how bad were the seizure like body shakes?
i had everything *but* that in your description above.
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 20:48 (five years ago)
xxp, but I'm telling you 1) you're wrong. you're not interpreting the full set of information you're getting correctly. 2) publicly posting stuff that is wrong about public health is harmful, so i'm going to keep correcting you.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:00 (five years ago)
At the same time I think it could be harmful to continually insist that every adult will be vaccinated by summer when that is not yet a given?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:02 (five years ago)
you should tell that to the president.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:04 (five years ago)
(who has a record of downplaying expectations on vaccination rates, btw.)
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
yah if anything Biden's conservatism about predictions has saved his ass
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:07 (five years ago)
Yeah, I know what he's said. But having a stockpile large enough to accommodate every adult American /= getting those shots into every one of those arms on the same timeframe.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:08 (five years ago)
jon. stop.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:09 (five years ago)
"how bad were the seizure like body shakes?"no pain, about five minutes and done, in concert with the chills - shivering uncontrollably like I was freezing
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:13 (five years ago)
The US is currently third in the world in vaccines per capita, by the by
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:13 (five years ago)
In Syracuse today, @SenSchumer indicates federal government is aiming to take over the vaccination process.β...They will remove all these requirements and people can just line up and get the vaccines.βI have Senβs full quote below and will have more on this on @News_8 at 5 pic.twitter.com/j346jUrWSj— Jack Watson (@JackWatsonTV) March 9, 2021
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:15 (five years ago)
end federalism
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:18 (five years ago)
caek - let's take a step back and set aside my local concerns and my pessimism for a second, because I fear we are talking about different things and I'd like to at least set myself straight on what you mean. this is what Biden said last week:
"We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May," Biden said, crediting his administration's efforts to boost production and moving up the timeline from the end of July, which is what the president was saying just a few weeks ago.
I believe him. The US will have enough supply for every adult in America by the end of May. Okay. However, I have never seen him promise that all of that supply will be distributed and into arms by the end of May, yet that appears to be what you keep insisting is true. Am I wrong?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:18 (five years ago)
that's fair. you are technically correct that biden made a claim about supply not delivery.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:24 (five years ago)
distribution is going really badly in my state and we have the worst governor who just held a press conference to announce he is reopening everything, but somehow i am managing not to assume that it will stay that way as supply increases and the federal government gets more involved. i think i will be vaccinated by july. i am the most pessimistic person i know irl. can you stop doomposting? it's not helping anything and it's not going to stay this way.
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:27 (five years ago)
ALright, fair. I'm just going to step away from ilxor for now.
But in my defense, I will say that I'm not just making this shit up whole cloth. My pessimism is fed by the pessimism my local leaders are sending me. I'd prefer to feel more optimism from our elected officials, undoubtedly.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:31 (five years ago)
Let's see how (for example) the mass vaccination at the United Center goes. But if they can pull that off - 6,000 a day, at one location, Chicago residents only iirc - that kind of rate easily gets us to everyone vaccinated (if they want to be) by summer, as long as the supply is indeed there
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:32 (five years ago)
I just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. Really impressed by how smooth and well managed the process was (aside from signing up which was a minor shitstorm)
― eisimpleir (crΓΌt), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 22:09 (five years ago)
Nice! I was impressed as well. It was a large-scale operation but very smooth. I kept wanting to thank all the people staffing it, but they moved us through so quickly I often didn't have time.
― Lily Dale, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 22:14 (five years ago)
I understand that we recently had a big fight about judging people who travel during a pandemic and of course there are reasonable, understandable, and justifiable reasons why one might do so, but can we all agree that these two should be loaded into a cannon and fired into the sun?
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/vacation-with-stranger/index.html
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 15:40 (five years ago)
Immediately if not sooner.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 15:50 (five years ago)
I will honestly say that the FEMA-run vaccination center in Philadelphia was pretty incredible. They were really moving people throughβ I think the whole process took about 45 minutes or so, and for a federal program in Philadelphia, that's miraculous. It takes years to get potholes filled.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 16:56 (five years ago)
I've been volunteering at a vaccine distribution center, and it's honestly so well run and organized. I'm not used to seeing that in this country.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 17:20 (five years ago)
yeah but Reagan!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 17:23 (five years ago)
Supply seems to really be opening out in nyc now. We have been checking turbo vax for about a week but all of a sudden there were a bunch of appointments that didnβt immediately disappear like phantoms. Getting it tomorrow afternoon in downtown Brooklyn.
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:09 (five years ago)
Got my first dose! Fast and easy, so far so good, no discomfort or other symptoms.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:43 (five years ago)
Online preregistration for Washington DC, as of this morning, was remarkably smooth. (I hadn't even tried getting an appointment through DC.gov, but by most accounts "clusterfuck" was the term). So now to wait....
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:45 (five years ago)
Good way to think about it:
COVID Vaccination Update: 1 in 4 adults in the U.S. have now received their first vaccine.— Andy Slavitt (@aslavitt46) March 10, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:51 (five years ago)
"They also had concerns as to whether I should go on vacation with a total stranger. But they trusted my judgment; I trusted my judgment," she adds.
why
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:39 (five years ago)
Our neighbor got her 2nd shot this morning, and was so wiped out when she got home she couldn't get out of her car; had to call 911 and someone from Fire & Rescue came to help her out of her van and into the house. (She has existing mobility issues.)
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:45 (five years ago)
got jabbed
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:59 (five years ago)
awesome!
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 21:01 (five years ago)
Ha, my next door neighbors also went to Turkey over New Year's. While they were there, the COVID test they took at O'Hare came back with a false positive for one of them, but then they had to quarantine for an extra week before they could come back. In separate hotel rooms, which is ridiculous because they're a couple and were together anyway. And we had to shovel their corner sidewalks for another 8 days.
Apparently they've logged at least 50 flights in the last year. But y'know, everyone makes their choices. And they haven't actually gotten COVID afaik.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 21:01 (five years ago)
we should have special threads where only vaccinated people can post
― lukas, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 21:07 (five years ago)
I'm OK with the way things are now, as long as everyone is wearing a mask.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:08 (five years ago)
Congrats Brad!
That 1/4 statistic is very heartening; it was only a couple of weeks ago that my cousin told me 1/4 of adults in AK had gotten the vaccine, and at the time that seemed amazing and out of reach for the rest of the country.
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:08 (five years ago)
In terms of immunity I would guess weβre at 50% if not more.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:14 (five years ago)
You mean including people who have had it? I think the US has officially had around 29 million cases, and so far 62.5 million vaccinations (at least the first shot), so probably less than 50%, right? But climbing!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:30 (five years ago)
the general consensus is that the actual number of cases is ~2-3x the number of positive tests
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:32 (five years ago)
Could be! But I think there is no general consensus on how long immunity lasts, right? Especially based on getting it. So if you had covid in, say, February of 2020, are you still immune?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:39 (five years ago)
True, and Iβm assuming people whoβve had one shot are at least temporarily immune. So 50ish per cent seems ball park ish.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:42 (five years ago)
an you stop doomposting? it's not helping anything and it's not going to stay this way.
β superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, March 10, 2021 8:27 AM (yesterday)
btw appresh everyone countering jvc's concerns, but there's only one reason why this is the wrong thread for him to vent his irrational COVID-19 fears and experiences in 2021
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:00 (five years ago)
yes this is the doomer thread so he should be allowed his doomposting.
im looking at the US and UK with envy currently, for the first time during COVID.
― himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:05 (five years ago)
Question: can a grocery store or something in TX still insist on masks even if the Gov has killed the mandate?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:14 (five years ago)
yes
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:14 (five years ago)
this just means the order doesn't come from the Governor anymore, it comes from the store, who is much easier to defy of course
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:15 (five years ago)
I was gonna say, probably makes for some "K-Mart Karen" incidents to be caught on phones
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:18 (five years ago)
it gets worse of course
This week, after Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) said Tuesday that he would rescind the statewide mask mandate while the vast majority of residents remain unvaccinated, the tough choice to enforce public health guidance fell to business owners, and Picos announced it would continue requiring masks. But, after such a challenging year, the reaction to their decision was disheartening, co-owner Monica Richards said: Several people sent hateful messages through social media and called the restaurant, threatening to report staffers to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/06/mexican-restaurant-mask-mandate-ice-threat/
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:23 (five years ago)
also this - now granted risk of spread is far less outdoors, but....still don't think this is a good idea whatsoever
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/texas-rangers-plan-to-allow-full-capacity-of-fans-for-2021-mlb-opening-day/
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:24 (five years ago)
Every place Iβve been inside was still requiring masks and everyone was agreeably wearing one but I anticipate that getting less and less common over the next few weeks as people get lazier and more forgetful.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 23:31 (five years ago)