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managed to make an old guy talking about the fucking beatles my favorite scene in a movie

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:42 PM (nine months ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Black Album playlist Hawke put out gave me the impression the dad doesn’t really listen to much solo Beatles stuff outside of the hits.

iirc the studio didn't really know what to do with D&C and marketed it as a stoner comedy. tbf it was also the second movie by a little-known director with no stars in it. it would be more accurate to market it as american graffiti but for the '70s but i don't know if that would have drawn in any more people.

I saw DAZED AND CONFUSED for the first time last night.

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I'd say I was jealous but I'm actually glad that I saw it for the first time when I was still a teenager.

yeah exactly, I thought it was very good but (again) something I can’t imagine wouldn’t have been all the more powerful if I’d seen it 12 years ago

the studio didn't really know what to do with D&C and marketed it as a stoner comedy

I just finished the book a month ago and should know this, but I think that's right. This original poster tied in with that idea.

https://www.originalfilmart.com/products/dazed-and-confused-1993-teaser

"seems like something that could be rewatched a hundred times."

Not 100 but I'm prob up to 30. 6 or so of which came within the same week when friend and I decided to watch it every day. D&C and Trading Places are my most watched movies.
I remember seeing the commercials for it and wanting to see it but being under 17 so waiting to came out on VHS. Commercial pull was "70s music/fashion + stoners + teenage wasteland + cute girls".

It's probably at least in my top ten most rewatched movies.

the new oral history, discussed in the D&C thread last week, is good.

Is that the book? I've got it in my wishlist

my biggest complaint is that the characters were all pretty one-dimensional and the acting was kind of bad

It depends. Jason London gets more shades into Pink than what even Linklater came up. We all guys like him: the ones who can hang with the jocks, stoners, and outcasts without damage. And Michelle Burke is relaxed.

i like wiley wiggins' performance. i don't know if it's "acting" but he is that kid.

I had no idea before reading the book that Shawn Andrews was supposed to be the breakout star.

Everyone hated him no? To the point where his part got drastically cut.

I don't know if there's a single performance I don't like, although, as I've said in the D&C thread, Rory Cochrane as Slater can be a bit much. Ben Affleck is really good conveying extreme aggression masking insecurity.

Both him and Jovovich, who got deeply involved during the filming. And they were the two who didn't participate in the book.

Yeah I'm not wowed by any performance but I can't think of any that break the spell the movie casts. I guess Wiley is the weakest link, and for a time I found his tic of pinching the bridge of his nose distracting. Think he only does that in one or 2 scenes tho? Yet at the same time I don't think a more polished actor would work as well in that part idk.

Lol apparently he touches bridge of his nose 42 times

Only recently recognized Michelle Burke as Connie in "The Coneheads".

why were you watching the coneheads

Ackroyd and Curtin's deliveries are great!

I haven't read the new book, but iirc from some of the other Dazed retrospectives I've read, going in Andrews had alot of buzz around him (from where idk, it was his first film) and was already acting like a big star, which alienated him from almost everyone else, and--coupled with the arrival of McConaughey--led to him sort of getting written out of latter part of the movie.

Ben Affleck is really good conveying extreme aggression masking insecurity.

― clemenza, Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:15 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

perhaps playing himself...

great movie!

Ben Affleck is really good conveying extreme aggression masking insecurity.

Absolutely, he really nailed the very specific type of dipshit bully we had in our high school, just seething, simmering rage at all times.

in the book, a lot of the younger actors said they were genuinely scared of affleck and cole hauser. meanwhile affleck talks about how he hates bullies and bullying, that he had only been cast as bullies up to that point and that he wanted to break away from that, and that any perceived on-set bullying was misconstrued. hauser owned up a bit more to them going overboard at times.

I like the detail that he's the only guy who's in the process of turning his muscle car into a tacky '70s street machine.

https://www.goldeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Dazed-and-Confused-1973-Plymouth-Duster.jpg

Like he's four paychecks away from painting it metallic purple and installing a blower.

Cole Hauser is terrifying in a bunch of movies of that era. Isn’t he in All Over Me?

Wish there would have been a scene with Clint just tearing O'Bannion apart for his car.

xpost - yes, he is in that and plays a terrifying skinhead in Higher Learning

Huh, was shockingly old when I learned that Cole Hauser is the son of Wings Hauser.

i saw it when i was about 20 with a clutch of druggie friends from glasgow. we sat in the front row. all of us completely blown away by it

think I’m gonna go with EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!! tonight

Most people seem to disagree, but I found it a PALE IMITATION!!

It's nowhere near as good as Dazed, but it's still pretty good imho and def worth a viewing if you liked D&C.

irc the studio didn't really know what to do with D&C and marketed it as a stoner comedy. tbf it was also the second movie by a little-known director with no stars in it. it would be more accurate to market it as american graffiti but for the '70s but i don't know if that would have drawn in any more people.

Just because it's not Half Baked doesn't mean it's not a stoner comedy, maaaan.

i had a bad experience watching this stoned because mike getting beaten bummed me out :c

I watched EWS! last week again. It's fine.

i had a bad experience watching this stoned because mike getting beaten bummed me out :c

That scene did cut a little close for me, lol.

mike is probably the nearest any character comes to my teenage self and looks a bit like my brother so yeah, same

Both D&C and EWS are among my comfort movies, so naturally I rescreened them after I got power back last week. The latter is terrific.

I watched EWS! last week again. It's fine.

You lopped off one of the exclamation points, though--I think that've very, very meaningful.

(I should have mentioned the one scene I thought perfect, which won't be hard to guess if you've seen the film.)

"that's" (eyes, brain, fingers, I never know with my parade of typos)

the ones who can hang with the jocks, stoners, and outcasts without damage

i like that this is what the movie considers an essentially heroic quality. a character who actually deserves edie mcclurg's catalogue of subcultures from ferris bueller.

jim in van / pbkr otm; there is more than one scene of prolonged sadism! and if any of them happen to catch you wrong it can be doubly unpleasant because the movie doesn't really seem to be remembering them any less fondly than anything else, even if it doesn't like ben affleck (it might like parker posey well enough). obv it is part of its greatness that it won't commit to comforting you (just remember what you're celebrating).

yeah so I just watched EWS tonight and it fuckin ruled. 118 minutes of guys being dudes. liked it better than DAZED I think

Also really enjoyed EWS but I remember D&C much more vividly

same

maybe this is an unwelcome view but EWS seems so much richer to me; I liked DAZED a lot for its portrayal of the distinctly suburban feeling of invincibility and meaninglessness, but EWS actually has characters, it's much funnier, and maybe it's because it's college people rather than high school people but it's filled with people I'd much rather hang out with

The women aren't as thought out, though, but, boy, those boys are just...

in which film are they not as thought out, you think?