lol xpost
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:25 (five years ago)
this show is stunningly hilarious, and season 2 was up another notch from the also-great season 1
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:25 (five years ago)
i'd like to think the discussion went
'we are only doing this if we can have him, and him, and her, and him, and him' and then they went out and got them, the best casting ever
― imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:25 (five years ago)
I really enjoyed What We Do in the Shadows and found myself more moved to watch all of it than I did How To, and yet I can't say it's BETTER than How To. It's really a lot like Schitt's Creek; quirky characters who are superficially types out of place but who over time develop into individual characters who we come to see as exactly where they should be. Warm, easy to watch, goes for the easy joke sometimes but one finds it hard to blame it.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:25 (five years ago)
just remembered the "greetings owl" sign the gang created in the super bowl episode and started cackling to myself
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:26 (five years ago)
i was gonna ask btw, how does How To compare to AGNB?
― imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:26 (five years ago)
shocked that The Flight Attendant and Industry were completely shut out - mind you, never seen the former and only seen two eps of the latter but they got a fair amount of "buzz" in my online corners
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:27 (five years ago)
Another praiseworthy aspect of this show is that, like the Onion, you find yourself saying "I can't believe they're still wringing jokes out of this seemingly limited schtick" but they do and it stays funny. (At least, this was true of the Onion for the first 20 years, maybe less so now.)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:27 (five years ago)
Sell me on What We Do in the Shadows. A comedy about vampires from one of the Flight of the Conchords guys isn't doing it for me.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:30 (five years ago)
It's really funny?
(NB, I have never watched any Flight of the Conchords or really much other Watiti stuff at all.)
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:31 (five years ago)
i liked the movie a lot, the tv show is amusing but i don't really get the amount of love it gets on ilx
― na (NA), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:32 (five years ago)
the show is considerably better than the movie imho
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:33 (five years ago)
How To With John Wilson is not yet available in the UK, as far as I can tell. But it is noted for future reference.
Loved the WWDITS movie (have watched it three times), didn't like S1 E1 of the TV spinoff so bailed, shall reconsider forthwith.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:35 (five years ago)
I'd be interested to know how involved Scharpling is in WWDITS because the humor often reminds me of Best Show-level absurdity.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:35 (five years ago)
It took me until WWDITS to realize that I'm really, really not much interested in genre TV shows, at least not compared to genre movies.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:36 (five years ago)
scharpling is a writer on the tv show, yes
― na (NA), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:42 (five years ago)
at least on s1. i don't know if he stuck around for s2.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:43 (five years ago)
i do think colin robinson is a very inventive and genuinely new character type for the genre.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:44 (five years ago)
― mike t-diva,
Same!
That british guy is incredibly annoying and has zero range and i hate him in everything, will not watch him
― scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:44 (five years ago)
Intellectualism and nuance is given categorically short shrift in most popular entertainment but Michaela Coel leaned heavy into presenting the complexities of a world where there are no clearly defined absolutes. Victims can be monsters, rape can be a damaged cry for help, sex can be hateful, presenting your trauma can be selfishness, social media love can damage you, your friends can’t really know you, and all of these as opposites are proved true as well. This uncertainty is a conscious reflection on the show’s central concern: the importance and fungibility of consent. Control is an impossible thing to attain and yet it’s the only thing all this show’s characters strive for: control of self, control of one’s story, control of one’s sexuality and control of the repercussions for having that control taken away.
Coel’s remarkable finale, which left me teary-eyed and in awe, seemed to suggest that the illusion of control is unattainable, that if we could truly control everything that hurt us or moved us, we’d break apart no less spectacularly than we already have. I think it’s safe to say that I May Destroy You is going to be remembered as one of the defining documents of the past decade and Coel starred, wrote, co-directed and produced the whole damn thing. Whatever she does next, I want to be first in line.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:45 (five years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/oO9U3jF.jpg#1 - I May Destroy You (HBO, BBC) - 253 points, 18 votes, 10 #1 votes, 17 top 5 votesNB: Most Points, Most #1 Votes, Top HBO, Top BBC, Top DramaI May Destroy You - Michaela Coel
TrailerSample Clip 1Sample Clip 2US WebsiteUK WebsiteMichaela Coel’s 2018 MacTaggart LectureTalking with GQHow It Changed Our Liveshttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/feb/03/emily-in-paris-writer-on-i-may-destroy-you-snub-golden-globeshttps://blackgirlnerds.com/michaela-coels-i-may-destroy-you-establishes-a-new-paradigm-for-social-justice-television-and-life/https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/rethinking-rape-and-laughter-michaela-coels-i-may-destroy-you/https://www.vulture.com/article/michaela-coel-i-may-destroy-you.htmlhttps://hyperallergic.com/583965/i-may-destroy-you-review-michaela-coel/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/07/06/michaela-coels-chaos-and-charisma-in-i-may-destroy-youhttps://www.npr.org/2020/07/22/894167333/michaela-coel-on-i-may-destroy-youhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/arts/television/i-may-destroy-you-sexual-assault.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/arts/television/paapa-essiedu-i-may-destroy-you.html
And that’s the poll!
Here’s all the data :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r38SVcWq42bp75PdbZaJE_ClK4vfdpAjIHI5KUOlJiI/edit?usp=sharing
And here’s Moka’s complete image album:https://imgur.com/a/aaHQcxP
And here’s our final list. Happy viewing!
#1 - I May Destroy You (HBO, BBC) - 253 points, 18 votes, 10 #1 votes, 17 top 5 votes#2 - What We Do in the Shadow (FX) - 215 points, 24 votes, 14 top 5 votes#3 - How To with John Wilson (HBO) - 203 points, 16 votes, 5 #1 votes, 14 top 5 votes#4 - Better Call Saul (AMC) - 190 points, 16 votes, 3 #1 votes, 15 top 5 votes#5 - The Last Dance (ESPN, Netflix) - 161 points,16 votes, 2 #1 votes, 10 top 5 votes#6 - Ted Lasso (Apple +) - 150 points, 16 votes, 2 #1 votes, 8 top 5 votes#7 - The Queen’s Gambit (Netflix) - 141 points, 20 votes, 5 top 5 votes#8 - The Mandalorian (Disney +) - 115 points, 15 votes, 2 #1 votes, 5 top 5 votes#9 - Sex Education (Netflix) - 106 points, 10 votes, 3 #1 votes, 6 top 5 votes#10 - The Boys (Amazon) - 104 points, 10 votes, 1 #1 vote, 7 top 5 votes#11 - Schitt’s Creek (Netflix) - 100 points, 12 votes, 6 top 5 votes#12 - Small Axe (Amazon, BBC) - 92 points, 11 votes, 3 #1 votes, 4 top 5 votes#13 - Bojack Horseman (Netflix) - 83 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 votes, 4 top 5 votes#14 - All Gas No Brakes (YouTube) - 76 points, 8 votes, 5 top 5 votes#15 - Normal People (Hulu) - 75 points, 8 votes, 6 top 5 votes#16 - The Dress Up Gang (TBS) - 71 points, 8 votes, 1 #1 vote, 4 top 5 votes#17 - Lovecraft Country (HBO) - 67 points, 11 votes, 2 #1 votes, 2 top 5 votes#18 - Mrs. America (Hulu) - 66 points, 9 votes, 3 top 5 votes#19 - Big Mouth (Netflix) - 64 points, 7 votes, 1 #1 vote, 4 top 5 votes#20 - Action Button (YouTube) - 61 points, 6 votes, 3 #1 votes, 3 top 5 votes#21 - The Expanse (Amazon) - 60 points, 5 votes, 4 top 5 votes#22 - PEN15 (Hulu) - 59 points, 8 votes, 3 top 5 votes#23 - Devs (Hulu) - 56 points, 9 votes, 2 top 5 votes#24 - The Crown (Netflix) - 54 points, 8 votes, 2 top 5 votes#25 - Dead to Me (Netflix) - 53 points, 6 votes, 3 top 5 votes#26 - Jeopardy (Syndication) - 51 points, 8 votes, 2 top 5 votes#27 - The Great British Bake Off / The Great British Baking Show (Netflix, Channel 4) - 47 points, 9 votes, 1 top 5 vote#28 - Brockmire (IFC) - 47 points, 6 votes, 2 top 5 votes#29 - Search Party (HBO) - 43 points, 6 votes, 2 top 5 votes#30 (Tie) - Dark (Netflix) - 41 points, 7 votes, 1 top 5 vote#30 (Tie) - Killing Eve (BBC America / BBC) - 41 points, 7 votes, 1 top 5 vote#32 - Work in Progress (Showtime) - 41 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 2 top 5 votes#33 - The Great (Hulu) - 38 points, 5 votes, 2 top 5 votes#34 - Giri/Haji (BBC, Netflix) - 37 points, 7 votes, 1 top 5 vote#35 - I Am Not Okay with This (Netflix) - 37 points, 6 votes, 2 top 5 votes#36 - Insecure (HBO) - 36 points, 5 votes, 2 top 5 votes#37 - Worzel Gummidge (BBC) - 35 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#38 (Tie) - The History of the Seattle Mariners (YouTube) - 33 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#38 (Tie) - Kingdom (Netflix) - 33 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#38 (Tie) - The New Pope (HBO) - 33 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#41 - Quiz (ITV, AMC) - 32 points, 5 votes, 1 top 5 vote#42 - Mortimer and Whitehouse: Gone Fishing (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes, 2 top 5 vote#43 - Rick and Morty (Adult Swim) - 29 points, 8 votes#44 - Last Week Tonight (HBO) - 29 points, 6 votes#45 (Tie) - Aggretsuko (Netflix) - 28 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#45 (Tie) - Unorthodox (Netflix) - 28 points, 4 votes, 2 top 5 votes#47 - High Maintenance (HBO) - 28 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#48 - RuPaul’s Drag Race (VH1) - 27 points, 5 votes, 1 top 5 vote#49 - Aunty Donna’s Big Ol’ House of Fun (Netflix) - 26 points, 5 votes#50 - Never Have I Ever (Netflix) - 26 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#51 - Tiger King (Netflix) - 25 points, 6 votes#52 (Tie) - Fargo (FX) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vot#52 (Tie) - Ghosts (BBC1, HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#54 - Strictly Come Dancing (BBC) - 25 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#55 (Tie) - Beef House (Adult Swim) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#55 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#57 - A House Through Time (BBC2) - 23 points, 3 votes, 2 top 5 votes#58 - The Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#59 - GeoWizard Missions (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes, 2 top 5 votes#60 (Tie) - Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#60 (Tie) - Murder on Middle Beach (HBO) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#62 (Tie) - High Fidelity (Hulu) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#62 (Tie) - Ozark (Netflix) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#64 - Mythic Quest: Raven’s Banquet (Apple +) - 18 points, 5 votes#65 (Tie) - AEW Dynamite (TBS) - 18 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote#65 (Tie) - The Plot Against America (HBO) - 18 points, 3 votes#67 - The Good Lord Bird (HBO) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#68 - Star Trek: Picard (CBS All Access) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#69 - Dave (FX) - 16 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote#70 - 20020 (SB Nation) - 16 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#71 - Bob’s Burgers (FX) - 15 points, 3 votes#72 (Tie) - Oxventure Dungeons and Dragons! (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult (Starz) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Taskmaster (Channel 4) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Teenage Bounty Hunters (Netflix) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Videogame Dunkey (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - Bluey (Disney +) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - Followers (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - We Are Who We Are (HBO) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 voteRUNNER UP (Tie): Corporate (Comedy Central) - 4 votes, 14 pointsRUNNER UP (Tie): The Eric Andre Show (Adult Swim) - 4 votes, 14 pointsRUNNER UP (Tie): His Dark Materials (HBO) - 4 votes, 14 pointsRUNNER UP (Tie): I’ll Be Gone in the Dark (HBO) - 4 votes, 14 pointsRUNNER UP (Tie): Only Connect (BBC2) - 4 votes, 14 pointsRUNNER UP (Tie): Star Trek: Lower Decks (CBS All Access) - 4 votes, 14 points
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:46 (five years ago)
Fucking delighted
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:46 (five years ago)
very deserving #1, good job everybody
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:47 (five years ago)
10 number one votes! Incredible
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:47 (five years ago)
I may have enjoyed a few other shows more this last year, or rather some may have been more on my wavelength, but when looking back at the shows of the year, there was no doubt in my mind this was the only choice for my #1 spot.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:47 (five years ago)
Ten #1 votes!!! I've been putting this off because it seemed like a degree of heaviness I'll only be able to stomach once life gets back to something approaching normal, but...ten #1 votes!!! Maybe I need to bite the bullet.
Thank u 2 forks and Moka for your exemplary work!
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:48 (five years ago)
I never thought it could be anything else. A staggeringly great show.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:48 (five years ago)
OK, I guess I need to watch this. ILX validation, the final push needed to do so.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:49 (five years ago)
Thanks to forks and moka for running this, got loads of stuff to watch :)
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:50 (five years ago)
Thanks to both and all voters too
― scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:51 (five years ago)
The only show from my ballot that I'm surprised to not see in the countdown is The Outsider, which imo is probably the closest a Stephen King adaptation has come to replicating the feel and the rhythms of a Stephen King novel.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:53 (five years ago)
Nice, expected winner
I didn't participate so can't complain but I see now my favourite show of last year, My Brilliant Friend S2, was not nominated
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:56 (five years ago)
everything on my ballot made it, which makes sense because i have great taste
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:57 (five years ago)
and so do y'all
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:58 (five years ago)
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch),
Yeah this deserved a top 20 placing imo but i didnt vote so
― scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:58 (five years ago)
mostly I'm just glad Aunty Donna did better than Tiger King
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:03 (five years ago)
i've seen at least one episode of 40 of the 87 listed shows, can anyone top that?
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:04 (five years ago)
I have as well, but two of those are only because of the poll, so that probably doesn't count.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:06 (five years ago)
great write-up on I may destroy you forks
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:08 (five years ago)
i'm at 39, but that number goes down significantly if you only count episodes that aired in 2020
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:09 (five years ago)
xp thanks! i have loads more to say about I May Destroy You but likely not some combination of the talent, impetus or lived experience to really do it justicei'll likely rewatch it before the end of the year.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:11 (five years ago)
Got 8 out of my top 10 predictions right. I was doubtful about Curb My Enthusiasm making it but amazed that Perry Mason only made #123. I thought it was much more highly rated around here.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:11 (five years ago)
thanks poll runners!I May Destroy You is frequently heavy yeah, but it is fun too. I knew from Chewing Gum I'd watch everything Coel ever does but.... holy wow
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:12 (five years ago)
Surprised to realize that I've actually seen >1 episode (and in most cases all of the episodes) of at least ten of the ones that placed (aside from Jeopardy because who hasn't seen a ton of Jeopary).
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:13 (five years ago)
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:13 (five years ago)
i will say that if anyone is holding off on watching IMDY because it's "the rape show" and it's going to be heavy, don't. The tone shifts a lot from scene to scene and episode to episode; it's uproariously funny and also utterly devastating, often in the same hour. What it's not is anything that you expect it's going to be and that includes cruel or preachy.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:14 (five years ago)
yes,otm
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:15 (five years ago)
Curb didn't make it, wow! I must have missed loads of great shows here
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:16 (five years ago)
The only show from my ballot that I'm surprised to not see in the countdown is The Outsider, which imo is probably the closest a Stephen King adaptation has come to replicating the feel and the rhythms of a Stephen King novel.― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:53 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:53 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, but a decidedly second-tier Stephen King novel (didn't see the show, but having read the book I wasn't moved to)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:44 (five years ago)