Beware the Ides of March -- U.S. Politics March 2021

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and the current administration is fairly conservative

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:20 (five years ago)

puerto rico would likely be a swing state, and republicans who are staunchly opposed to its joining the union are doing a racism of their own

voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:27 (five years ago)

biden is already on record as supporting dc statehood

DC should be a state. Pass it on. https://t.co/xUJ1sud76f

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 25, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:43 (five years ago)

considering DC is the most reliable Democratic voting entity -- it's like, well hello buttered side of the bread

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

seems to me the first and most urgent way of approach this major new "tax hike" on the rich would be to just... undo the Trump tax cuts on the rich. and the Bush ones too.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:55 (five years ago)

it a) looks better and b) could be more effective to actually design new & simple taxes

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:57 (five years ago)

meanwhile, DC residents are something like 85% in favor. Also, DC residents pay taxes that PR residents don’t. DC should get to go first.

This and subsequent arguments are good, but also fuck it, just get both done at once. Don't waste money redesigning the flag twice.

And brand this DC reinvention as The New 52, that always works.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:59 (five years ago)

http://danbliss.blogspot.com/2011/11/51-star-flag.html

52 is definitely better than 51 here

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:03 (five years ago)

the argument from design suggests we need to jump right to 54 states.

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:06 (five years ago)

Or they could not change a thing and just tell people there are 51 stars.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:07 (five years ago)

also alphabetical order

American Samoa would like a word with you, President Keyes.

Guam says we're cool, though

vaya con carne (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:08 (five years ago)

It's not really up to anyone except Puerto Ricans to decide, tbqh.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:48 (five years ago)

Of the ~20 or so Puerto Ricans I know, none of them want statehood and curse the US every chance they get.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:48 (five years ago)

(Of course, that's a small sample size and I'm friends with them, so yknow, echo chamber stuff)

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:49 (five years ago)

Of the ~20 or so Puerto Ricans I know, none of them want statehood and curse the US every chance they get.

Sounds like Texas

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:52 (five years ago)

are they in Puerto Rico?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:53 (five years ago)

btw, if I understand it correctly, the COVID relief bill included a provision that removed one big obstacle to student debt forgiveness, viz. normally a forgiven debt is considered taxable income. under the relief bill already passed and signed by Biden, this requirement would be waived until 2026, if student debt forgiveness moves forward in some form.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:57 (five years ago)

that is correct. was very happy to hear that made it in. i hope they can move on it soon

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:02 (five years ago)

it depends on the debt ... there was precedent with the mortgage crisis and foreclosures.

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:09 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/6ibK5aV.jpg

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:37 (five years ago)

oh

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:43 (five years ago)

This is the central role of the media now, just to verify that things and people exist.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:47 (five years ago)

(a thankless job tbh)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:47 (five years ago)

Picture of turd in White House toilet is real; awaiting DNA result on whether it's Biden's

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:56 (five years ago)

This is the central role of the media now, just to verify that things and people exist.

and if it's the wrong channel, they still don't believe it. i watched a guy on a ted cruz twitter thread refuse to believe that a video of ted cruz saying horrible shit was what he actually said, because it was on msnbc

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:03 (five years ago)

This is why I’m not too worried about deepfakes

rob, Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:11 (five years ago)

I’m not sure how much more clearly the people of Puerto Rico can indicate that they want statehood. If you believe in democracy, well, a majority of them voted for it in 2020. Like, what more do you want? How many more elections do you need to see?

Dan I., Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:31 (five years ago)

And yeah, if you’re a person of Puerto Rican descent who doesn’t live in Puerto Rico, your opinion doesn’t really count any more than mine does.

Dan I., Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:32 (five years ago)

pretty sure my opinion counts less than a person of Puerto Rican descent or a resident of Puerto Rico ...

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:44 (five years ago)

everyone's opinion counts exactly the same. unless you're rich, it's jack shit

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:44 (five years ago)

ok, upon my very first thought, that's not true

gonna play portal 2 now in HD

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:45 (five years ago)

The point is that Cubans in Miami don’t get to set policy for Cuba, and Puerto Ricans in NYC don’t get to set policy for Puerto Rico, any more than I get to set policy for Norway.

Dan I., Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:46 (five years ago)

kinda feel like the hierarchy goes like:

citizens of Puerto Rico
former Puerto Rico residents
people who have never lived in Puerto Rico but have family there
Jeff Bezos
Joe Biden
white male American ILXors who post on the US politics thread
MSNBC content providers
people who bought Puerto Rican influenced food in the past month in Chicago
me
racist Trump supporters

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:49 (five years ago)

the comparison between these groups is not exactly equivalent as US voters do indeed have more of a direct impact on Puerto Rico than Cuba or Norway. Also, while the opinions of Puerto Ricans is the number one factor to take into account, I'd argue it isn't the only one, as a bunch of non-Puerto Ricans have to vote on it.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:51 (five years ago)

The hierarchy is:
Citizens of Puerto Rico


That’s it.

Dan I., Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:51 (five years ago)

And the questions of whether Puerto Rico wants to be a state and whether the US will admit Puerto Rico as a state are categorically distinct, obviously.

Dan I., Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:53 (five years ago)

xpost thanks sarahell it's really nice to be included in the process

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 23:54 (five years ago)

seems like some politicians have some thoughts on this topic

Puerto Rico can no longer be treated like a colony. The people of Puerto Rico deserve the right to decide their own future, and have their voicesĀ heard. https://t.co/Xzg0PnzHOQ

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) March 18, 2021

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 19 March 2021 00:26 (five years ago)

I don’t see why he gets any say in who gets a say

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 March 2021 00:27 (five years ago)

Cubans are honorary boricuas to them

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 March 2021 00:30 (five years ago)

Reminded me of this analysis from last fall. There's no certainty Puerto Rico would be blue.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/09/puerto-rico-statehood-politics-democrats-republicans-senate-409191

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:05 (five years ago)

quality politicking:

Sen. @RandPaul: "If we're not spreading the infection, isn't it just theater? You have the vaccine and you're wearing two masks, isn't that theater?

Dr. Anthony Fauci: "Here we go again with the theater. Let's get down to the facts."

Full video here: https://t.co/61RnSUvayG pic.twitter.com/xDWnCuFjjO

— CSPAN (@cspan) March 18, 2021

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:17 (five years ago)

Theatre is having a fake board certification in opthalmology

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:20 (five years ago)

http://danbliss.blogspot.com/2011/11/51-star-flag.html

52 is definitely better than 51 here

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:03 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

There are other 51-star designs. Namely:
https://preview.redd.it/3ftk3h2wtko51.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=3992f80c70c289789a10ebb92004a40ccdda3192

jaymc, Friday, 19 March 2021 01:30 (five years ago)

The old SB/FP flag

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:35 (five years ago)

That is a literal flag post

vaya con carne (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:48 (five years ago)

kinda feel like the hierarchy goes like:

citizens of Puerto Rico
former Puerto Rico residents
people who have never lived in Puerto Rico but have family there
Jeff Bezos
Joe Biden
white male American ILXors who post on the US politics thread
MSNBC content providers
people who bought Puerto Rican influenced food in the past month in Chicago
me
racist Trump supporters

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Invisible_Man_%281952_1st_ed_jacket_cover%29.jpg

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 19 March 2021 02:08 (five years ago)

kinda feel like the hierarchy goes like:

citizens of Puerto Rico
former Puerto Rico residents
people who have never lived in Puerto Rico but have family there
Jeff Bezos
Joe Biden
white male American ILXors who post on the US politics thread
MSNBC content providers
people who bought Puerto Rican influenced food in the past month in Chicago
me
racist Trump supporters

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Invisible_Man_%281952_1st_ed_jacket_cover%29.jpg

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 19 March 2021 02:08 (five years ago)

dammit phone

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 19 March 2021 02:08 (five years ago)

^ omits mention of vast numbers of women in any category above racist Trump supporters. sounds about right.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Friday, 19 March 2021 02:41 (five years ago)


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