That's exactly what it's about.
The transfer market is an interesting thing and i've always thought that could potentially be another flashpoint. It's not 100% clear to me that the current system would stand up to legal scrutiny if there was a concerted push to abolish it from the big clubs. Every time the idea of removing transfer fees has come up, post-Bosman, there has been a negotiated compromise to maintain it.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:09 (five years ago)
Barcelona - Over €600m in debtInter Milan - Over €600m in debtReal Madrid - Over €900m in debtAC Milan - Over €250m in debtMan Utd - Over £400m in debt
this bunch of debauched gambling addicts need an intervention!
― calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:12 (five years ago)
Chelsea’s must be getting on for £1.6bn by now.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:16 (five years ago)
but would Abromovich call that debt in when he get's bored? Our previous "saviour" chairman jumped ship after one season in the prem and took every fucking penny back he'd put in during the last decade.
― calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:19 (five years ago)
I doubt it as there's nobody to actually pay it. The ideas being floated about banning foreign ownership or forcing clubs to sell a 51% stake to fans, etc, would presumably run aground on the debt issue, though. Force Abramovich to sell to a UK owner and they'd end up owing him a completely unsustainable amount of money in perpetuity. Force the Glazers to sell Manchester United and you'd end up paying both for the club and for the debt they used to buy the club, etc.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:23 (five years ago)
Uneasy about debt as a straight figure being a hard measure
We all know that FFP hasnt exactly prevented eg oligarch or oil owners ensuring their clubs meet the required ratio and for all ive no time for levy our debt is a lot more like normal sustainable debt on long term infrastructure owned by the club vs the sugar rush of inflated squad assets hoarded like we see chelsea, city do
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:27 (five years ago)
"Force Abramovich to sell to a UK owner and they'd end up owing him a completely unsustainable amount of money in perpetuity. Force the Glazers to sell Manchester United and you'd end up paying both for the club and for the debt they used to buy the club, etc."
These problems would go away in a communist state.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:34 (five years ago)
Chelsea seem a natural fit for secret police team, yes
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:50 (five years ago)
Nationalisation and randomly assigning clubs to state assets, so you end up with Lokomotiv Liverpool run by British Rail and CSKA Arsenal, controlled by the MoD, would be the most logical solution tbh.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:04 (five years ago)
and Tottenham returned to the Percy family
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:08 (five years ago)
Torpedo Barrow
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:39 (five years ago)
Rumours abound that one or both of chelsea/city will flee and hang the others
Fair genius move if so
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:50 (five years ago)
Babyface turn by the oil bastards, like it
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:54 (five years ago)
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/7/72648/1369650-baby_face.jpg
― calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:56 (five years ago)
"BiB"
"Gold"
Hate to say it of such a fondly remembered character, but that is some Ben Garrison shit right there
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:00 (five years ago)
Patrick Bamford is good now
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:04 (five years ago)
Amazon out
Amazon Prime Video statement on the proposed Super League: pic.twitter.com/FCHc94yDns— Amazon Prime Video Sport (@primevideosport) April 20, 2021
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:14 (five years ago)
Thats levy fucked
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:46 (five years ago)
Have a bevy for old Levy cos old Levy will cry
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:14 (five years ago)
Jose has his slice of the pieDele alli foad
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:16 (five years ago)
Worded openly enough to avoid committing to not showing it.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:17 (five years ago)
If this thing ever gets off the ground you can be sure most of the people criticizing it now will eventually be falling over backwards to get involved in it.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:19 (five years ago)
The criticisms of it, bar the constant membership, dont stack up if you were cheering anything that has happened in football the past few decades is the thing
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:36 (five years ago)
And spurs getting in obv
So, according to the Deloitte Football Money League, Wolves are richer than Milan. As are Sheffield United, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Leicester City and Everton.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:01 (five years ago)
Its a careful blend of historical success, wealth, heritage and spurs
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:03 (five years ago)
tbf Wolves are richer than Milan precisely because of what 'has happened in football in the past few decades'.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:07 (five years ago)
Yep.
Separately, No 10 confirmed that ministers would consider cutting off support for breakaway clubs in areas such as work visas for overseas players and the policing of matches as a way to exert pressure.
The government seems to be realising that there isn't much they can do to stop this so they're looking at the remaining levers they could potentially pull. I don't think the visa one is remotely viable but policing would potentially be at their discretion.
Telling communities 'lol, we're not going to provide any police on match days because your local club has joined the super league' would be...interesting.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:19 (five years ago)
I mean it would make it easier for the clubs to just say ‘sorry legacy fans but it’s not actually safe for you if we play at home so our matches will now sadly have to be in Dubai’ which would be one less job for them to have to think about
― crisp, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:43 (five years ago)
At least we've finally found out why they call them super spurs
― building a hole (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:46 (five years ago)
I mean, fuck the superleague and all, but I'm getting really creeped out by the government's attitude here towards something they don't approve of in the cultural realm - it's not illegal but we'll make it so somehow, dammit. It aint going to be an approach limited to football breakaways either
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:50 (five years ago)
The Red Wall expects nothing less.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:51 (five years ago)
"Don't think much of this uncompromising theatrical indictment of racism in modern britain... maybe lean on the local authority to shut down the theatre lol, use some health and safety shit"
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:56 (five years ago)
I thought Holloway talking about how they are disrespecting the memory of dead Prince Philip was going to be the best super league take from a manager, but there’s something so perfect about Brendan claiming that it’s actually all his fault:“[Leicester’s success] has probably played a part in these developments. Our job was to disrupt the market. I always said ‘what defines the top six?’ Clearly it was money and I tried to disrupt that on the pitch.”
― crisp, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:20 (five years ago)
Tbf Brendan's Leicester winning the Prem was a seismic shift
― Call of Scampi: Slack Nephrops (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:25 (five years ago)
wait did he even reference leicester winning the league a couple of years before he arrived?
xplol
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:25 (five years ago)
The No Leicesters Club
― maybe the beeple would be the times or between clark and hill (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:26 (five years ago)
Never underestimate the ego of Brendan Rodgers.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:34 (five years ago)
Leicester not being a one-season wonder is almost as great an achievement tbf
― imago, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:38 (five years ago)
Chelsea pulling out apparently. Being the first to flee this ship probs a wise move.
― crisp, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:57 (five years ago)
Lol
BREAKING I understand Chelsea are now preparing documentation to request withdrawing from the ESL— Dan Roan (@danroan) April 20, 2021
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:01 (five years ago)
Hope they boot them out of the champions league all the same
― building a hole (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:06 (five years ago)
pic.twitter.com/W1UTC5pdqE— Luke Shaw (@LukeShaw23) April 20, 2021
― building a hole (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:13 (five years ago)
Shaw famously a Chelsea fan as a kid too haha
― imago, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:15 (five years ago)
LOL @ Chelsea having more integrity than Liverpool.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:15 (five years ago)
Man City following now
― calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:22 (five years ago)
Manchester City have withdrawn from the European Super League.Chelsea are also preparing documentation to request withdrawing from the European Super League.More to follow ⤵#bbcfootball— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) April 20, 2021
― building a hole (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:25 (five years ago)
Atleti apparently out too.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:26 (five years ago)
Move to proposed a european 5D chess superleague for these absolute morons
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:31 (five years ago)
iceberg coming early
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:31 (five years ago)