Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

Had a half a Pfizer, didn’t feel anything, so I was like, I should take another one. Classic mistake

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Don't ever mix.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:55 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Moderna before Pfizer, none the wiser

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:04 PM

Pfizer before Moderna, we tried to warn ya.

feel fine after dose 1 of moderna but had a mild allergic reaction about 45 minutes after - swollen throat, numb/tingling lips. nothing benadryl couldn't take care of, but the CDC says if you have a reaction within 4 hours you shouldn't get the second dose.

though i could still hypothetically get a J&J dose apparently

getting my shot in a couple of days, could be any of the 3 US vaccines depending on what they have that time, kinda hoping for J&J just for the downmarket instant gratification vibes

Do you wind up having to stick with the same vaccine that you got first. Like if you do need to get further jabs later do you have enforced brand loyalty.
Like everybody who is reading this 6 months down the line can you let me know now if that is a thing. Hate to find out I've been frozen out of finding my ideal arm mate by the first one that came along.

Yes.

ok, well good to know.
what's it like in 6 months time.
we onto a new pandemic?

https://i.gifer.com/NlAU.gif

Stevolende, most major newspapers have stories about what we can expect.

Bob Wachter's thread from yesterday re fourth surge is worth a look at

1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 383

Perhaps the most confusing time since the start of the pandemic – its easy to be overwhelmed. I’ll try to make sense of some of the key trends, particularly the “4th surge” & vaccines vs variants.

Bottom line: I’m still leaning optimistic.

— Bob Wachter (@Bob_Wachter) April 4, 2021

Got my J&j appointment for April 16 (become eligible on April 15). LA people who become eligible, here’s where I got it: https://lacare.org/members/member-support/health-news-advisories/covid-19/vaccines/clinics (you don’t need to be a member)

had no side effects from pfizer dose number one, except for some very mild arm soreness. my wife was the same, just had some black and blue at the spot of injection.

More good news. Pfizer has the six month update. *Zero* hospitalizations among the vaccinated vs. 32 among the placebo group (n=46,307). Also real life data from South Africa, where B.1.351 is dominant: zero cases of COVID among the vaccinated vs. nine in the placebo (n=800). pic.twitter.com/2mLOh4LlRN

— zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) April 5, 2021

anyone have any data on israel? they have 90% vax rate or somesuch.

The canucks news is bumming me out

24+ hours after Pfizer shot 2, feeling a little under the weather but not terrible - a little achy and tired.

israel deaths (vs US and UK)

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=40..latest&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~ISR~GBR

they're not actually that much lower than countries that are vaccinating slower, but cases fell a lot faster in israel than anywhere else. there are tons of confounding variables (e.g. level of community immunity before vaccination, etc.)

So who in this thread hasn't had a first shot yet?

me

most posters outside the US

hi dere

I have gone so far as to double-checking whether MN restricts vaccination to state residents or not, then called a clinic in Robbinsdale where a friend's mother works because my friend said they'd have a block of appointments open. I have an appointment scheduled for the 9th but it's extremely insane that I would need to travel halfway across the country to get vaccinated.

Had Pfizer #2 on Thursday, easier aftermath than #1 thus far
T minus a couple of weeks to you me and the green wood cemetery forks?

I'm getting my first shot in two hours.

Basically all of this is extreme bullshit that is primarily just keeping me away from my children and at this point I'm going to do whatever I have to to shorten the amount of time I have to wait to see them, and even there I don't know if I can actually have them come to stay with me because the new variants appear to be spreading and they both have asthma.

Nothing yet. I've been offered appointments, but I'm waiting because I feel like other people need it more than me. I barely go out of the house, and when I do I'm masked up and stand as far away from other people as possible. I'm high-risk on paper because I have diabetes, but I'm low-risk because of my behavior and lifestyle. I'll get around to it eventually.

really loving the recent trend of criticizing people for wanting people to wear masks still and accusing them of "not paying attention to the science," when both the CDC (as of February 2021) and many of the existing studies (as of January 2021) still recommend that you do that

When the daily new case count is in the single digits, I'll unmask. Maybe. I really liked not catching a cold this winter!

THe new What The FUP? goes into the science of masks at length as well as other Covid fears.
Quite good so it was.

So who in this thread hasn't had a first shot yet?

― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 April 2021 17:39 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

me

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 17:40 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

most posters outside the US

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 17:41 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Moving the celebratory posts to the KIP covid thread was fairly oblivious from all concerned but in the grander scheme of things we must make allowances i guess

Jon, let me know when you're ready; would love to get you out there.

Dan, sorry you've got to go to extremes to get a jab but happy that you have something lined up before the end of the week!

Unperson, don't do the "I feel like other people need it more than me" thing! Get it done while you can, as soon as you can and get it out of the way! You are part of the public health and it'll do you and us all good to get this taken care of!

Non-US people, sending hopes and double masks your way.

the UK was this big success story, but feels a little like it's just ground to a halt over here.

well I got it in Ireland so that's ok.
12 weeks between shots but guess taht's ok.

Normally hate Stewart Lee’s columns (as a fan of him in general who just hates wacky newspaper columns) but he wrote an alright one recently which made the point that Johnson et al spent the whole pandemic fucking up royally & insisting it was inappropriate to make international comparisons, but as soon as something is going well relative to other places it’s suddenly ok - I wonder if the “lumpy” supply starts to put us on a comparable footing to our neighbour will it suddenly become inappropriate to have league tables again

yeah, plenty of time for the uk to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory yet.

(checks this isn't the kip thread, posts)

the assumption is that at least 30%, possibly more like 40 or 50% of the population of LA county got covid, so this partly the swedish herd immunity maneuver and partly vaccination kicking in. still, v nice.

LA County's coronavirus case numbers have fallen to levels not seen since March 2020 pic.twitter.com/nZhDX84E43

— Soumya (@skarlamangla) April 5, 2021

In the past three months, LA County's daily coronavirus case numbers have fallen 97%, from 14,200 on Jan. 5 to fewer than 400 in late March. Hospitalizations fell 92% in that time period. The number of daily deaths has dropped 96%.

— Soumya (@skarlamangla) April 5, 2021

An old friend appears to have gone full anti-lockdown, anti-mask, anti-vaccine. She even started a medium page that was essentially a listing and description of all of the "research" she's done.

I didn't push back, because she lives in Vancouver, BC, and we moved in similar circles but were never close...still, a little unnerving and disappointing to see.

The thing she made a big deal about was this: https://gbdeclaration.org/

Which...I mean, I heard about this way back when, and it's so easy to dismiss outright because it was sponsored by a Koch-funded libertarian thinktank. And this friend claims to be a leftist anti-capitalist! This whole pandemic is turning some sane people into total loons.

It's such a head-fck. Sorry about your friend tabes, hope it's just a weird blip they need to get out of their system...?

I've not got a vaccine yet, not got much hope of one for ages.

"Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage" ... i have some news for those people

the UK was this big success story, but feels a little like it's just ground to a halt over here.

As discussed before we don't have the luxury of having more vaccine than we know what to do with.

Also, let's not forget we've been pumped full of the cheap bloodclaat vaccine that no-one else will touch with a bargepole.

i am officially eligible for vaccine tomorrow, i think. getting an appointment is another thing.

The bludclaht vaccine that (possibly) affects 1 person in 600,000! Not bad odds, all told.

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Ferguson today said (if it is in fact causal) it seems to be more of a risk in younger recipients - have to think it’s still less of a risk than Covid tho, which also causes clots & can have nasty chronic effects for the young if unlucky

i know i shouldn’t think this way but i’m like.... i got covid a year ago already, so should i really get The Clotter? i know i know

Nah a lot of ppl will be thinking that way. Which... could end up being an issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRvaR4fqrYY

I did get pretty groggy today, like I was walking through molasses. Kids said I sounded weird reading to them. Now feel mostly ok though.

Gah. My wife and I both got the first shot on Saturday at different CVSs, with the second dose already prebooked for three weeks time. She never did the check-in on her phone, thinking the in-store check in would suffice. She was given her vaccine card when it was done. Then she got a text from them yesterday saying "because you missed or cancelled your appointment, we've cancelled your second dose appointment". She tried calling them yesterday and got stuck in call centre/hold hell and there are no appointments available online (I was up at midnight, 1am and 3am to check) to reschedule now. And it seems to be very hard to get a second dose at an NYC-run site, if you got your first dose outside their system.

After all of my neuroses and angst, I was able to make an appointment in MA for this weekend so my insane trip to MN is off