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Seriously, who the fuck is Jensen Karp? Is this like when Black people talk about Morris Chestnut?

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:49 (five years ago)

He had a podcast?

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:50 (five years ago)

So… yes

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:50 (five years ago)

He also runs this art gallery or used to

https://nineteeneightyeight.com/pages/current-west

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:53 (five years ago)

white people in north america should not be allowed to name their own children

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:54 (five years ago)

What’s the window on caring about Boy Meets World or drama involving anyone from it - people born 1983 to 1987?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:55 (five years ago)

and then this
https://twitter.com/search?q=milkshake%20duck

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:56 (five years ago)

i kinda feel like this is something whiney would be talking about

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:57 (five years ago)

that first hot karl explainer video is a perfect storm of 2000s horribleness

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:59 (five years ago)

What’s the window on caring about Boy Meets World or drama involving anyone from it - people born 1983 to 1987?

I think goes into the '90s. Seems like I know a bunch of younger millennials who went apeshit when it hit streaming.

Of course, the weirdest thing about the show is that Maitland Ward (the secondary actress in later episodes) has become a pretty huge porn star.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 23:07 (five years ago)

What’s the window on caring about Boy Meets World or drama involving anyone from it - people born 1983 to 1987?


This made me lol as I’m 1982 and my exact relationship with this show is that my peers even a year younger than me all seemed to know and love it but it was just after my time. Wasn’t in the afternoon lineup yet when I was gorging on syndicated Full House and Family Matters after school.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 25 March 2021 00:49 (five years ago)

Not to be Capn-Save-a-General-Mills but like...what plant is processing cereal and shrimp at the same time?

frogbs, Friday, 26 March 2021 00:11 (five years ago)

I was thinking disgruntled worker at first, but the company claims those "shrimp tails" are actually just clumps of the coating that formed in the manufacturing process. Looking at the picture again I can believe this.

nickn, Friday, 26 March 2021 00:58 (five years ago)

oh shit

UPDATE: we killed the shrimp guy. He was blended and is now in every box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

— Cinmamon Toast Crunch (@holyduck) March 24, 2021

frogbs, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:27 (five years ago)

does this mean that, at the end, he had a blended haircut

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Friday, 26 March 2021 13:38 (five years ago)

lol, but I only saw this after buying a box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch Churros on sale at Walgreen's. I have no idea who those people are either ... though I had heard of the gallery and in my mind it is somewhere in the historical progression from high art to NFTs

sarahell, Friday, 26 March 2021 13:48 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

In light of the reporting on Scott Rudin, I am thinking a lot about this interview I did in 2017 with Steven Soderbergh. In it, he said that when he talks to students, part of the discussion is about running a humane set. https://t.co/eto1u8pqc0 pic.twitter.com/HjpVOLPsTS

— MZS (@mattzollerseitz) April 10, 2021

Scott Rudin story (huge temper, volatile, no sexual harassment, classic “lol Ari Gold” material):

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/everyone-just-knows-hes-an-absolute-monster-scott-rudins-ex-staffers-speak-out-on-abusive-behavior

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Saturday, 10 April 2021 16:16 (five years ago)

I mean, fkn SPY reported on Rudin 30 years ago. This is not a breaking story.

disclaimer: back in the 90s I worked briefly in the offices of both Rudin and equally famed bully Lynda 0bst. Good times. It was no secret.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 April 2021 22:54 (five years ago)

The THR article cites several other reported pieces, as well as the 1994 film Swimming With Sharks. It is not pretending to break the story.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:30 (five years ago)

I mean, fkn SPY reported on Rudin 30 years ago. This is not a breaking story.

Neither was Weinstein having a rep.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:38 (five years ago)

I just saw somewhere that the Weinstein-inspired Law & Orderverse ep w/Jeff Garlin as HW is over 10 years old.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:14 (five years ago)

love the 'oh, this is news to you? *i* always knew better' response

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:48 (five years ago)

go on. I’d love to know what the story is here beyond “known asshole remains asshole.”

is it that the industry still tolerates all sorts of cruelty? is it that the streaming revolution has shaken up previous hierarchies sufficiently that people feel more empowered to speak out? is it that a new generation is coming up that might do things differently? is it that Rudin’s weak enough now that this can be said out loud in the trades?

MZS tweet says more than the THR piece does.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 04:47 (five years ago)

so i guess you were there first? and did nothing? kudos?

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 April 2021 05:18 (five years ago)

If any reporter or screenwriter ever writes about humans, corporations or governments doing bad things, nobody must ever report on those subjects again, especially if they continue to do the same bad things for decades

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 11 April 2021 06:44 (five years ago)

not going to bother responding seriously.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 14:01 (five years ago)

Followup piece on Rudin:

https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/scott-rudin-abusive-behavior-allegations-career.html

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:07 (five years ago)

Looks like Jackman did have a word: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/17/theater/scott-rudin-steps-away-from-broadway.html

(sourced from the slightly less sceptical)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 17 April 2021 18:38 (five years ago)

"Why Some Hollywood Execs Are Hoping for Scott Rudin to Return":

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/scott-rudin-claims-some-execs-are-hoping-for-scott-rudin-to-return

33 Rudin assistants interviewed:

https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/scott-rudin-as-told-by-his-assistants.html

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 09:52 (five years ago)

Meanwhile at Jake Paul's influencer "collab house," bullying, wage theft, racist abuse and sexual assault:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/style/jake-paul-team-10.html

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 09:58 (five years ago)

lol at scott-rudin-claims-some-execs-are-hoping-for-scott-rudin-to-return

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:15 (five years ago)

"Some Execs Are Rudiner Than Others"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:26 (five years ago)

why ya gotta be so Rudin

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:29 (five years ago)

some execs' mothers are Rudiner other execs' mothers

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:40 (five years ago)

Chabon lengthily acknowledging his two-decade complicity:

https://michaelchabon.medium.com/apology-of-a-rudin-apologist-85bec4879119

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 24 April 2021 05:43 (five years ago)

English actor, writer/director and producer Noel Clarke thoroughly #MeToo-ed in the Guardian, with 20 accusers so far, and comments suggesting this is the tip of an iceberg. His and his lawyers' statements to the paper, and phone calls to women they suspected of being sources, are flashing neon signs, too.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:48 (five years ago)

More anecdotes and statements about Clarke have continued to come out, such as this from the London School Of Dramatic Art.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 01:17 (five years ago)

can we not use “#me-tooed” when the article doesn’t say that, and it’s used as a shorthand by conservative pundits as a way to say “this person is a victim of mob action and he probably did nothing wrong”?

mh, Sunday, 2 May 2021 01:52 (five years ago)

sorry, you said “#metoo-ed”

mh, Sunday, 2 May 2021 01:53 (five years ago)

I still think of it as a righteous reckoning, apologies if anyone reading has converted to reading it otherwise.

(I'm personally inclined to not surrender useful language to those who deliberately try and divert it - it's certainly easy to tell when people are using "woke" sincerely, vs gammons steaming their hamheads about "wokery" and "gwgb" - but will be cautious around that one.)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 02:56 (five years ago)

fwiw, i also read "me-too'd" as shorthand for "Caught" and not much else

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:01 (five years ago)

(The fact that so many women were able to say "me too" when told that others had spoken to the reporters, and more did so in response to the article about the first 20 dropping, supported the value of the phrase imo)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:24 (five years ago)

can we not use “#me-tooed” when the article doesn’t say that, and it’s used as a shorthand by conservative pundits as a way to say “this person is a victim of mob action and he probably did nothing wrong”?


Otm, am always deeply uneasy at this use

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 2 May 2021 07:54 (five years ago)

I think it's probably tactically useful to tie it to "remember that time when we decided this wasn't okay (and that time a bit later when we remembered that we decided that again)" - I agree it's not useful to over-consider conservative media's smearing of terms (or there'd be no BLM or Antifa).

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 2 May 2021 08:23 (five years ago)

the hashtag as a verb is best avoided unless you want to sound like kanye

Left, Sunday, 2 May 2021 08:51 (five years ago)

Mh’s explanation is useful, but I’d add to it. The term puts the focus on the person being accused and inverts the actors and victims in a really perverse way, to the point that it flattens out the actual happening(s) and the pain caused by it(people talking about what has happened to them) to this very cynical sort of “so and so got targeted by these accusations”. It’s a really unhelpful term at best and I’d encourage those of you determined to use it who you think you’re doing it for.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 2 May 2021 08:52 (five years ago)

*to ask who you think, gah

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 2 May 2021 09:02 (five years ago)

I'd see the focus being switched to the accused as a good thing though, it takes it as read that there's a preponderance of accounts against him and short-circuits any he-said-she-said.

I mean, I'll be happy if and when it gets to the point where a single accuser has more weight than the accused, but the power imbalance in the stories itt suggests that'll take more than parity.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 2 May 2021 09:37 (five years ago)

Four women sexually harassed and bullied by Clarke on the set of Dr Who, before he began writing/directing/producing, have also given accounts to the Guuardian. His legal responses continue to be persuasive.

...another former runner on Doctor Who alleges Clarke sexually harassed her and another female coworker in a bar at the Holland House Hotel in the mid-2000s in Cardiff, following a work event. When the women rejected Clarke’s advances, she alleges, he became “rude” and “aggressive”. The following day, she said Clarke spread false rumours about both women on set.

Clarke strongly denied the allegation. His lawyers said there would have been no real need or purpose for him to be in the hotel bar because he does not drink.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 7 May 2021 22:58 (five years ago)


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