“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

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It's "just temporary" ...

As a practical matter, ICE is now letting more unaccompanied minors across the border (per Biden's directives), and they do actually have to go somewhere. Legally the government can't just give a 16-year-old a bus ticket to Baltimore or whatever. But keeping them in jail is obviously not a good option either. I'm not sure what should be done in the short term, but they ought to be working on a better, more humane system in the near term. The absence of that is what will keep the detention centers open. And keeping the detention centers open allows them to not think about a better, more humane system, because they have a place to stash them. Not great.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:46 (five years ago)

“It is a step backward...” It is. What is the step forward for children in custody?

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:51 (five years ago)

To get them out of custody obv. But our system is so fucked up that it's hard to get to that point. (Highly recommend "Tell Me How It Ends" by Valeria Luiselli on this.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:56 (five years ago)

As a practical matter, ICE is now letting more unaccompanied minors across the border (per Biden's directives), and they do actually have to go somewhere. Legally the government can't just give a 16-year-old a bus ticket to Baltimore or whatever. But keeping them in jail is obviously not a good option either. I'm not sure what should be done in the short term, but they ought to be working on a better, more humane system in the near term. The absence of that is what will keep the detention centers open. And keeping the detention centers open allows them to not think about a better, more humane system, because they have a place to stash them. Not great.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:46 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Blerrrggghghg to ALL OF THIS HORRIBLENESS. I mean tipsy otm.

It's my understanding that the process of minors applying for asylum REQUIRES them to arrive unaccompanied at the border and surrender to agents. It doesn't work if there's an adult with them or if they have a parent or guardian resident in the US. I mean, it SUCKS, but that's what we've got. Let's un-get it though yes.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:58 (five years ago)

I interviewed a guy last week who had been put into deportation (for the infuriating reason that someone hit his car, and while giving an accident report to the responding officer, the guy had to acknowledge he didn't have a driver's license). He was whisked into the black hole of ICE while his wife and kids tried to keep track of where he was. The upshot was he spent about 5 weeks in ICE jail in two different states, and by forking over all the family savings (and the savings of other family members and friends) to hire a lawyer, he was finally released and had to take a bus back from Louisiana to Tennessee. He's now back doing exactly what he was doing before, working as a cook, but minus what little cushion the family had. The thing he kept repeating about the whole system was, "It's just a business."

Which is too kind, obviously. It's a fucking racket, and a deeply inhumane one. But it's so administratively and bureaucratically entrenched that dismantling it would be very hard even for an administration that really wanted to.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 14:02 (five years ago)

:((((( I worked with a middle-schooler whose brother was coming without documents from Guatemala iirc?, and was only a couple of hours away from NYC in a car when they were apparently detained & sucked into the maw of ICE. They took him all the way to CHICAGO, like a 14-hour drive away!! I tried to find him free legal services but my resources were all NYC-based and I think the family got their own lawyer first. It was so scary and awful.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 14:11 (five years ago)

ICE world really is its own subterranean system. It's like being captured by goblins.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 14:24 (five years ago)

The violence of borders is despicable, dismantle it all now afaic, I truly don't care about "how difficult it would be."

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:48 (five years ago)

Clearly.

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:19 (five years ago)

tuesday mornng challenge:

without googling, without using your computer, without looking at the news, and without breathing, who said this:

“Here’s a suggestion: Just don’t be assholes,” he said. “Just, you know, treat each other as human beings. Have some degree, some modicum of respect.”

hint: it's one of the biggest assholes

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:22 (five years ago)

answer:

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) reported on Tuesday morning that his wife, Heidi, is less than thrilled that at least two people in her group chat leaked her tone-deaf texts about the Cruz family’s Cancún vacation in the middle of Texas’ snowstorm crisis last week.

“I will say, Heidi’s pretty pissed at that,” Cruz said during an interview on the conservative “Ruthless” podcast.

The group chat participants were the Cruzs’ neighbors, according to the senator. He speculated that the moles could’ve been some of the Democrats on their street.

“We’ve got a number of Republicans who are neighbors but we’ve also got a number of Democrats with folks on our street who put up Beto signs, which I thought was a little rude,” Cruz said, referring to his 2018 Democratic challenger, Beto O’Rourke.

Then the Texas Republican, who fled to sunny Mexico as millions of his constituents sat freezing in their homes due to power outages from the storm, tut-tutted at the leakers’ lack of decency.

“Here’s a suggestion: Just don’t be assholes,” he said. “Just, you know, treat each other as human beings. Have some degree, some modicum of respect.”

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:23 (five years ago)

FUCK

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:23 (five years ago)

i am really, really bad at the new Hide tag. ted cruz said it. ted cruz is an asshole. that's all i got here

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:24 (five years ago)

we’ve also got a number of Democrats with folks on our street who put up Beto signs, which I thought was a little rude,” Cruz said

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:26 (five years ago)

What a little pissant.

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:27 (five years ago)

I am giving something away about myself here, but it physically pains me that I share a first name with Ted Cruz, and that it's much too late for me to try something else.

At least my name isn't Donald.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:27 (five years ago)

I truly don't care about "how difficult it would be."

As a statement of principle, I get it. As a statement of how to change things in the world, the difficulty matters a great deal.

If they can get any kind of half-decent immigration bill through — and I don't even know how to calculate the odds on that — that will be the important first step out of the current situation.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:28 (five years ago)

As a statement of how to change things in the world, the difficulty matters a great deal.

people are what make these things difficult. they aren't just difficult as a matter of fact.

lord of the ting tings (map), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:33 (five years ago)

we’ve also got a number of Democrats with folks on our street who put up Beto signs, which I thought was a little rude

Why would you ever take them down if you had Cruz as a neighbour?

jmm, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:34 (five years ago)

you will get the same deflection from democrats re their currently unraveling stimulus disaster. disembodied difficulties.

lord of the ting tings (map), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:34 (five years ago)

The difficulty of people is the biggest matter of fact I've ever encountered.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:35 (five years ago)

The lack of self-awareness, saying "just don't be assholes" on a podcast called "Ruthless". Wow.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:35 (five years ago)

If you had to choose, would you call a kid Donald or isis?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:36 (five years ago)

I still don’t really know what ISIS is, or if it’s still happening

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:36 (five years ago)

Every other heave-inducing Cruz-ism aside, that quote about the signs is really something else. It's a little rude that you'd support a party other than the one affiliated with squirming human-sized spermatozoa Ted Cruz!

The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:37 (five years ago)

xpost - they broke up in 2010, but they reunite for live shows from time to time

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:37 (five years ago)

how has biden not visited texas yet

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:37 (five years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/winter-weather-texas-updates/

“He is eager to go down to Texas and show his support,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on ABC News’s “This Week” on Sunday. “But he’s also very mindful of the fact that it’s not a light footprint for a president to travel to a disaster area. He does not want to take away resources or attention.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:39 (five years ago)

I am giving something away about myself here, but it physically pains me that I share a first name with Ted Cruz, and that it's much too late for me to try something else.

Ted is just his stage name, though. Is your real first name Rafael?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:45 (five years ago)

how has biden not visited texas yet

he's waiting for all the Texas politicians to visit first

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:47 (five years ago)

people are what make these things difficult. they aren't just difficult as a matter of fact.

True but tautological since politics is a human system. It's difficulties are inherently people-centric. Borders are also a human invention obviously, and exist as a subset of politics. But the problem being "people" doesn't make the problems any easier. Makes them harder, really. If the challenges were strictly physics or engineering, we could solve them pretty quickly.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:06 (five years ago)

President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden are traveling to Houston on Friday as the state continues to recover from the winter storm, according to the @HoustonChron: https://t.co/ggowOCGnuc

— Matt Viser (@mviser) February 23, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:10 (five years ago)

^^And in exchange, we're sending Deshaun Watson and two draft picks to DC.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:14 (five years ago)

Ted is just his stage name, though. Is your real first name Rafael?

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:45 AM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No, but Ted is also my "stage name," and also the name that I've chosen to have printed on diplomas, etc. The only places that use my "real" and "legal" name are places of work, the bank, and other bullshit that has little to do with my life. No one has ever called me by my real name except in those contexts, either. I even tried to use it when I switched schools for high school, and it didn't stick.

Alas, I'm a Ted.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:38 (five years ago)

Ted is a nice name, imo. Anyway, I don't think the specific association with Ted Cruz is that strong yet. He hasn't been mononymized like Bernie or Hillary.

jmm, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:53 (five years ago)

I've been a leftist firebrand long enough that people used to call me "Kaczynski" in middle school.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:57 (five years ago)

just so nonsensical and so deflating

.@SenatorSinema is doubling down on her support of the #filibuster in emails to constituents today. 🧵 pic.twitter.com/uYtv4W0pGg

— Sarah Dohl (@SarahDohl) February 23, 2021

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:38 (five years ago)

xpost this is the story of a boy almost named Ted

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:38 (five years ago)

THAT SOULJA BOY OF COURSE

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/whos-gonna-tellem/sharetoken/PUnCw0rG5HKD?fbclid=IwAR3xRSjGs3kK_IFU2hphJwA0UnUOSrLRP9r5EdT3v42kdrAv0zyd3JoZr80

We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:44 (five years ago)

That Sinema thing is just so disheartening.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:55 (five years ago)

Wish someone would [redacted] Romney and Cotton.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:55 (five years ago)

Josh is otm there, especially regarding the need to use paid media to get the message across, instead of relying on free news media or social media accounts. Which runs into a basic problem of who is the custodian of that message and therefore should be the recipient of the money to distribute that message? The DNC is nominally set up to be that custodian, but they can't seem to shake off their deep-seated institutional ineptitude and their lazy fealty to the wealthy writers of big checks. I'd hate to have to send them my money to get this done; it would be like throwing it down a rathole.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:05 (five years ago)

Argh, Kyrsten Sinema. Eliminating the filibuster is *more likely* to lead to bipartisan solutions than retaining it. With a filibuster in place, Republicans can just prevent any legislation from being passed by sending an email. But if Democrats are able to pass legislation with a simple majority, that incentivizes Republicans to at least try to negotiate. And in some cases, Democrats will *want* to negotiate if it means that they can pick up Republican votes and then claim that the bill is bipartisan.

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:22 (five years ago)

want a revolution? keep clamping down, lady. centrist out—

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:26 (five years ago)

Honestly haven't paid a lot of attention to her, is she hoping for some pork being thrown her way now that Manchin has backed down a little?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:29 (five years ago)

that's always the question, innit? does what she says in any way reflect what she thinks and what she wants?

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:32 (five years ago)

Sinema is useless and disappointing and lame.

akm, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:33 (five years ago)

Yep but at least she's not McSally or some even worse AZ Repub dilweed

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:34 (five years ago)

when I think about Ted I think about the Seth MacFarlane movie about a wicked funny teddy bear who says the most crazy things

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:39 (five years ago)


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