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maybe if you modify that to "white" CA natives or longtime residents ...

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 05:57 (five years ago)

yeah i was gonna say. the adult children of LA natives being forced to move to inland empire or texas do not have more housing security than ... me.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 05:58 (five years ago)

The fact that I was born and raised in California doesn't really have as much impact on my housing stability compared to the fact that I am white and well-educated and have relatively affluent parents. There are plenty of people in the city I live in who were also born and raised here, and they do not have this, because of racism, poverty related to racism, poverty related to police violence and the carceral state related to racism ...

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 06:04 (five years ago)

did I mention that housing security/affordability is significantly affected by racism?

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 06:05 (five years ago)

yeah i was gonna say. the adult children of LA natives being forced to move to inland empire or texas do not have more housing security than ... me.


they’re mostly not the ones writing CA nativist think pieces afaik

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 March 2021 13:01 (five years ago)

What pieces are you talking about?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:21 (five years ago)

I mean it’s a rich genre but the latest Broke Ass Stuart comes to mind.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:46 (five years ago)

(as does the post I was replying to)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:47 (five years ago)

anyhoo, since β€œas a group” seems to have invited the #notallCAnatives discussion it was seeking to elide, let’s try it this way:

if a person is the immediate or generational beneficiary of Prop 13 or rent control, and that person celebrates the disappointment of newcomers who fail to find a toehold, that person is showing their NIMBY ass

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 March 2021 16:14 (five years ago)

BrokeAssStuart is kinda a hack tbh ... idk why so many people view his opinion as some sort of expertise or whatever

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 16:54 (five years ago)

if a person is the immediate or generational beneficiary of Prop 13 or rent control, and that person celebrates the disappointment of newcomers who fail to find a toehold, that person is showing their NIMBY ass

i get what you're saying, but in raw numbers, "generational beneficiaries of prop 13" are less likely to be the nimby adult children of nimby berkeley professors or whatever, than the adult children of african americans and latinos in coastal southern california, who are being forced inland and out of state while they wait for their parents to die.

(to be clear, i don't think the solution is more stuff like prop 13)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 17:41 (five years ago)

also adult children of african americans in central bay area for whom the fact their ancestor was able to buy a house in say, West Oakland or South Berkeley, was a significant achievement considering the racist practices of zoning and real estate sales and mortgage lending that required major Civil Rights legislation to be passed. And also the fact that less than 200 years ago, their ancestors were considered property that could be bought and sold?

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:13 (five years ago)

(to be clear, i don't think the solution is more stuff like prop 13)

otm

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:14 (five years ago)

and there's also the history of urban/suburban development that tended to build freeways and civic infrastructure by demolishing neighborhoods that were predominantly black, latino, or Asian.

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:16 (five years ago)

I'm guessing that SoCal has it's equivalent(s) of Highway 24, the Racist Highway?

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:18 (five years ago)

(n.b. I am including the 980 extension as part of Highway 24, the Racist Highway)

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:19 (five years ago)

what's the deal with 24? one side is "bad"? or both sides are bad because it hollowed out a community?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 18:23 (five years ago)

I think nearly every freeway in CA destroyed something or other.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:25 (five years ago)

Highway 24 was designed to improve the commutes of white people who moved to exclusionary suburbs that were traditionally Republican (up until maybe 10 years ago) at the expense of traditionally black neighborhoods that were historical organizing hubs for civil rights/black panthers

Some CA freeways were built alongside/or replaced existing roads. Like 101 which in many parts follows the old El Camino Real

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:29 (five years ago)

I am by no means defending SoCal freeways because I am not as familiar with their history

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:30 (five years ago)

not CA, but great article on that https://jalopnik.com/the-highway-was-supposed-to-save-this-city-can-tearing-1836529628

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 18:30 (five years ago)

This is a pretty good article about 980 -- which was basically a connector for Highway 24

https://sf.streetsblog.org/2019/04/17/inside-the-push-to-tear-down-an-oakland-freeway/

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 18:33 (five years ago)

I'm guessing that SoCal has it's equivalent(s) of Highway 24, the Racist Highway?

― sarahell, Friday, March 5, 2021

Leading candidate would the 10 aka Santa Monica Freeway, tho there are other contenders.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-06-24/bulldoze-la-freeways-racism-monument

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 March 2021 19:47 (five years ago)

The reason the 710 (Long Beach straight north to Pasadena) wasn't connected is largely that it went through a middle (or higher) class white area (South Pasadena). It does seem to be finally dead as a possibility now, after 50+ years of fighting.

nickn, Friday, 5 March 2021 21:43 (five years ago)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-03-06/california-counties-criticism-state-contract-covid-19-vaccine-distribution-blue-shield

who could have foreseen this?

this seems like an extremely bad idea https://laist.com/2021/02/01/head-scratching_over_newsoms_choice_of_blue_shield_to_lead_vaccination_push.php

― π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 5:54 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

Welp

Proponents of an effort to recall California Gov. Gavin Newsom say they have enough signatures to trigger a vote. https://t.co/DV4HmT6htA

— Michael Li ζŽδΉ‹ζ¨Έ (@mcpli) March 8, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 8 March 2021 00:17 (five years ago)

such bullshit

Dan S, Monday, 8 March 2021 00:32 (five years ago)

Hope that evening at French laundry was worth it

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 8 March 2021 00:36 (five years ago)

Every time California recalls a governor an angel gets its wings

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 March 2021 00:46 (five years ago)

damn these pricks for making me vote for this guy again

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 March 2021 00:57 (five years ago)

haha otm

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 8 March 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

this is fine

Twice as many school boards in California as cities. https://t.co/LoeTaqDPb3

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) March 9, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 23:51 (five years ago)

Sounds racist.

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 00:03 (five years ago)

pretty much anything OUSD decides is gonna be considered racist by someone. ... also, did we mention the incident with the Los Gatos schools where they were so concerned about re-opening quickly, they got their teachers to jump the line in vaccinations ahead of elderly and immunocompromised people and farmworkers?

sarahell, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 01:10 (five years ago)

how the recall process would work

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-score/2021/03/15/the-dates-to-know-for-the-potential-newsom-recall-793982

gonna be a long summer and a lot of wasted time, but for now he looks like he'll survive the vote

A reminder that Grey Davis' recall polled at or ahead of his final margin of defeat (55% yes 45% no).

38% is not gonna get it done. https://t.co/d7x15Zg3de

— Steve Singiser (@stevesingiser) March 15, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:02 (five years ago)

Meantime, whew.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-03-18/mwd-manager-left-legacy-abuse-desert-water-world

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:04 (five years ago)

i certainly don't love newsom but this recall is fucking dumb

akm, Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:32 (five years ago)

i want an option on the ballot that says "i dislike all these fkrs even more than i dislike Gavin Newsom THINK ABOUT THAT"

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:08 (five years ago)

i want an option that makes the people who funded this recall to have to pay everyone $50 for having to participate in this bullshit

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:12 (five years ago)

I'm not sure the goal is really to actually replace Newsom (highly unlikely) but rather to besmirch him, drag his name through the mud, criticize the Democrats, etc. It's a general smear campaign that feigns loftier goals.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:17 (five years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/18/trailer-explaining-california-recall/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 19 March 2021 00:17 (five years ago)

the recall is bs, but this is not

See how @BlueShieldCA Spent Years Cultivating a Relationship with @GavinNewsom. It Got the State Vaccine Contract. https://t.co/kR8iNCNl2i via @khnews with @ahartreports

— Samantha Young (@youngsamantha) March 19, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:54 (five years ago)

so many companies getting contracts for things related to Covid that are just ... ugh ... otoh, this pandemic is hopefully demonstrating the value of chronically underpaid, underfunded non-profit organizations which really should get more power/say in policy and systems development than some of these corporate clowns

sarahell, Friday, 19 March 2021 19:02 (five years ago)

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/03/22/why-newsom-isnt-counting-on-his-own-government-to-manage-vaccine-rollout-1368548

Newsom, a wine entrepreneur who got his political start in San Francisco, has long been enthralled by the private sector's ability to solve problems on the fly compared to the slow pace of government. In his 2013 book, "Citizenville," he said that government doesn't have the money, programmers or engineering mindset to address problems in the technology age. But, he added, "we don't have to. We simply have to make it possible for people outside government to help us fix them."

how's that working out?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:44 (five years ago)

idk but Salesforce built the data infrastructure for the Emergency Rental Assistance Program and a lot of the state emergency funding grants are being managed by a company called Lendistry ... there are issues with both of these things

sarahell, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:57 (five years ago)

otoh -- there is the EDD

sarahell, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:58 (five years ago)

ha! well if you run it badly and underfund it then newsom's prediction that government is bad turns out to be correct, it's true.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:15 (five years ago)

my hunch is he doesn't actually have an opinion about The Private Sector, but he likes that outsourcing allows him to claim he's not responsible, and that will be the #1 lesson he learns from the EDD.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:16 (five years ago)

otm on both counts

sarahell, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:20 (five years ago)

I think that the, uh, lack of capacity the state has had for responding to Covid, both the virus itself and the economic repercussions really shows how underfunded the state government has been, probably since Reagan tbh

sarahell, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:23 (five years ago)


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