Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

Sure I know, I was looking at the incidence rate myself and thinking “isn’t the pill higher risk than this?”

But yeah, was the first place my mind went to for this reason.

have been thinking a lot about how we basically don't teach the history of vaccinations, and so a lot of the details about these (multiple competing vaccines, different efficacies, distrust) have been lived through in reruns

tbf at the primary public school level we basically don't teach history at all

highly recommend everyone reads eula biss on immunity

Finding it quite impressive that the same people who say no to masks and lockdowns because there's only a miniscule chance of dying from the virus are now up in arms because there's an even smaller chance of having an adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine

highly recommend everyone reads eula biss on immunity

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:45 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Finding it quite impressive that the same people who say no to masks and lockdowns because there's only a miniscule chance of dying from the virus are now up in arms because there's an even smaller chance of having an adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine

Well, you see, one is natural, the other is not. Checkmate, muttonface.

there's an even smaller chance of having an adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine

ha, just put it down to me venting my irrational Covid fears in 2021.

lol at "muttonface" -- is that a common way to disparage sheeple?

Not yet, but it's copyright-free.

thank you pomrade

Poms and sheepfuxors

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I think things are going to go badly in Australia on the one hand you basically have zero chance of catching COVID, on the other you have a vaccine which the government has put almost all its faith in because it can be made in Australia and now it has been linked with a small chance of blood clotting.

There’s already a lot of vaccine hesitantly out there, I can see a lot of people refusing AZ, because they’ll see not taking it as lower risk, and they’ll be right. How this plays out is anyone’s guess, it’s the back of the line for any more Pfizer, no moderna or J&J in the pipeline, so fingers heavily crossed for novavax because that’s the only other one Australia, ordered enough of to cover the population.

Your occasional female interjection to remind non-female posters that oral contraceptives are exponentially more risky for blood clots than the AZ vaccine.

Not convinced that the entire readerbase of the Hun are posting itt.

xpost Also ... covid itself!

on the one hand you basically have zero chance of catching COVID

i don't think it's nuts to hold vaccines to higher safety standards than other drugs. (and in fact that is what is done.) they're given to otherwise healthy people to prevent something that is a possibility not a certainty.

Just like the pill!

A little logy I think, 13 hours post dose 2.

Not convinced that the entire readerbase of the Hun are posting itt.

maybe suzy should have gone directly to Scott

I'm allowing for the possibility that a huge number of vaccine slots are going to open all at once when everyone > 16 y.o. becomes eligible in IL on Monday, but after the last several days of cycling through a half dozen vax appt websites to get the lay of the land and seeing maybe a sum total of three (3) appointments become briefly available within 100 miles of me during that time, I'm beginning to feel like I made a big fucking mistake in waiting my turn like a good boy.

most likely it will continue to be the same case for a while. Once I became eligible, I began stalking the various sites that provided appointments. The one that I had the most luck with was Walgreens, but it still required constant refreshing to finally stumble upon an opening.

Moderna #2 side effects lasted 24 hours for me, almost to the hour.

xpost Deniers and anti-vaxxers aside, that nonsense right there is what's gonna result in a lot of people not getting their jabs.

I have to say, I don't know that I could have predicted what a mass vaccination program in 2021 would have looked like but... this isn't what I would have imagined. I know, from this forum and other places online, that folks are going to mass vax site but there is not one single person in my friend or family circles in Illinois has gotten their shot from of them. It's about 85% Walgreen's/CVS/small pharmacies or events specifically set up at/through their work. I guess I would have anticipated the opposite, that more people would be processed through the mass vax sites than pharmacies.

OL - sending you good luck. Seems like the pattern recently has been more appointments opened up at the end of the work week, so maybe that's when places like Walgreen's and CVS get a better handle on the supply levels.

Iirc the places like Walgreens and CVS were just the first to get vaccines, the mass vax sites (at least in IL) seemed to come some time later. But I have family in Nebraska (well, my wife does), and they got their shots in a stadium several weeks ago. And that's Nebraska. So I think it's just a state by state thing, and variations therein.

I became eligible this past Monday and started scouring the web for appointments at midnight, and again for a couple hours in the morning, only to watch them get gobbled up before I could fill out the form. But I broke through and got a spot at a medical center here, then a text from the state saying I could make an appointment at a mass site. (Which I went with, it was a week earlier than the other one.) So, I was frustrated and bitter like a lot of others are, but in the end it was only a few hours of off-and-on screen refreshing and I was set, hopefully others will have the same experience, if not faster.

I know several people in Chicago who have gone to the United Center mass vax site. Almost all had positive accounts of the experience, with some snarkiness of other patients who were sick of waiting in line/waiting to leave reported.

MN state government is apparently opening a mass site at the state fairgrounds in St. Paul, which seems like an ideal location.

FWIW, I would be fine patiently waiting for something to open up when it opens up if not for the thing where every vaccinated/partially vaccinated person I know is all GET YOUR VAX YET HUH HUH DIDJA DIDJA WHATCHA WAITIN FOR HEY YOU VAXXED YET BRUH GETCHER VAX BRUH YOU GOTTA GET VAXXED.

I'm very happy for every one of you, truly. And I will get my vax at the earliest opportunity. I very much want to join your ranks, believe me. Now please back the entire effing eff off of me, please. My persistent low-level anxiety is positively spiking thanks to this barrage of well-meaning pokes in the side.

although going through a pharmacy website was the quickest path for me, it was really only a matter of a few extra days before opportunities to sign up through local county sites started to appear. At least in Texas, each county has it's own system, and some are better than others. It is probably worthwhile to check out not just your own county, but nearby counties as well, just in case it's administered more effectively there.

yeah but that’s no substitute for the real well-meaning poke in the side, the vaccine

sorry jk

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lol, too true.

Something is up with Walgreens atm, as the Vaxx Max site shows ZERO appointments available for the entire state of IL, which has not been the case at all before today (when there were lots and lots of appointments available, just in places that are like four hours away from me). So I'm crossing my fingers that it's because they're gearing up to make it rain real soon.

Re People nagging folks to get their vaccines, yeah, no shit, that drives me nuts. I have fully vaxxed friends who just got back from Belize, and they and another friend who went kayaking in Florida sent pics to our group chat, tagging it with something like make sure to get your vaccines, guys! And I almost wrote back, fuck you, Im vaccinated, but I'm not boasting about it with a picture of myself boating through another state or jetting off to coral reefs. Besides, some of us, unlike the kayaker in question, still have kids under 16 who can't be vaccinated, which does throw a few things into disarray.

Yeah, we've had two different friends invite us over for a BBQ and a game night, and both were surprised when we passed, "but we're vaccinated". Great, you are, we aren't. Our son isn't. Your kids aren't. Forgive us for not being quite ready to throw caution to the wind.

Gee, I wonder why new cases in IL are higher than they've been in two months...

I liked this, from the best Chapo

really liked this from @willmenaker on COVID scolds and the vaccines in subscriber-only newsletter today. (For more of his chat with @kath_krueger, sign up!) https://t.co/n13kIckidi pic.twitter.com/jmN0ZmH91y

— Jack Mirkinson (@jackmirkinson) April 5, 2021

xpost - Ha, two minutes after I posted that, said friends planning the BBQ just sent out an email scratching the idea, "based on the responses, seems like people aren't quite ready". Glad to know we weren't the only ones pushing back.

Yeah, we've had two different friends invite us over for a BBQ and a game night, and both were surprised when we passed, "but we're vaccinated". Great, you are, we aren't. Our son isn't. Your kids aren't. Forgive us for not being quite ready to throw caution to the wind.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:45 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Gee, I wonder why new cases in IL are higher than they've been in two months...

― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:51 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, with all due respect, no. It's not because vaccinated people are having outdoor BBQs.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/outdoor-transmission-accounts-for-0-1-of-state-s-covid-19-cases-1.4529036

The BBQ is likely safe but ymmv

I'm def not saying anyone should have a BBQ who doesn't feel completely comfortable having one, just saying that is *really* not what is driving spread and clucking at people who do things like that is not productive.

I find that Menaker thing vaguely annoying, like he sees himself (or the person tweeting sees him) as taking a bold stand against "COVID scolds" while... scolding people who are vaccinated but not going to bars -- it's like he has a very very limited notion of what "our lives" might mean.

The issue with this particular BBQ is that they invited about 10 different families, most of which I didn't know at all, much less know enough about to be able to judge the comfort level with how safe I believe them to be. Had been just our vaccinated friends outdoors, I might have considered it.

I feel that if we've gained nothing else from this pandemic, we have at least all gotten much more in touch with and given voice to our inner moral scolds. It's a uniting experience, and if you disagree you should be ashamed of yourself. You should be ashamed. FEEL SHAME.

If anything, I've never felt so little guilt over my deep-rooted misanthropy.

issue with this particular BBQ is that they invited about 10 different families, most of which I didn't know at all, much less know enough about to be able to judge the comfort level with how safe I believe them to be. Had been just our vaccinated friends outdoors, I might have considered it.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), jueves 8 de abril de 2021 12:24 p.m. (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah! That's different.

i’ve expressed this in this thread before but i got very tired of judging ppl and being implicitly brought into an in-crowd of ppl who were singling out others for their carelessness or moral indifference. everyone’s dealing with their own shit, i can just deal with mine

the menaker piece seems annoying but i’m mostly annoyed podcast patreon boy has a subscriber only newsletter, gotta pay to witness these good thoughts