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you know who makes my antimicrobial shirts, is a collaboration between Samsung and Tide

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:55 (five years ago)

It is for the best that I never moved to Silicon Valley because I would either be even more insufferable or in jail after freaking the fuck out and punching everyone in sight

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:56 (five years ago)

complete lazy slobs who still somehow care what they smell like

my people

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:58 (five years ago)

you know who makes my antimicrobial shirts, is a collaboration between Samsung and Tide

โ€• Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Samsung x Tide

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 16:47 (five years ago)

TidePods x Soylent

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:02 (five years ago)

My GF forced me to listen to Conan O'Brien's podcast the other day, which was especially heavy on advertising. One 'service' he promoted was having a new car just delivered to your house. "No more boring trips to the dealer!" etc. etc.

I don't know who this is targeted to, but it's clearly not me.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:25 (five years ago)

certainly not the first to note the existence of that class of startups, and i did not come up with the name "MAAS", but it's a good one.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:30 (five years ago)

I thought a lot of the breathable shirts were marketed to people hiking/camping, but I think between my different online ad demographics I'm getting half outdoorsy types and half desk-bound coders and some brands are cross-marketing

mh, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:32 (five years ago)

it's aspirational -- the desk-bound coders are supposed to want to go hiking/camping and need a bona fide reason to buy these shirts, but instead, they don't and just, y'know, buy them to make up for not showering

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:46 (five years ago)

well, I wear mostly merino wool shirts AND shower daily. so there!

mh, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:46 (five years ago)

#notalldeskboundcoders

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 16:04 (five years ago)

baffler's not all bad... this is savage and i love it
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/how-to-become-an-intellectual-in-silicon-valley-timms

davey, Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:36 (five years ago)

Join DocuSign executives, along with industry visionaries from Progressive and Arm, to discover how they are transforming their agreement process. Youโ€™ll also hear from singer/songwriters and inspiring speakers like Michael Franti and Mick Ebeling of Not Impossible Labs.

sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:32 (five years ago)

seriously, what happened to Michael Franti

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:37 (five years ago)

I mean, Docusign is a pretty solid program as far as electronic signatures go but .... seriously ... ya, right?

sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:40 (five years ago)

"industry visionaries" = vomit all over myself

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:48 (five years ago)

davey's link is indeed a pleasant read and highlights how much these dumb assholes are just 1970s/80s neoliberal chamber-of-commerce mouthpieces but with a fresh coat of rock-star paint plus ted talks and twitter.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:39 (five years ago)

There was a vinyl banner in SOMA San Francisco with some tech knob wearing a headset mic, and the pithy, airy quote: "We should only think of a technology as radical if it benefits every person on the planet."

And I thought "Bowls? Bowls is all I got. Maybe sandals?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:08 (five years ago)

the wheel

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:17 (five years ago)

the toilet

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 02:46 (five years ago)

the smallpox vaccine

davey, Friday, 12 March 2021 03:07 (five years ago)

For real though instead of NFTs can't we just docusign stuff?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 March 2021 03:24 (five years ago)

the toilet


Not everyone!

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 March 2021 03:43 (five years ago)

xp - seriously, why isn't Grimes headlining the Docusign conference?

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 05:46 (five years ago)

pic.twitter.com/mmdI3ioIOf

— Nitasha Tiku (@nitashatiku) March 12, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2021 07:12 (five years ago)

I'm howling

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:50 (five years ago)

is this intentional or unintentional comedy?

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:05 (five years ago)

The North Sentinelese in the Andaman Islands don't have wheels or smallpox vaccines. They may have toilets and/or bowls, nobody knows.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:14 (five years ago)

The part about watching Jackson do design work live on twitch is the clincher.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:18 (five years ago)

why does she speak like TTS software?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 March 2021 19:27 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

This is extremely good and fascinating. Still not done with it:

https://www.thedigradio.com/podcast/counterculture-to-cyberculture-with-fred-turner/

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:21 (five years ago)

Anyone gonna watch this? I don't know.. the founder guy looks kinda like the Night Stalker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVAESeO7dgc

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 April 2021 18:58 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

Mind Capitalism: Braindreessen Horowitz pic.twitter.com/2OxuHn8r0s

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) May 4, 2021

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 01:37 (five years ago)

What?

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 01:42 (five years ago)

Okay at first I thought it was inexplicable, then I thought it was some kind of sinister prank the universe was playing on me, but now I'm just really enjoying how dumb this tweet is. Man just had a thought and tweeted it without any of the wiser parts of the brain stepping in, they were just as transfixed as the rest of us.

lukas, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 01:46 (five years ago)

this whole basecamp thing has been amazing

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 13:47 (five years ago)

It's been a case study in how to set your company on fire

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 14:03 (five years ago)

Iโ€™m learning some leadership lessons certainly, like โ€œdonโ€™t call in to the very sensitive all-hands from bedโ€

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 14:43 (five years ago)

my grad school adviser was a huge basecamp stan so I've been following it a bit, the whole thing to me really smacks of all the white tech guys I've encountered in undergrad/grad education at tech schoolsโ€”the reactionary way of dealing with these conversations is basically an across-the-board thing, especially the general "I just want to build cool shit, why do we have to talk about things that are so ambiguous and divisive? also I have not experienced white supremacy or done it so it doesn't exist."

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 16:07 (five years ago)

wait, what is this thing?

sarahell, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 16:45 (five years ago)

https://www.platformer.news/p/-how-basecamp-blew-up

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 16:46 (five years ago)

if you're outside tech then they're obviously awful people just based on this story, but there's a huge amount of schadenfreude inside tech too because they've written a bunch of very strident "here's how to run a company" books.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:02 (five years ago)

Picked this book authored by the Basecamp co-founders off of the shelf and opened it to a section I had highlighted when I first read it. ๐Ÿ™„ pic.twitter.com/aJHptrC8XK

— JT (@thejoshtorres) May 4, 2021

lukas, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:16 (five years ago)

Picked this book authored by the Basecamp co-founders off of the shelf and opened it to a section I had highlighted when I first read it. ๐Ÿ™„ pic.twitter.com/aJHptrC8XK

— JT (@thejoshtorres) May 4, 2021

lukas, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:16 (five years ago)

more coverage: https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22418208/basecamp-all-hands-meeting-employee-resignations-buyouts-implosion

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:46 (five years ago)

Iโ€™m learning some leadership lessons certainly, like โ€œdonโ€™t call in to the very sensitive all-hands from bedโ€

I thought this had to be a joke

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:59 (five years ago)

dan m, I think that Verge piece is exactly the same as what mookieproof posted?

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:59 (five years ago)

weird, I assumed since it was a separate URL that it would have been different, my bad

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:10 (five years ago)

So this kerfufle was triggered by employees posting to ilx's "Abysmal Real Names" thread?

everything, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:21 (five years ago)

Feels good to not know what Basecamp does.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:35 (five years ago)


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