“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

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That's partially why Trump wanted to destroy the USPS... because they help Amazon deliver profits.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:17 (five years ago)

Yea USPS even says Amazon Delivery or some shit on their tracker for Sunday deliveries

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:48 (five years ago)

It's a much more interesting story than "Biden said he'd do it and he didn't." Trump's un-confirmable man at DHS used the final days of the lame duck term to make deals that tied Biden's hands and let courts stop him from doing the deportation pause. https://t.co/FdJiw2V9zM

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) February 25, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 25 February 2021 14:06 (five years ago)

there's the tax returns:

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/540463-manhattan-da-obtains-trump-tax-returns-report?

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:01 (five years ago)

xp so much in that ICE story. feel like story should have led with the ultra vires/outside of authority point. like, in process, the ice director resigned, then the two weeks later their replacement resigned, then their replacement would not/did not sign, then cuccinelli signed "for agency" as acting deputy secretary. "but i asked the gc, i know i'm good!"

i'm not good enough at agency ad law to know how that stands tho i guess.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:05 (five years ago)

Didn't the tax returns already get leaked to the Times? Wasn't that a thing for, like, a week? Are these different tax returns? Or just finally formally in the hands of prosecutors?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:08 (five years ago)

Anyway, while they're in there they should just do the guy a solid and help him with the audit, it's been a while.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:09 (five years ago)

It's hard to believe the last-minute ICE deal will stand up given all the issues with the legality of Cuccinelli's authority. But what a clusterfuck. And of course even if Biden manages to override the deal with the union, I'm sure most of those Trumpy ICE officers have civil service protection that will functionally leave them in charge of the agency's operations.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:11 (five years ago)

Didn't the tax returns already get leaked to the Times? Wasn't that a thing for, like, a week? Are these different tax returns? Or just finally formally in the hands of prosecutors?


IIRC they were New York State returns and old.

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:20 (five years ago)

After a contentious debate on the Equality Act, which would extend civil rights protections to the LGBTQ community, Rep. Marie Newman (D-Ill.) on Wednesday raised a transgender pride flag outside her office — which happens to sit directly across from the office of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), one of the bill’s most vocal opponents.

“Our neighbor, [Greene], tried to block the Equality Act because she believes prohibiting discrimination against trans Americans is ‘disgusting, immoral, and evil,’” Newman, who has a transgender daughter, wrote on Twitter with a video of her hanging the flag. “Thought we’d put up our Transgender flag so she can look at it every time she opens her door.”

Greene, who lost her committee memberships by promoting false and extremist claims, quickly responded with her own video mocking Newman’s earlier tweet as she hung up a poster that said: “There are TWO genders: Male & Female. Trust The Science!”

“Thought we’d put up ours so [Newman] can look at it every time she opens her door,” Greene said.

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Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:30 (five years ago)

nyah, nyah-nyah, nyah, nyah, not me, you, YOU, the same thing but only YOU!!

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:32 (five years ago)

disgusting

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:32 (five years ago)

"trust the science" coming from ppl who do not believe in climate change... fuckin rich

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:32 (five years ago)

one of these was labeled as hate speech on Facebook and taken down. Guess which one.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:33 (five years ago)

It's not just that she holds so many abhorrent views, it's the unbridled glee with which she presents them in such dick-ish, trolly ways that really makes her an extra special brand of despicable.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:33 (five years ago)

probably more for the explain conservatism thread, but for the life of me i just can't understand how these fuckwits deal with so much cognitive dissonance on a daily basis.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:44 (five years ago)

GOP never got around to adopting a platform, guess abhorrent views, dickish trolling and extra special despicableness will work as well as any. xp

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:46 (five years ago)

they carefully cultivate a world that absolutely minimizes any encounters with actual facts

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:48 (five years ago)

also a firm commitment to the design aesthetic and typographical chaos of facebook memes

rob, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:49 (five years ago)

The cruelty is the point.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:50 (five years ago)

one of these was labeled as hate speech on Facebook and taken down. Guess which one.

can I guess

but dan, do you think the company should, for eg, take the same kind of action against Marjorie Taylor Greene's misinformation? if so, ought they wait until halfway through her fourth term, too?

― stilt in the wings (sic), Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:07 PM (two days ago)

stilt in the wings (sic), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:52 (five years ago)

xp

i had an imaginary debate with a generic republican politician on a talkshow in my head the other day. i pulled a power play and said something like "the proof is in the GOP's platform that they put forward during the 2020 election - would you care to explain what was in that platform, republican congressman?", and then he's like "well, i, the thing is that - we didn't exactly, i-, why i, why you scoundrel!! you know we republicans didn't even bother to put together a 2020 platform for our party, this is humiliating!!!". then i offer him my bandana and as he wipe away his tears, i say "you didn't need a platform, because your party sublimated itself to the whims of a fascist, you cowardly piece of shit". in this world i am 65 and i have at least 24 abs, and my ab sweat is just barely showing through my button-down, and the host of tv show is clapping for me as the republican is forced to resign

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:53 (five years ago)

probably more for the explain conservatism thread, but for the life of me i just can't understand how these fuckwits deal with so much cognitive dissonance on a daily basis.

― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, February 25, 2021 11:44 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

By refusing to deal with it, I'd imagine. Anything that disagrees with my position in this moment is wrong, even if the perspective in question is congruent with something I was bellowing into someone's face five minutes ago.

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:53 (five years ago)

"Trust The Science"

utterly fucking pathetic

jmm, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:53 (five years ago)

The party with a platform gets punished. Dems believe in policy, whatever you might think of centrism, neoliberalism, etc. The GOP did nothing in Congress four years of Trump's term. They elect people to troll on social media.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:54 (five years ago)

xposts hard lol, km

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:55 (five years ago)

I'm sorry -- they passed Trump's billionaire tax bill and tried repealing the ACA. In 2017, four years ago.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:55 (five years ago)

The Tanden Twitter Defense Squad has really tooled up.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:57 (five years ago)

Karl I like your elaborate fantasy world

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:02 (five years ago)

thank you, Andy. as i look at my non-glistening non-abs now, though, i am reminded that i'm not a ripped 65-year-old who poops out fat. i'm just a 37-year-old trying to get by in this crazy world

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:42 (five years ago)

eh I'll hit on you too -- it's been eleven months.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:43 (five years ago)

probably more for the explain conservatism thread, but for the life of me i just can't understand how these fuckwits deal with so much cognitive dissonance on a daily basis.

I have contemplated this and have a working theory. I think the key is not seeing something like "science" as a thing in and of itself, but merely as part of a rhetorical arsenal. So if you understand that "Trust the science" is an effective rhetorical weapon that is being deployed against you, the proper Karl Rovian response is not to engage with science, but to look for opportunities to muddy the waters by deploying the same weapon in reverse. This is not, in this formulation, cognitive dissonance, because there's no real cognition going on. You're not acknowledging that there is any intrinsic value in trusting the science. You are merely turning the enemy's guns back on them. This often looks unbelievably stupid and tone-deaf from the other side, but the argument is not intended for the other side. It's to rally the political base with what they will understand as an act of aggression that they can cheer.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:45 (five years ago)

it's not that fuckin hard tbh, people are herd animals, they can literally tell themselves anything to justify whatever. it is honestly more baffling to me that liberals don't get this, but then they are essentially performing for their tribe too.

lord of the ting tings (map), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:49 (five years ago)

Idk there's gigantic fucking gulf between one side "performing" by pushing for fair treatment for transgender citizens and the other "performing" by irl shitposting.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:53 (five years ago)

how can this completely insane person affirm the basic value of white supremacist patriarchal capitalism in such a different way than i do? it defies all logic

lord of the ting tings (map), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

oh jesus christ

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:57 (five years ago)

nb i care about trans rights and hate lauren boebert as much as anyone i'm just not going to wring my hands about it on this vacuous fucking thread today

lord of the ting tings (map), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:57 (five years ago)

xp lol alfred

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:57 (five years ago)

The cruelty is the point.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:50 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

^

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:13 (five years ago)

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The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:16 (five years ago)

i just can't understand how these fuckwits deal with so much cognitive dissonance on a daily basis.

There's no such thing as hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance with respect to societal interaction unless you have an underlying presumption of equality. Marjorie Taylor Greene does not have that.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:19 (five years ago)

I still come back to the story of that rando middle-aged dad who was your typical dorky dad, lugging his kid around around the time Trump was inaugurated, and he found someone with a lanyard, got in his face, and said "you press?", then when he got an affirmative reply, flipped him off and spat on him, and went back to playing with his kid

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:37 (five years ago)

I mean, I guess I already knew the answer: these fuckwits deal with it by not acknowledging it, and by either ignoring what doesn't fit into their worldview or shaping facts and ideas to shape their worldview, which is an evangelical, ethno-nationalist authoritarian one.

Guess even I am occasionally moved to awe and horror at the depravity of these people.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:32 (five years ago)

The bill, introduced by an Iowa Republican state senator, specifically would reduce the number of early voting days from 29 days to 20 days. It would also close polling places an hour earlier on Election Day (at 8 p.m. instead of 9 p.m.).
The bill also places new restrictions on absentee voting including banning officials from sending applications without a voter first requesting one and requiring ballots be received by the county before polls close on Election Day...

Guessing the correct number of jellybeans in the jar can't be far behind.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:14 (five years ago)

anyone studied the Equality Act bill?

After a tense and often personal debate, the House voted 224-to-206 for the measure, with three Republicans joining all Democrats to vote "yes."

The legislation would amend federal civil rights laws to ensure protections for LGBTQ Americans in employment, education, housing, credit, jury service and other areas. It is a top legislative priority of President Biden, who in a statement last week called the bill “a critical step toward ensuring that America lives up to our foundational values of equality and freedom for all.”

A number of religious denominations are lobbying against the measure, saying its lack of religious exemptions creates one of the most sweeping challenges to religious liberty in decades.

Groups including the Church of Latter-day Saints, Orthodox Jews and Seventh-day Adventists, among others, say it could halt free and reduced lunches for children across the country who attend single-gender parochial schools, require church community halls to rent space for LGBT ceremonies and could threaten federal security grants for synagogues and mosques facing violence because of their faiths.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:26 (five years ago)

Why do they deserve exemptions? I'm thinking... they don't.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:53 (five years ago)

facing violence because of their faiths

I get so infuriated whenever I see this bullshit trotted out in the name of denying LGBTQ rights. How about Americans facing violence just for fucking existing?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 23:01 (five years ago)

It seems the very core of American 'religious liberty' amounts to denying said liberty to others.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 23:05 (five years ago)

require church community halls to rent space for LGBT ceremonies

the community hall is not a consecrated space, so what's their beef?

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 25 February 2021 23:08 (five years ago)

When your perceived rights are based entirely around denying rights to others and trying to force them to adapt to your precious and perfect worldview, yeah.

epistantophus, Thursday, 25 February 2021 23:19 (five years ago)


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