an alternate Uptown Saturday Night poster that may or may not have been posted and vanished earlier:
https://i.imgur.com/EARoF8M.jpg
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 13:34 (five years ago)
another version with bottom detail
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 13:35 (five years ago)
Speaking of bottom detail, why not appreciate 1959's Please Turn Over
sadly I cna't find a better copy of this even better variation
― stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 26 February 2021 09:09 (five years ago)
they don't get much busier than... "BRANNIGAN!" (1975)
https://i.imgur.com/kg64Amq.jpg
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:19 (five years ago)
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51WBN6S7Q4L.jpg
The Gun In Betty Lou's Handbag, 1992
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:18 (five years ago)
"What A Pullquote!"
Even the apparently official blurb for the DVD opens Penelope Ann Miller's delightful performance as the shy, part-time librarian Betty Lou Perkins is the saving grace of this comedy from Touchstone Pictures. Allan Moyle though, I'd give it a watch.
gotta say that the actual movie poster does a much better job of selling it than the VHS cover above.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:33 (five years ago)
https://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/svdDKiQnBFj8tsgN7fXlKqHpjUk.jpg
Smokey and the Hotwire Gang (1979)
― edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:28 (five years ago)
leader of the hotwire gang is really not that into this, it seems
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:48 (five years ago)
Producer to poster artist: "Makes sure them nipples is VISIBLE"
― incredible pant century (stevie), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:46 (five years ago)
linkrotted upthread:
80s All Over continues to deliver the goods:Take This Job and Shove It (1981)― ✓ (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:30 AM (three years ago)
Take This Job and Shove It (1981)
― ✓ (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:30 AM (three years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/iU5e0WS.jpg
meanwhile i'm continuing my long-abandoned project of spreadsheeting all these movies, with taglines and dates. probably redundant to cryptosicko's Letterboxd list but it's something i started ages ago so... hey.
anyway one thing that struck me, cataloguing taglines, is how many of these posters, especially in the post-Animal House era, lean on calling out other, better films by name, e.g. What "Stripes" did to the Army, What "Police Academy" did to law enforcement... These guys do to scouting! for "The Wrong Guys," or that attempt by "Take This Job and Shove It" to suggest Hays's presence means you're in for something somehow descended from or connected to Airplane! can't recall seeing that kind of naked credibility-grabbing in more recent years - did the big studios crack down at some point, maybe secure a legal precedent that invoking their films was intended to mislead the audience about who made the films or something?
another running theme, apparently a wackiness signifier: really precise numbers, as where the town in "Cold Turkey" has 4,006 people trying to quit smoking and collect the cash prize, or where the dollar amount at stake in The Fortune Cookie is $249,000.92.
― ✓ (Doctor Casino), Sunday, May 7, 2017 3:35 AM (three years ago)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 05:41 (five years ago)
guess you can't turn your quote into a hide
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 05:42 (five years ago)
RIP Yaphet Kotto
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewk4I62XMAEMY-A?format=jpg&name=900x900
― na (NA), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:16 (five years ago)
I have some big news for you about animated films
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:53 (five years ago)
YK the god
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 15:48 (five years ago)
apparently legit, the 1979 pitch poster for unmade second Jaws sequel Jaws 3, People 0
https://i.imgur.com/QsRMP6K.jpg
which was to be directed by Joe Dante from a script co-written by John Hughes, based on an idea improvised in a restaurant by the publisher of National Lampoon, and be a meta parody about the making of a Jaws sequel about an alien shark, that opened with Peter Benchley being chomped in his own swimming pool.
hueg
(apparently Spielberg kiboshed the idea of a wacky parody of Jaws; Dante went and made The Howling instead. then Spielberg hired him for Twilight Zone and Gremlins bcz The Howling showed he was so good at making a mix of horror and pop-culture-aware comedy.)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:23 (five years ago)
Steve Bissette just shared this one on his FB page, never seen it before:
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/162064566_10161101427708289_4944227670621849757_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=J2JpFvWqz3QAX8tUr56&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=898c2342d0e682bf37176535cd24042b&oe=607823F9
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:35 (five years ago)
last posted itt three weeks ago, last cited itt two days ago :)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:46 (five years ago)
"A good cast is worth repeating" :-)
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:47 (five years ago)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GMkEd7V7Zyk/TrOVyxRHlVI/AAAAAAADpWg/UH35TUfv-OU/s1600/slap_shot-poster-3.jpg
Slap Shot, 1977
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 21 March 2021 21:11 (five years ago)
in my head, the front guy is shouting the title in the style of Tony Manero saying "Alllll Pacino!"
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Sunday, 21 March 2021 21:28 (five years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz-r2DsXcAAt94V.jpg
One Way Pendulum, 1965
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 23:25 (five years ago)
Getty watermarked with spot colour
https://i.imgur.com/TxmCyh4.jpg
cool one-off for a 2010 screening by the bane of Glasgow FAPs
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 22 March 2021 23:46 (five years ago)
drawings remind me a bit of the Magical Mystery Tour booklet cartoons!
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 12:32 (five years ago)
while searching through the thread to avoid repeats, I found El Castañazo still posted from eight years ago!
Also not labelled, here's a much clearer version of More American Graffiti (1979)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:03 (five years ago)
(at that size you can confirm that it's a Wm. Stout joint)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:04 (five years ago)
... mercilessly ripping off crumb left, right and center
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:28 (five years ago)
The movie is set in 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967 - the Roth and Crumb quotes are, I take it, Stout putting his own youthful interests of the period into the context of the way the film uses different film stocks, aspect ratios and editing styles to reflect the "mode" of each year.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:36 (five years ago)
(note that he's especially quoting aspects of Crumb that Crumb had beatjacked from older culture - eg the Segar bystanders, Kilroy Was Here)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:39 (five years ago)
uh, some of those are direct crumb lifts (stoned agin, riot cop stomping the hippie, flakey foont with ?, etc)i like stout as much as the next guy but that poster is grounds for a lawsuit
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:56 (five years ago)
Speaking of late-'70s Crumb rips...
https://townsquare.media/site/366/files/2017/06/TYW-Book-Hi-res-CMYK.jpg?w=600&q=75
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:21 (five years ago)
uh, some of those are direct crumb lifts (stoned agin
...the stoned agin riff is not only very much not a direct lift, it specifically blends a different take on Kilroy Was Here with the one 1960s pop-culture sample that recurs from American Graffiti (1973) to MAG (1979). Stout really appears to be working in the spirit of the film here!
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:43 (five years ago)
more of that Sabbath Crumb rip collected here, but collected there from a 2015 Skot ILX thread that has since linkrotted)
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:54 (five years ago)
Haha, I'm the one who posted that article in said Skot thread.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:12 (five years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/ku58xMV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ii6B6xT.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mbKwI9F.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/pgT84fW.png
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:14 (five years ago)
yes, the Stoned Agin guy has his whole head melting and sagging in the middle, and at no point drapes his long nose over a spinning record like Kilroy draping his nose over a wall, and also is not an element of an illustration representing people listening to radio DJ Wolfman Jack! we're agreeing completely!
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 05:32 (five years ago)
You are completely out of your mind sic but you do you
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:14 (five years ago)
This is the most anyone has discussed anything pertaining to More American Graffiti in 40 years.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:13 (five years ago)
RIP George Segal
https://media-cache.cinematerial.com/p/500x/cozdofnp/the-new-interns-french-movie-poster.jpg?v=1587312682
The New Interns, 1964
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjZjNDY2OTEtNTZjNC00ZGFiLTg5MDQtOTI4NjdjY2MwY2NjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzQzNDEyOQ@@._V1_UY1200_CR85,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
All's Fair, 1989
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:29 (five years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/kE4KIzh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6G4pdHx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7b5baEY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rc8irFY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AnPq466.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EgnzDRV.jpg
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:09 (five years ago)
i am familiar with kilroy, the positioning/hair/eyes of that figure are clearly based on the stoned agin comic.the face above wolfman jack is clearly a lift from jayzey lynch.the keep on truckin' figure is all but traced.i can't find it but the riot cop jumping on the hippy's head is a copy from either gilbert shelton or crumb.the rosy hippy face in the center is based on the fritz the cat cameo.i like stout but he was obviously told to lift underground signifiers, poses and shots and did a bunch of swipes.is he your uncle or something and you feel the need to defend this point or is this indicative of some larger mania?
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:30 (five years ago)
compare cop faces here:http://i.imgur.com/snqa98F.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/twtGZqf.png
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:31 (five years ago)
Roth and Crumb quotes
stoned agin riff
we seriously are agreeing about what's happening here except a) you think it's bad and b)
obviously told to lift underground signifiers
Stout putting his own youthful interests of the period into the context of the way the film uses different film stocks, aspect ratios and editing styles to reflect the "mode" of each year
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:57 (five years ago)
as a general rule i think it's bad when artists' work is egregiously ripped off in their own style without them getting paid, yes.
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:14 (five years ago)
RIP Jessica Walter
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/00/0f/41000fe41448fa496ce429f7aab8dd0c.jpg
https://www.moviemem.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/GRANDPRIXHRws.jpg
Grand Prix, 1966
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:41 (five years ago)
It's a movie poster, Michael, what could Letraset cost - $1000?
obviously that's a strong concern of mine too, but I don't think King Features Syndicate should have sued Crumb for Segar-bodied figures either. The Stout use of Crumb references is transformative, is not the sole aspect of '60s culture being riffed on, clearly not intended as "passing off," and not the main illustrative focus of the work. (it would be cool if it turns out that Stout used some Lucasbucks to buy original art from Crumb at a con or through DiCaprio or w/e, for sure. I went looking to see if he's said anything about it, and ended up breadcrumbing through this thread...)
Speaking of, American Graffiti (1973) is still holding up above the fold, but let's glance at the quad format version, and note this presumably Spanish version too
but!
by the time AmGraf was re-released in 1978, Stout had done the first ever Star Wars merchandising art, a set of drinking glasses for Burger King.
I was good friends with Charlie Lippincott and Mick Garris. They had just been hired by George Lucas to oversee the merchandising of a new film that he was about to released called Star Wars. I went over to visit those guys; they were in this little office. It was the two of them plus Mick’s wife at the time, Kelly; she was the receptionist/secretary. It was like being on the beach with three friends watching a tsunami heading your way. Three people to handle the entire merchandising for Star Wars!
George Lucas is a very loyal guy. Any time any comic-style work would come up, George would make a call and have me hired. American Graffiti was being re-released. George wanted a new ad campaign for American Graffiti. He insisted that the ad agency, that was reluctant to hire me because they’d never worked with me before, hire me to do a whole bunch of caricatures of the cast of American Graffiti, plus a new movie poster.
I can't find a Stout-looking re-release poster, just the Drucker one with IS BACK! added next to the movie title. But here's one of those caricatures:
https://i.imgur.com/kOAxNTs.jpg
Also still holding up from gr80's original burst of posters is Rock'n'Roll High School (1979), of which Stout said
STOUT: Yeah. I love Roger. He’s an amazing guy. He was very up-front about everything, which was basically… “We’re not going to pay you much, but you’re going to get the chance to do what you want to do.” ...His movie posters were the same way. He’d hire young people to do his posters. Obviously, they had to be competent. But traditionally, when I would do movie posters, the agency would have me do a whole series of roughs. I’d get so much per rough. From the roughs they’d select a couple of ideas to do as comps – comprehensives – sort of in between a rough and a finish. So I’d do maybe more four or five comps. Then if they liked some of those comps, sometimes they’d have me do a color comp, which was like the poster in color but not quite as finished as a finish but more detailed than a rough. Eventually we’d go to a finish. I got to bill for each of those different steps.I always made more money from my roughs and comps than from my finishes. At that time I’d rather not do the finish. I had to work slower on a finish and there was the added pressure of it having to be perfect, whereas with the roughs and comps I could just bash ‘em out. Roger Corman didn’t want to spend that kind of money on a movie poster – so I would just show him a thumbnail sketch. He was very lucid visually; he could look at a thumbnail, completely understand it and go, “Yes, Bill. That’s what I want. Go to finish.” So he cut out all of those other steps, saving himself a ton of dough.I’ll never forget his instructions to me for the Rock ‘n’ Roll High School poster.“Bill, you can do anything you want — as long as it looks like Animal House.”*
His movie posters were the same way. He’d hire young people to do his posters. Obviously, they had to be competent. But traditionally, when I would do movie posters, the agency would have me do a whole series of roughs. I’d get so much per rough. From the roughs they’d select a couple of ideas to do as comps – comprehensives – sort of in between a rough and a finish. So I’d do maybe more four or five comps. Then if they liked some of those comps, sometimes they’d have me do a color comp, which was like the poster in color but not quite as finished as a finish but more detailed than a rough. Eventually we’d go to a finish. I got to bill for each of those different steps.
I always made more money from my roughs and comps than from my finishes. At that time I’d rather not do the finish. I had to work slower on a finish and there was the added pressure of it having to be perfect, whereas with the roughs and comps I could just bash ‘em out. Roger Corman didn’t want to spend that kind of money on a movie poster – so I would just show him a thumbnail sketch. He was very lucid visually; he could look at a thumbnail, completely understand it and go, “Yes, Bill. That’s what I want. Go to finish.” So he cut out all of those other steps, saving himself a ton of dough.
I’ll never forget his instructions to me for the Rock ‘n’ Roll High School poster.
“Bill, you can do anything you want — as long as it looks like Animal House.”*
(* also one of the earliest posters itt)
Stout also recalls looking at the LA Times one week in the late '70s and seeing eight of his own posters in the movie calendar section.
Heritage have a scan (backup) of his original art for the Corman/Arkush/Dante/Ramones joint.
I can't find a clear enough version of the Japanese poster to tell if it's Stout (probably not) but it's more than busy enough to note here:
https://i.imgur.com/97ScCqL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UeNKd2t.jpg
Graffiti first got annotated by Ward back in the neolithic days:
SPIES poster is by moebiusamerican graffiti by mort drucker― Ward Fowler, Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:12 AM (seven years ago)
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:12 AM (seven years ago)
Here's that French S*P*Y*S poster in-thread, and a backup.
Four years later, Doc noted
BTW speaking of the "and remember that other movie" type of poster --- C. Grisso posted a French version of S.P.Y.S (1974) in the early days of this thread, but the differently-drawn American poster hits that theme really hard...
Here's a clearer version - any ideas at the artist? Seems like a promising breadcrumb trail.
Doc also noted the English poster, reformatted for DVD - in quad form, it stands out that part of the Anglicisation was making it big-heads-little-bodies style.
More NEW FILMS TO THREAD... when our programme returns.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 26 March 2021 03:00 (five years ago)
https://fffmovieposters.com/wp-content/uploads/55928.jpg
Peeper, 1975
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 March 2021 04:41 (five years ago)
i have some questions about the grammar of the lines beneath the top caricature there - or should the bottom line be above the top one?
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Friday, 26 March 2021 09:52 (five years ago)
lol what is happening there? it looks like an unfinished draft where some fragment of an earlier arrangement of the sentence hasn't gotten caught yet.also solid solid deep dive post by sic.
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 March 2021 12:45 (five years ago)
but yes i think the one line is just out of order.... bizarre.
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 March 2021 12:46 (five years ago)
That's really weird. I just looked back at other posters for the film, and-when it's used-that sentence usually appears as one unbroken line. I also found another long sheet like the one I posted where it's correctly split over two lines.
So who knows? Sic?
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 March 2021 15:08 (five years ago)