Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

jon, i've read your pots about your local situation. but i'm going to keep saying this every time you post like that just so anyone lurking doesn't think it's correct: if you an adult and you live in the US it's very, very likely you will be able to get vaccinated before the summer.

i've read your pots

https://images.app.goo.gl/kGmYKxbLQgMZc6hk6

Those of you with the second jab under, say, 55: any debilitating side effects? My second jab is on the morning before a road trip.

I got messed up for a couple of days from the second Moderna shot (no problems on the first) - nausea, exhaustion, abdominal cramps, and an outbreak of chills and seizure-like full body shakes at 3am, 18 hours after the jab. But no-one else I know who got done the same day had that degree of reaction.

Have you had any problems with past vaccinations or things of the sort? I've also heard that younger people are more likely to have adverse reactions than older people, fwiw.

Nope. I've also heard that the younger you are, the likelier the side effects. My parents, both over 65, experienced at worst mild fatigue for a few hours.

xpost - I mean, we'll see.

Ultimately, I'm just really struggling with the huge gulf between the optimism and hope we're hearing from national leaders and the Biden administration and the bleak, downright doom and gloom from local politicians. I've no doubt my mood would be different were the emails filling my inbox lacking in statements like "we have not yet been presented with an implementation plan and corresponding vaccines to carry out this objective." I mean, my innate pessimism is one thing, but when this is the messaging your local leaders are sending out in March 2021, it's not hard to see why one might be skeptical and gloomy.

Nah, I don't usually - sometimes an afternoon of feeling a flu shot slightly, sometimes no.

how bad were the seizure like body shakes?

i had everything *but* that in your description above.

xxp, but I'm telling you 1) you're wrong. you're not interpreting the full set of information you're getting correctly. 2) publicly posting stuff that is wrong about public health is harmful, so i'm going to keep correcting you.

At the same time I think it could be harmful to continually insist that every adult will be vaccinated by summer when that is not yet a given?

you should tell that to the president.

(who has a record of downplaying expectations on vaccination rates, btw.)

yah if anything Biden's conservatism about predictions has saved his ass

Yeah, I know what he's said. But having a stockpile large enough to accommodate every adult American /= getting those shots into every one of those arms on the same timeframe.

jon. stop.

"how bad were the seizure like body shakes?"

no pain, about five minutes and done, in concert with the chills - shivering uncontrollably like I was freezing

The US is currently third in the world in vaccines per capita, by the by

In Syracuse today, @SenSchumer indicates federal government is aiming to take over the vaccination process.

“...They will remove all these requirements and people can just line up and get the vaccines.”

I have Sen’s full quote below and will have more on this on @News_8 at 5 pic.twitter.com/j346jUrWSj

— Jack Watson (@JackWatsonTV) March 9, 2021

end federalism

caek - let's take a step back and set aside my local concerns and my pessimism for a second, because I fear we are talking about different things and I'd like to at least set myself straight on what you mean. this is what Biden said last week:

"We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May," Biden said, crediting his administration's efforts to boost production and moving up the timeline from the end of July, which is what the president was saying just a few weeks ago.

I believe him. The US will have enough supply for every adult in America by the end of May. Okay. However, I have never seen him promise that all of that supply will be distributed and into arms by the end of May, yet that appears to be what you keep insisting is true. Am I wrong?

that's fair. you are technically correct that biden made a claim about supply not delivery.

distribution is going really badly in my state and we have the worst governor who just held a press conference to announce he is reopening everything, but somehow i am managing not to assume that it will stay that way as supply increases and the federal government gets more involved. i think i will be vaccinated by july. i am the most pessimistic person i know irl. can you stop doomposting? it's not helping anything and it's not going to stay this way.

ALright, fair. I'm just going to step away from ilxor for now.

But in my defense, I will say that I'm not just making this shit up whole cloth. My pessimism is fed by the pessimism my local leaders are sending me. I'd prefer to feel more optimism from our elected officials, undoubtedly.

Let's see how (for example) the mass vaccination at the United Center goes. But if they can pull that off - 6,000 a day, at one location, Chicago residents only iirc - that kind of rate easily gets us to everyone vaccinated (if they want to be) by summer, as long as the supply is indeed there

I just got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. Really impressed by how smooth and well managed the process was (aside from signing up which was a minor shitstorm)

Nice! I was impressed as well. It was a large-scale operation but very smooth. I kept wanting to thank all the people staffing it, but they moved us through so quickly I often didn't have time.

I understand that we recently had a big fight about judging people who travel during a pandemic and of course there are reasonable, understandable, and justifiable reasons why one might do so, but can we all agree that these two should be loaded into a cannon and fired into the sun?

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/vacation-with-stranger/index.html

Immediately if not sooner.

I will honestly say that the FEMA-run vaccination center in Philadelphia was pretty incredible. They were really moving people through— I think the whole process took about 45 minutes or so, and for a federal program in Philadelphia, that's miraculous. It takes years to get potholes filled.

I've been volunteering at a vaccine distribution center, and it's honestly so well run and organized. I'm not used to seeing that in this country.

yeah but Reagan!

Supply seems to really be opening out in nyc now. We have been checking turbo vax for about a week but all of a sudden there were a bunch of appointments that didn’t immediately disappear like phantoms. Getting it tomorrow afternoon in downtown Brooklyn.

Got my first dose! Fast and easy, so far so good, no discomfort or other symptoms.

Online preregistration for Washington DC, as of this morning, was remarkably smooth. (I hadn't even tried getting an appointment through DC.gov, but by most accounts "clusterfuck" was the term). So now to wait....

Good way to think about it:

COVID Vaccination Update: 1 in 4 adults in the U.S. have now received their first vaccine.

— Andy Slavitt (@aslavitt46) March 10, 2021

"They also had concerns as to whether I should go on vacation with a total stranger. But they trusted my judgment; I trusted my judgment," she adds.

why

Our neighbor got her 2nd shot this morning, and was so wiped out when she got home she couldn't get out of her car; had to call 911 and someone from Fire & Rescue came to help her out of her van and into the house. (She has existing mobility issues.)

got jabbed

awesome!

Ha, my next door neighbors also went to Turkey over New Year's. While they were there, the COVID test they took at O'Hare came back with a false positive for one of them, but then they had to quarantine for an extra week before they could come back. In separate hotel rooms, which is ridiculous because they're a couple and were together anyway. And we had to shovel their corner sidewalks for another 8 days.

Apparently they've logged at least 50 flights in the last year. But y'know, everyone makes their choices. And they haven't actually gotten COVID afaik.

we should have special threads where only vaccinated people can post

I'm OK with the way things are now, as long as everyone is wearing a mask.

Congrats Brad!

That 1/4 statistic is very heartening; it was only a couple of weeks ago that my cousin told me 1/4 of adults in AK had gotten the vaccine, and at the time that seemed amazing and out of reach for the rest of the country.

In terms of immunity I would guess we’re at 50% if not more.

You mean including people who have had it? I think the US has officially had around 29 million cases, and so far 62.5 million vaccinations (at least the first shot), so probably less than 50%, right? But climbing!

the general consensus is that the actual number of cases is ~2-3x the number of positive tests

Could be! But I think there is no general consensus on how long immunity lasts, right? Especially based on getting it. So if you had covid in, say, February of 2020, are you still immune?

True, and I’m assuming people who’ve had one shot are at least temporarily immune. So 50ish per cent seems ball park ish.

an you stop doomposting? it's not helping anything and it's not going to stay this way.

― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, March 10, 2021 8:27 AM (yesterday)

btw appresh everyone countering jvc's concerns, but there's only one reason why this is the wrong thread for him to vent his irrational COVID-19 fears and experiences in 2021