square when I happened on someone shooting up. It's awful and I have no control over the reaction. It takes every ounce of willpower I have and hours of self-talk for me to voluntarily get a shot and having blood drawn is worse. It had improved some, mostly because I got fascinated with Dr. Pimplepopper videos and she injects anesthetic and takes her time suturing things back together.
Wanting, like seriously happily anticipating, the covid vaccines was a completely new experience and the first time ever I've voluntarily walked into a room where hypos were everywhere and needles were going into arms and I did okay.
I really feel for anyone who experiences needlephobia, it's terrible to have that awful level of anxiety. It doesn't matter that it doesn't hurt. Desensitization (in whatever way works), CBT, promises of a major treat afterwards, anti anxiety meds - maybe all of the above. Maybe just someone to crack jokes and provide distraction and transportation, a vaccine doula. I don't know but I am incredibly proud of every needlephobe out there who gets vaccinated.
― Jaq, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, April 30, 2021 11:47 AM (one hour ago)
especially infuriating when you mentally catalogue all the ways they obvs don't follow through on this
― rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
Got my second shot this week, no symptoms except a sore arm (again), went away in two days. Yay I'm a statistic!!!
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
i have hippie neighbours who won’t get the vaxxed, and they are also terrified of leaving the house because they’re afraid of caring and/or spreading the ‘rona - at least you can’t accuse them of inconsistency
― One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
way to go IO!!
Wonder if it's to do with the number of blue tick accounts on social media who amplify all that nonsense
My working theory is that forced quarantine has made people forget how to interact with other people and they're now spouting shit they normally would have been socialized to keep to themselves.
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
lol sorry my second to last post got autocorrected into (further) incomprehensibility
― One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
Had a friend over last night, and he said his mom has been pretty anti-vax on social media despite having been vaccinated herself. His best theory is that she does not want to alienate her circle of lunatic anti-vax friends, though for all anyone knows that have all been secretly vaccinated, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
well that's depressing
― rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
Kinda feeling like humanity is in need of a hard reboot. Lotta glitches lately.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
I wonder how unique that story is. I have an aunt and uncle who are Trumpy people, apparently, but they were practically first in line to get vaccinated. I don't know where they fall on the conspiracy theory spectrum though.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
I cannot stand seeing needles go into flesh. Never could.
My brother developed Type I diabetes in 1965 when he was 12 and I was 10. He began getting daily insulin injections, sometimes multiple injections, at first from my dad, but as a teenager he started self-administering his injections. Eventually everyone in the family learned to give him injections, including me. It tends to take the edge off one's fear of needles.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Friday, 30 April 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
the phrase “any governor anywhere” in the italics is prob an exaggeration, there’s a big difference between inslee, the gov of a blue state who just won re-election, and whitmer, the gov of a purple state who’s up in 2022
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili)
Inslee press-conferenced yesterday to announce that they're devising guidelines that allow vaccinated-only seating at sports*, shows and school graduations, to roll out before he announces the withdrawal to Phase 2 restrictions next week.
* The Seattle Sounders soccer team were already offering walk-up jabs at their home game this weekend, and have sold 7000 advance tickets (in a 68k cap stadium) for their next five home games. Doing this with more popular sports could be a useful way of bribing the populace.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
Yeah, giving out jabs at the gate to NFL and college football games would likely hit a not insignificant chunk of the US hesitants.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
But soccer is the sport of the future(TM)
― Frumious Cumberbatch (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
I never want to hear about a Phase ever again
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
can't wait until we are out of phase
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
Sounders idea is brilliant actually
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 April 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
Hell, offer a free beer or hot dog or whatever voucher at games with each 1st and/or second jab. Or one of those giant foam fingers, people love those.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
I'm like a month away from endorsing ringing the doorbell and just immediately thrusting the needle into the first person's arm that answers
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 April 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link
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― kinder, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link
got my second shot after work today and I'm gonna eat these words but so far I feel great, not even any arm pain
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 1 May 2021 05:03 (three years ago) link
Peaked about 12 hours after for me
― If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 1 May 2021 06:17 (three years ago) link
I had a big fear of needles as a kid until I had a major operation and 8-day hospital stay at 12 and between all of the blood tests, shots, IVs, etc., I pretty much have never worried about it again.
― keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
Which is nice but not sure I recommend it to treat needle anxiety.
― keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
Similar story for me, except I was 8 and in for like 20 days
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 2 May 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link
Oh and also v minimal side effects from Pfizer two, akin to a hangover, feeling deflated until about lunchtime, then fine aside from arm soreness
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 2 May 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link
I've been giving myself intramuscular injections of beta interferon once a week for exactly 13 years now (676 shots so far!). I have been sticking needles into other people since I worked as a phlebotomist in college, but I have always cringed when giving myself a shot. I’ve had to look at the needle going in to administer the shot but always wanted to look away. I never got used to it.
The company eventually came up with a pen solution, providing an intramuscular injection that I didn't have to watch but was able to give myself by pressing the delivery device against my thigh and triggering an eject button on it, which made it easier
― Dan S, Sunday, 2 May 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
had to shoot myself up with blood thinners twice a day for a couple weeks this summer after some troubles, pretty thin needle but a lot of fluid and right into my abdomen, and lemme tell you i'll let any person inject me with absolutely anything before going through that again
― "MVP Love" (Clay), Sunday, 2 May 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-25/when-will-u-s-vaccination-be-done-we-re-getting-closer
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 May 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link
malaysia opened up astrazeneca jabs to volunteers after thousands of people cancelled their registrations (sigh) - signed up for it yesterday and have an appointment on Wednesday!
was on hormonal birth control all throughout my 20s - blood clots don't scare me
― Roz, Monday, 3 May 2021 10:15 (three years ago) link
I'm still not sure what the story is on the Astrazeneca surplus in this town. the vaccination centre is way out of town behind security so not sure anybody who has any chance of picking up the surplus shots could do so anyway. I was told that a lot of people were not turning up for their shots appointments so have wondered.I know other places have had apps for potential shots in practise haven't heard about that here.
― Stevolende, Monday, 3 May 2021 11:20 (three years ago) link
Tens of millions of Americans—including 60 percent of young Republicans—say they'll refuse the COVID vaccine. I spoke to 11 of them. I asked them where their views came from and what might change their minds.Here's what they told me:https://t.co/RUmlsrRE6q— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) May 3, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 May 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link
I know this is still the "mostly political" thread but since the article was shared here, jfc @ this section:
And many others said that perceived liberal overreach had pushed them to the right. “Before March 2020, I was a solid progressive Democrat,” Jenin Younes, a 37-year-old attorney, said. “I am so disturbed by the Democrats’ failure to recognize the importance of civil liberties. I’ll vote for anyone who takes a strong stand for civil liberties and doesn’t permit the erosion of our fundamental rights that we are seeing now.” Baca, the Colorado truck driver, also told me he wasn’t very political before the pandemic, but the perception of liberal overreach has radicalized him. “When COVID hit, I saw rights being taken away. So in 2020, I voted for the first time in my life, and I voted all the way Republican down the ballot.”
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 May 2021 13:46 (three years ago) link
correct - some of your rights were temporarily taken away. this was not a secret
― One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 May 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link
tl; dr?
many people in the US are fucking idiots
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 3 May 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link
“Before March 2020, I was a solid progressive Democrat,” Jenin Younes, a 37-year-old attorney
Why do journalists never check or qualify these kinds of statements?
https://www.aier.org/staffs/jenin-younes/?wpv_view_count=42765-TCPID65373&wpv_paged=2
AIER envisions a world in which societies are organized according to the principles of pure freedom—in which the role of government is sharply confined to the provision of public goods and individuals can flourish within a truly free market and a free society. (...)The fundamental ideas of personal freedom, free markets, private property, sound money, and private governance, have led to a level of prosperity in the US and around the world that is without precedent in human history. Yet the ideologies of socialism and centralization are alive and well today. Markets are routinely villainized in the media, schools, and politics.
(...)
The fundamental ideas of personal freedom, free markets, private property, sound money, and private governance, have led to a level of prosperity in the US and around the world that is without precedent in human history. Yet the ideologies of socialism and centralization are alive and well today. Markets are routinely villainized in the media, schools, and politics.
― rob, Monday, 3 May 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link
(xpost - written just before rob's great post popped up, but I'm leaving it...)
I very, very highly doubt Jenin was actually a "progressive liberal" at any point, but lol @ the thought of someone sitting in March of 2020, when things were still brand new and masks had hardly even become a settled matter, and becoming so incensed that you throw away your entire worldview.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 May 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
ha I'm glad that stood out to you too! dude you're talking to a super hardcore libertarian--a fact I confirmed with a few seconds of searching--maybe a few of her views overlap with the Democratic party's but come on
― rob, Monday, 3 May 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link