"There are though a number of ways of structuring that body though and our ‘starter for ten’ approach will need further consideration."
OK, this sends what I thought was just a slightly twee conversational catchphrase into very strange territory. What the hell is that meant to mean? I suspect it wouldn't help much if I knew what kind of body we were talking about.
― Alba, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
I think it translates as: "There are a lot of ways the landowners involved in this project can structure a partnership. Our report offers some options to consider."
― salsa shark, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
"quote-unquote" followed by the thing you want to quote, which is by now outside of the quote marks and thus not quoted. Happy to see an example of this upthread!
― regression toward the meme (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
that logic doesn't make any sense, quote-unquote is used the same way "said" is, at the beginning of the utterance that is its referent. this, for example, is not what we do in English:
The other day John said I'm going to the store said.
...although some languages probably do exactly that.
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
(object is probably a better term to use than referent there)
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
Inspired by reading this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/01/us-soccer-removes-seth-jahn-speech
“I’m sure I’m going to ruffle some feathers with what I’m about to say, especially given the athletes council that I’m on, but given the evolution of our quote-unquote, progressive culture where everything offends everybody" blah blah blah
He'd have been better off waggling his fingers in the air and affecting a sneer as he said it. Maybe he did that anyway, to be fair to the lad.
― regression toward the meme (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link
yes, it's often employed by jerks, it's just not syntactically problematic for an English utterance
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link
"house" as a verb
even worse: housed/unhoused
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 11 March 2021 11:56 (three years ago) link
I worked in housing for several years i mean i dunno what to tell ya the job is housing ppl
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 March 2021 11:59 (three years ago) link
Jungle Brothers to thread.
― Vernon Locke, Thursday, 11 March 2021 12:09 (three years ago) link
I've had it up to here with the word 'to'.
― Alba, Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:03 (three years ago) link
yeah, not sure what the issue is with "housed"?
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 March 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
to house is not a home
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 11 March 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Thursday, March 11, 2021 11:59 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
<3
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
― groovemaaan, Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:56 AM (four hours ago)
unhoused is often a more accurate term to refer to "homeless people" -- as what they actually lack is a physical structure designed for long-term residential habitation (i.e. housing) as opposed to a fixed area where they have friends, family, accounts and community services that bind them to that area (i.e. home).
― sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
An interesting difference between US and UK English is that the UK has the term 'rough sleepers' to describe homeless people who are actually sleeping on the streets, rather than the wider group of homeless people who are couch-surfing etc. As I understand it, there's no simple way of referring to rough sleepers in American English.
― Alba, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
I think the American custom is to refer to "rough sleepers" as "homeless", as well as people who sleep in cars, whereas the couch-surfing people have "housing instability"
― sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
"Housing instability" is quite a euphemism!
― Alba, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
There's also 'street homeless', which includes all the rough sleepers plus people who "routinely find themselves on the streets during the day with nowhere to go at night. Some will end up sleepingoutside, or in a derelict or other building not designed for human habitation, perhaps for long periods. Others will sleep at a friend’s for a very short time, or stay in a hostel, night-shelter or squat, or spend nights in prison or hospital."https://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/48458/Factsheet_Street_Homelessness_Aug_2006.pdf
― Alba, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
One of the flats I lived in Glasgow had housing instability, that was down to subsidence though.
― Wrote For Lunch (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
"House" as a verb is almost a different word, it's pronounced differently... a bit like "read" (present) and "read" (past tense).
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
Hows that
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
"Any more for any more?"
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link
80s prog band Twelfth Night prominently used that phrase in one song so I have a soft spot for it.
― fuck this for a game of soldiers (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:04 (three years ago) link
"I just want to cover off some key points"
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 March 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link
TH you gotta stop or I’ll never make it through a meeting again
― stet, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
"no recipe" recipes is some bullshit I keep seeing amongst my spam email. I'm capable and confident enough to a bit of improv in my kitchen - but even if you are making it up as you go along - It's always a FUCKING RECIPE!
― calzino, Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link
“It’s _____’s world now, we’re just living in it.”
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 22 March 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link
what if, as i increasingly suspect, it's snrub's world
i mean the browns are sort of good now
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 03:56 (three years ago) link
"aged like milk"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
get a new simile
impactful
― sarahell, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
probably because it is "newish" and it is everywhere and it is usually used in a douchey context
― sarahell, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
"Say it louder for the people in the back!"
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 28 March 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, March 24, 2021 1:16 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes this one does seem to have curdled fairly quickly
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 28 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
so ur saying....?
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
excessive use of literal or literally as an unnecessary appendage to be more emphatic or something. It doesn't really annoy the shit out of me as a regular butcherer of sentence structure, good grammar and spelling, but I just feel like it is overused. I was reading a comment about a convicted sex-offender on twitter on my phone and very briefly misread "literal pedo" as "literary pedo" and then was cheerily imagining Tommy Robinson doorstepping Martin Amis.
― calzino, Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
Again: calling the ground/the road/the sidewalk/the pavement “the floor”. UK police and their spokespeople seem to be serial offenders here.
― scampopo (suzy), Sunday, 28 March 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link
"we need to have this conversation"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
meaning some vague societal 'conversation' rather than an actual back & forth between two people
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
"tulip bubble"
There are enough other bubbles to reference that you don't need to keep pointing to one from hundreds of years ago that you're only familiar with because the professor in the one economics class you took pretended to read the book his economics professor assigned him.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link
tulip bubbles are a specific type of bubble though
it can have more weight to refer to a precedential historical antecedent than to cite beanie babies, depending on the audience or intent of the writing
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link
its also kind of a gross sounding phrase. i agree it's kind of useful though
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link
agreed, and I think the "beanie babies bubble" (if it existed to the extent tulipmania did) is different re the underlying origins and "value" of the thing in question.
The South Sea Bubble is the one that got the bubble name first iirc, so, I also agree with man alive
― sarahell, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
then there's the Bubble Bobble bubble of 2019-2021
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
The Teletubble of xmas 2001 was real
― Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
Bubble works beautifully as a metaphor for a speculative mania, in that a real life bubble consists of a very small amount of substance inflated to an enormous size.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
that wasn't anyone's annoyance but thanks for sharing?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
Weirdly, I'm sick of "the venn diagram is a circle" but I will never tire of "time is a flat circle"
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link