Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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But this is how Jellybean likes it - backs to the wall, superhuman effort required, etc. It's the run-of-the-mill Saturday 3pm'ers vs mediocrity that he/they can't hack.

The notion that Vaughan is the new Rooney is laughable but he may be the new...Owen. Much more keen on Arteta being Gravesen without the menaces. Stubbs possibly out for the season - so it's the earthy Weir and the mercurial Yobo in a Venusian central defence. It's so crazy it could work. Four points is nothing, mind.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone fancy watching LFC v Juve in town tomorrow night? Possibly upstairs at the Sun on Long Acre? http://www.fancyapint.com/main_site/thepubs/pub677.htm

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(I think Rafa has misplaced my mobile number, btw, and has had to gamble on taking Cissé with him.)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid I shall be on dandling duty.

Having watched Comedy Connections last night, I'm worried Ronnie Corbett might come up on the dumb waiter in The Sun.

Besides, you only want to go there so you can kick that Chelsea bloke's head in.

The person who should really go is CABBAGE.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i may well do JtN, also we can discuss THE PROJECT

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

SWEET.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris is not feeling optimistic, so may prefer to watch at home, but I will probably still be in town and might pop in.

― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray! Even though I won't be there.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

1978
Wales win the Grand Slam in Rugby
The Pope Dies
Liverpool lose in the League Cup final to the eventual League Champions that year (Forest)
Gary Player wins his ninth major by winning the US Masters
Liverpool win the European Cup

2005
Wales win the Grand Slam in Rugby
The Pope Dies
Liverpool lose in the League Cup final to the eventual League Champions that year (Chelsea)
Tiger Woods wins his ninth major by winning the US Masters
Champions League ????

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave B is http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38452000/jpg/_38452525_loughran150.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I might be up for this, but I may well feel too depressed and go home instead - I've been in lousy shape recently. I'll try to post tomorrow to let you know, not that it much matters of course.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

good work boyler, I may well be in attendance, it's a shame pj won't be there though

― chris/porkpie/cabbage, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't claim credit. It was from another msgboard.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Where they've added:

Prince Charles got married
Ken and Deirdre got married
A new Doctor Who was appointed
Norwich and Crystal Palace were relegated from D1
Liverpool won the European Cup

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

That was 1981.

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

1983:

A general election.
Steve Winwood's "Valerie" had been a hit only a year earlier.
A man from Bolton is very popular (Tony Knowles).
Scott Walker has reputedly finished a new LP.
Liverpool go out of the European Cup in the quarterfinals.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

1983:

Brighton relegated
Tories win election

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, and Liverpool aren't playing Widzew Lodz. OR ARE THEY?

(JtN: I may text you later if I'm up for watching this in town - depends how late I work...)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

As someone in our office has said, "The Pope must've been shitting himself watching the Six Nations."

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I will be along tonight - what time will people get there? I'm thinking 6.30-7.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I will try and get there earlyish myself to grab a table - probably some time around 6ish.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really nervous about tonight - not just the game (though obviously going to the Delle Alpi without Gerrard is worrisome enough) but in light of apparent threats by Juve fans and last night's trouble in Milan. There's going to be trouble. I'm almost sure of it.

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

my useless prediction? 3-1 to Juve but I really hope Liverpool win

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

If trouble kicks off and it's still 0-0, will LFC get handed the tie, like Milan did last night?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I expect Everton will just get banned from Europe. (I'm joking! I'm only pretending to play the Bitter Blue!)

The usual thing if a team or its fans muck about to the extent that a game can't be played to its conclusion is to award the match by the score of 3-0 to the innocent party. I expect this to be the outcome of the Inter-AC debacle. I dunno what would happen if a side aiming to recover a 1-5 first leg deficit went 2-0 up with 20min left and then the opposition all trooped off the pitch in some spurious protest.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

they want their bloody heads banging together.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

With full Optimism of the Will, I am going to predict a 1-1... with IGOR scoring a header.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm worried about non-football aspects of this too. I don't really fancy Liverpool's chances too much - haven't Juve had four 1-0 home wins in this competition this season already? Another seems reasonably probable, I think.

One of my colleagues here, who glories in the name of M@x 0rlando, is Italian and a Juve supporter. I think I'll resist asking him to join me.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate to think what the Ultras might do if Liverpool score (not that they need an on-field trigger). Best for all* concerned if Juventus quietly and efficiently win 2-0 in a game with no bookings.

(* - in a loose sense)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they should have a Charlie Rich match.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

JtN I trust all this palaver means you'd prefer a new title for THE PROJECT (not that I was keen on using that title for it anyway).

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

PJ, they should try to decide who is the most beautiful girl in the world?

(actually I was listening to Behind Closed Doors just a couple of hours ago, as it happens)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

realness

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Congrats to Liverpool. Hope you beat Chelsea.

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Bollocks

― L'il Michael Owen (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that was the most nervous three minutes of my entire life. Including the time I lost my virginity.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

at least there you managed to get in the box...

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Mixed feelings. It's nice that such an arrogant bunch of ultimately rather ineffectual footballers have been dumped out of the competition (along with their untrammelled thug-fan element).

The Liverpool run must be stopped but I find it difficult to imagine one elite Premiership side sticking it on another for a fourth (or perhaps fifth) time in one campaign* (OK, LFC beat EFC four times in 86-87, if you count the "Super" Cup) even if there are 31pts between them in the table. No, I fear a similar scenario to last season when Arsenal beat Chelsea three times in domestic competition (and always by the odd goal) before coming unstuck in the Euro two-legger.

(* - tho' 0-0 Stamford and 1-1 Anfield would do it).

Still, Jellybean now has more midweek fixtures at the business end of the season to spread his hobbling squad around. Got to be worth some dropped league points.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

fantastic result, but an excruciating 90 minutes. I was shaking and my hands were tingling at the end.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It'll be a 2-legged league match, not a CL semi. Though ITV will have a lot more than a semi at this (DYS!). I can see Liverpool doing this though they'll need all their players. Who's at home first?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Who? Igor Biscan?

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050413/i/r2950699042.jpg

PS - you saw in Biscan and Alonso why Liverpool fans (at least the ones I've spoken to) really don't fear the loss of Gerrard. They rather not, but it's not the end of the world, and after Houllier's attempts to build a team around one man, they aren't so keen to repeat it.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I am kinda worried that LFC will now knock out Chelsea and lose in the final, like some horrific reverse Arsenal 2004. But still! Juventus!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love it if they beat them. Love it.

(they=Liv)

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Mixed feelings. It's nice that such an arrogant bunch of ultimately rather ineffectual footballers have been dumped out of the competition

Um, they won, didn't they?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You know I was referring to Juve, cheeky. (On this occasion.)

1965:
There was a five in the year.
Jonathan King was in the news.
Some other stuff happened, eerily prescient of this year. (Spooky).
Liverpool lost in the European Cup semifinals.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Liverpool to beat PSV 3-2 in the final please...

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Liverpool - fantastic performance over 2 legs. I'm sorry that you'll be going no further - a CFC v LFC final would have been good.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it was nice to see cisse get a run out.

well done pool. can you imagine if they won the champions league? i still find it unlikely, but they've proven me wrong at every turn.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it was on the CL thread where we discussed what would happen if Liverpool won the CL and finished 5th or worse (for anyone who doesn't know, and there can't be many).

Basically, the FA can choose to nominate them as the fourth English representative in the 05-06 CL ahead of whoever does actually finish 4th in the Prem. And they will. There's no 5th CL place for England (or anyone) just cos someone outside the top four wins the damn thing.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Liverpool. Shame they've got Chelsea next. Started off reasonably well-disposed towards Chelsea but can't forgive them for beating Barca, who were sooo beautiful to watch, or for all the Mourinho antics during and since. Hope Liverpool beat them but can't see it.

If Liverpool do win it (highly unlikely) I'd feel very sorry for Everton if they finish 4th don't get into the CL next season. But it'd be even more scandalous if the FA didn't nominate the holders.

― frankiemachine, Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

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