outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-routinely-attacks-pandemic-health-measures-while-implementing-them-its-own-staff

The good news just never stops with this thing.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/health/covid-neurological-psychological-lancet-wellness/index.html

As I've told my wife, there are no 'low risk' ways to catch covid19 and no sure fire ways to avoid it, except zero contact with other humans, which is exceptionally difficult to achieve. You do whatever you can and hope for the best.

The good news just never stops with this thing.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/health/covid-neurological-psychological-lancet-wellness/index.html

― clemenza, Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:47 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

If I might temper this a bit, the headline is extremely sensationalized, but nearly all of the "brain disease" is just garden variety anxiety and mood disorders. And the rates aren't massively higher than the control group. And it's not actually clear that there's a biological link between the disease and the anxiety (gee, you think maybe elevated rates of anxiety might be common during a pandemic?)

Don't know if we already talked about this but it confirms what we (happily) suspected:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/outdoor-transmission-accounts-for-0-1-of-state-s-covid-19-cases-1.4529036?

xp it's a terrible headline. it says 17% of people who survive covid have an anxiety disorder. that's ... pretty much the prevalance in the general population, no?

ha it's actually 19% in the general population, so if anything it seems like people find covid a soothing and calming experience.

The percentage refers to those receiving a diagnosis within 6 months, not the prevalence in the population overall.

Yeah if anything the best comparison would probably be % of people within the non-covid having equivalent population who received a diagnosis during the same time period. Like many of these studies that get blown up in the media, however, it's not properly controlled.

Even that aside, calling anxiety a "brain disease" is highly sensational and misleading. I mean yes, it's a "disease" in the most general sense of the term if it reaches chronic/disorder levels, and yes, it does involve the brain. But there are a lot of potential reasons increased anxiety or mood disorder could be correlated with COVID without having any direct connection to the virus.

Also, who is the control group for people recovering from COVID having anxiety? Who doesn't have anxiety right now?

It’s a cnn dot com article

Apparently no less than 92 variants have been identified in Brazil, where the situation is completely out of control and 100 000 additional deaths are projected by the end of April. Not only is that fucking psychopath Bolsonaro murdering the population of his own country, I'm starting to think he'll get the rest of us killed as well.

never forget:

Jair Bolsonaro is a dangerous populist, with some good ideas https://t.co/hwHnFLbvUI

— The Economist (@TheEconomist) January 3, 2019

jfc

We should always trust an incompetent authoritarian to implement the few good ideas they espouse in public. Like Trump and his big infrastructure ideas. That went wonderfully.

Man that is so sad.

Yup, but tell me again about how Lula and Dilma were "corrupt."

Disappointed to learn that rock critics, either past or present, have not been deemed essential workers.

Hey, take it on over to Rock-Star Journalist Lisa Robinson Has Lived in Her Apartment for 45 Years

If you are in IL and were waiting for eligibility to open up on 4/12, go look for appointments NOW. Tons just opened.

Make u think

Ted Nugent: "Why weren’t we shut down for COVID one through 18?"

COVID-19 is named after the year in which the first infection was reported: 2019. https://t.co/0jDXasC7hk

— Detroit Free Press (@freep) April 12, 2021

I didn't go to see Richard III because I hadn't seen the first two plays

Sacked of henry iv part two because, wait am i doing it right

Got my first (Moderna) shot on Saturday! Almost passed out because it was a needle. Then yesterday afternoon I got SUPER nauseous and couldn’t even sit or lie down without getting the worst spins of my life. I threw up a bunch of times to where I could lie down. Pretty much slept til this morning. Still feeling dizzy and nauseous but it isn’t as bad. Except I’m supposed to work. We’ll see how this goes...

sorry to hear about the nausea - seems to be really hit and miss with everyone! i was mostly ok, my partner got hit hard. (both of us pfizer). and our downstairs neighbors just got J&J and it really knocked them on their ass. feel better soon!

What a read.

“Close to 130 countries containing 2.5 billion people have yet to administer a single dose.” https://t.co/cGsoO9qrAw

— Alex Press (@alexnpress) April 12, 2021

Illustration is pretty good anyway

Will honestly say that at this point, it seems like we're going to be living the way we are right now for the foreseeable future. People are over it and just don't care if others die because the way we deal with death in this fucked-up country is to look the other way and blame the dead person for their own mortality.

(Speaking for the US)

It's not the way I deal with it, and I'm American. Really wish people would stop saying "we" do all this appalling garbage!

If there's a covid truther/anti-mask/freedom/Q protest anywhere within a few hours of me, I'm going to show up and ruin everything for them. that's different for me at least!

Really wish people would stop saying "we" do all this appalling garbage!

In most cases, this kind of "we" should be taken to mean "people who aren't like me, because obviously I know better and am proving it by criticizing the people who are like this".

I know! And I’m starting to take it personally!

Seems a bit... excessive:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7756911/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-stop-used-denmark/

To be fair, I think what table meant by the "we" is that, like it or not, "we" (citizens of the US) are going to be stuck where we are for quite some time because we have so many selfish idiots and anti-vaxxers. I don't think that's disparaging anyone itt or any ilxors to say, because of the actions of others, "we" are all going to be kind of stuck longer than necessary.

As Eric Church might say, that was a cold one.

I think if vaccination rates stall out with a large portion of people refusing them, we will soon see many more people saying "fuck it" and making more aggressive moves back towards regular life regardless.

I'm kind of getting there myself. I'm vaccinated, my family is vaccinated, I've already punted a year+ of my life, I'm gonna start doing shit

anyone got numbers on exactly how much of u.s. society is exactly anti-vaxxer/selfish idiots and how this will ruin vaccination/immunity or is this just ambient dread 4 fun

sorry, i know, thread title

oh wait this is the outbreak thread

Here you go:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/07/984697573/vaccine-refusal-may-put-herd-immunity-at-risk-researchers-warn

new Monmouth University poll:

proportion who say they'll never get covid vaccine if they can avoid it

5% of Democrats
22% of independents
43% of Republicans

— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) April 14, 2021

This is actually down from 24% in their March poll. https://t.co/9sB9n2vF2i

— Ian Sams (@IanSams) April 14, 2021

or is this just ambient dread 4 fun

^ new borad description

I always put on some Lustmord before opening ILX.

USC has a tracking poll on covid stuff that has been running for a year now

https://covid19pulse.usc.edu/

i think there's a good shot we get to the necessary threshold to at least greatly curb the virus to just a nuisance. it's hard to say "herd immunity" when other countries are going to be mega-far away from it, and countries like Brazil are just a breeding grounds for variants. but it'll be enough to re-open some things and do some things. Moderna should have their booster by fall they say.

I doubt we will get to a zero case load ever. it's here to stay. we have to find ways to work around that while ensuring public safety. but it'll eventually be in a weakened state, and of course our immune systems will now begin recognizing it.

sadly I think we will become the Sneetches and life will turn into the Scolds vs the Reckless endlessly fighting until the end of time...which will be 2043, when the Decepticons arrive.

I have a neighbor who says he won't get vaxxed unless you're required to in order to travel. if that's what it takes...

To be clear, I'm not just trying to dredge up "ambient dread" and I wasn't insinuating that we'd never move back to some closer semblance of normal. Just expressing frustration that, while knowing we would never completely eradicate the virus, some combination of selfish and ignorant people are going to keep us from making it even safer for everyone.

You got my meaning earlier, jvc.

I am frustrated but with my partner's job, what I hear in the streets and news, and what I see on social media...all of it points to this being something that is here for a while, and getting used to that and starting to think about risk in that way is something we're all going to have to get more accustomed to.

So at what point do you say that a significant portion of people just aren't getting vaxxed and you go back to living life anyway?