Defenestrate Them All: Canadian Politics 2021

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Is the stable Rick of the Canadian Shield Rick Moranis?

(Hansen and Mercer are disqualified as their origins are from outside the Shield zone)

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:09 (five years ago)

You know what this thread needs? More Amir Attaran:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2021-04-02/l-homme-qui-s-est-mis-a-dos-le-quebec.php

This is as close as we'll get to a villain origin story, it seems.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 12:43 (five years ago)

Fuck an Attaran, but calling Ezra Levant 'a right-wing commentator' without providing further context – especially since francophone audiences are less familiar with the man – is quite the euphemism. I also think the reference to Attaran's wife was uncalled for.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 13:21 (five years ago)

L’Université d’Ottawa, pourtant considérée comme le repaire ultime des wokes

Uh, by whom?

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 14:32 (five years ago)

Isabelle Hachey, duh.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 14:36 (five years ago)

I don't even think it's as woke as Carleton!

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:19 (five years ago)

I doubt she’s ever heard of it tbf.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 16:24 (five years ago)

As a native English speaker with a PhD, I got 5/10 on this quiz from the "Language Portal of Canada" on the use of pronouns in English: https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/en/quiz/jeu-quiz-peaceable-pronouns1-eng

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:17 (five years ago)

That reminds me of a statistic I read one time that 1% of all PhDs were illiterate.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:23 (five years ago)

wow that quiz is insane.I got 7/10 and I strongly object to the supposedly correct answer to number 8

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:24 (five years ago)

As a non-native speaker with a PhD who has a bone to pick with this kind of anal prescriptivism regardless of language, I also got 5/10.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:25 (five years ago)

That reminds me of a statistic I read one time that 1% of all PhDs were illiterate.


Can confirm, have been ILX-ing via text-to-speech and the obverse for years now.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:28 (five years ago)

who is this site possibly intended for? exercises like that are actively harmful for language learners imo

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:30 (five years ago)

got 5/10. I guess I should stop saying I'm fluent in English.

silverfish, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:36 (five years ago)

To get 10/10 you need to be a non-native speaker who learned English through the ‘Language Portal of Canada’.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:40 (five years ago)

the pronoun must agree with the closer antecedent, father

What the fuck?

And because nurses can be male as well as female, the feminine pronoun her does not agree. The right answer is c) the.

Ugh, yes, thank you quiz, I know that nurses can be male, but all of the other questions were priming me to look for possessive pronouns. And what if, in context, I happen to know that all of the student nurses use 'she/her'?

I got 6/10.

jmm, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:50 (five years ago)

Neither the children nor their father had his picture taken.

Why does gender inclusiveness suddenly fly out the window in favour of some obscure antecedent rule here, quiz?

jmm, Friday, 2 April 2021 17:54 (five years ago)

wow that quiz is insane.I got 7/10 and I strongly object to the supposedly correct answer to number 8

exact same. also apparently canada has yet to learn about the singular "they/their".

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:55 (five years ago)

who is this site possibly intended for?

My spouse is preparing to tutor a cousin's kid to get ready for an English board CEGEP in Gatineau - apparently, they linked this site.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:59 (five years ago)

Afaict, it seems to be based on a weird combination of old-fashioned quasi-Strunk & White grammatical prescriptivism with newfangled gender-woke linguistic prescriptivism that ties itself into knots to avoid having to use the singular "they" or "their".

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 18:05 (five years ago)

It’s uncanny.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:06 (five years ago)

yeah combining two terrible prescriptivisms to create a monstrous pedantry. nobody would notice the supposed mistakes in speaking in just about all those example sentences, and many of the wrong sentences would be fine in formal writing as well

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 2 April 2021 18:17 (five years ago)

lol I’m illiterate too.

Kim, Friday, 2 April 2021 19:27 (five years ago)

By the logic of their supposed antecedent rule, you would have to say "neither Jason nor Jennifer got her picture taken". I don't think I've ever heard a native speaker speak like that, nor do I recall seeing that type of construction in writing.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 19:51 (five years ago)

Or does the rule only apply to number? What do they do with gender?

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Friday, 2 April 2021 20:03 (five years ago)

going by the weird dictates of this quiz I would guess: "neither Jason nor Jennifer were one of the people who got their picture taken at the picture-taking location that we neglected to mention in the question part of the quiz"

rob, Friday, 2 April 2021 20:20 (five years ago)

btw I got 9/10 but only because I read y'all's posts first and knew what was going down. Even with that cheat, Q8's "ah, but you see the children are also male" got me

rob, Friday, 2 April 2021 20:22 (five years ago)

Question 8 doesn’t even say that they are male children though, I think? Some of the children could be female, but suddenly no one gives a fuck when the dad is the closest noun. Or something. Probably you all can’t even understand my incorrect sentences.

Kim, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:13 (five years ago)

Sent it to an English lit PhD friend of mine. He’s a native speaker, and he also got 5/10. His ESL wife got 8/10.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:22 (five years ago)

L’Université d’Ottawa, pourtant considérée comme le repaire ultime des wokes

I have three diplomas from Concordia and i'd like a word please

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 April 2021 00:10 (five years ago)

Seriously.

Then again, there was this back in 2015:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/university-ottawa-yoga-cultural-sensitivity-1.3330441

pomenitul, Saturday, 3 April 2021 00:11 (five years ago)

with a BA in English lit, 6/10

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 3 April 2021 00:24 (five years ago)

4/10, this is the hardest I have ever done.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 April 2021 01:15 (five years ago)

It's not like I think Canada is doing an exemplary job, but am I jealous of how the **UNITED STATES** handled / is handling Covid? Jesus christ no.

Btw, I think this is my issue with these kinds of comments I see sometimes making dire comparisons of our vaccination pace to the US's or UK's - vaccinations aren't an end in themselves; they're a response to a problem and part of an overall strategy. Ofc faster would be better but no, I don't think countries with 2x-3x our per capita death rate are better off; they probably do need to be vaccinated sooner.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 14:27 (five years ago)

(Another example, from a National Post writer):

Can now immediately tell Canadians from Americans on my Twitter feed. Americans my age are celebrating their second jab, planning to see friends & redownload dating apps. Canadians of all ages are miserable, heading into a 3rd “lockdown” and losing their minds.

— Sabrina Maddeaux (@SabrinaMaddeaux) April 1, 2021

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 14:36 (five years ago)

(Tbf, an arts/lifestyle reporter)

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 14:40 (five years ago)

I will never understand those who compare Canada with the US or feel jealous that the US has done X-thing better than Canada.

Despite the difficult ties and times the US gov't has bullied the Canadian gov't, I'm thankful the US is seeing a decline in Covid cases and is sending more vaccines to Canada. This can only be a good thing for neighbouring countries, especially ones that are bound to each other like the US and Canada.

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 3 April 2021 17:42 (five years ago)

im extremely jealous of americans rn

flopson, Saturday, 3 April 2021 18:23 (five years ago)

Same tbh. Doesn't have to be 100% rational.

pomenitul, Saturday, 3 April 2021 18:24 (five years ago)

I totally understand. I think there is a lot of jealousy and anger going around in Canada. There is a reason we are where we're at. Whatever happened to mandatory face coverings? The mandate was clearly not being followed enough, despite so many people saying they were. At least in BC, we can no longer use care homes as a scapegoat.

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 3 April 2021 18:36 (five years ago)

americans had it worse over the course of the pandemic and i don't envy them for that (they're currently at 0.15% of the population dead from covid vs 0.06% for us) but seeing them go full buckwild this summer will be rough

flopson, Saturday, 3 April 2021 21:59 (five years ago)

Being able to do everything from my apartment has mostly been pretty sweet tbh.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 22:06 (five years ago)

ya there's a non-insignificant portion of the population who will mourn the end of the coziness FOMO-less homebody pandemic. not me tho

flopson, Saturday, 3 April 2021 22:19 (five years ago)

I have heard so many horror stories from the US, I am just glad they can celebrate.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 April 2021 22:56 (five years ago)

Ottawa Medical Officer warning about outdoor transmission now, calls downthread for social distancing even outdoors:

Ottawans, we moved into the Red zone as COVID-19 levels were rising 2 wks ago + the curve has only worsened. 2 weekends ago we had lovely weather + a lot of socializing. I am seeing many people test positive after being in groups at restaurants, with transmission even outdoors.

— Dr. Vera Etches (@VeraEtches) April 4, 2021

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Sunday, 4 April 2021 22:10 (five years ago)

MUST WATCH

Dr. Michael Warner walks us through the story of one patient.

A woman in her 40s who got Covid. Earlier today he fought to save her life.

But before the day ended Covid stole her from us.

Please listen to @drmwarner share his anger and heartbreak. pic.twitter.com/LzreBOxwrS

— Natasha Fatah (@NatashaFatah) April 4, 2021

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Sunday, 4 April 2021 22:50 (five years ago)

no thx

flopson, Monday, 5 April 2021 00:11 (five years ago)

i feel like telling people not to meet up outdoors could backfire

flopson, Monday, 5 April 2021 00:16 (five years ago)

Peel schools are going online for two weeks--or one, with the second week the scheduled break.

I'm getting supply work where I live now, so personally, it probably won't affect me--I'll get in my 50 days if the schools here stay open. But who knows anymore.

The thing I don't get is that I thought it was the government's call, not the boards; I would have thought Toronto would have been in lockstep, but only Peel has made an announcement. With the break coming up, the timing is bizarre--virtually nothing will be accomplished in the next four days. Should have happened three or four weeks ago; they may as well take a two-week break at this point. And if they know they're going online for the rest of the year, announce it now.

All of which is easy for me to say. I don't think they have any idea. They're just making it up as they go along.

clemenza, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:35 (five years ago)

Been reading some things and perhaps there is good evidence for concern about co2 levels after all (so my bad for being dismissive). Unfortunately it’s related to evidence of genuine airborne transmissibility (vs droplet) though that being still controversial after a full year baffles me.

There does seem to be frustration from the doctors and medical officers that they prefer we not close schools, but it becomes necessary where the vaccine rollout isn’t yet reaching the workplaces and populations that are the actual primary vectors. Sounds like they want a lot more targeting than we are getting.

Kim, Monday, 5 April 2021 21:58 (five years ago)


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