“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

proof of the shoot a guy on 5th avenue bit?

Hard not to be reminded of that bit, yeah.

i posted somewhere sometime ago, along with all y'all and countless others, "imagine making _trump_ your hill to die on." i... cannot.

They actually found a *more* public way to kill someone than in the middle of 5th avenue

xp i mean, it's horrendous morals because gah trump. but it's just such shitty shitty times a million bad judgment. the guy is not a competent authoritarian. he's not even a competent developer. he'd never have to sell you out because he never was with you.

ha typing that i think of whatever it was, like, "let's march to the CAPITOL- and I'LL BE THERE WITH YOU-..."

he's a very good grifter i guess.

it's so insane to me that the republicans are standing by their man, even now

― treeship., Friday, February 12, 2021 8:57 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

You'd think there'd come a time when this would stop being so insane to you? Like, some time a long time ago

It is fear of the base for sure, but don’t underestimate how many of the newer members of Congress are pretty much on board with all of this stuff. Not the actual invasion of the Capitol itself maybe, but just about every other aspect of the entire movement or whatever you want to call it. They openly hate democracy, which is why they spend a lot of time talking about how we are not one. Their contempt for liberals is deep and at least rhetorically violent. They really don’t think there is any legitimacy to anyone who votes against them.

Absolutely every other argument against selling your soul for Trump aside, he's someone who's demonstrated zero sense of loyalty to anyone not named Ivanka. If he is aware of you, he is probably actively seeking out a bus he can throw you under. No matter how venal a sphincter you may be, willful ignorance of that demonstrable fact is the aspect of slavering Trumpism I will never understand.

I mean, I guess I'm just naive or something, but there was a part of me that, yes, even now, thought that there might actually be some consequences for inspiring a mob to literally murder people on the steps of the Capitol.

it's so insane to me that the republicans are standing by their man, even now

― treeship., Friday, February 12, 2021 8:57 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

You'd think there'd come a time when this would stop being so insane to you? Like, some time a long time ago

― Dan I., Friday, February 12, 2021 11:25 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Never admitting defeat/regret when challenged with reasons has been their primary mission statement this entire time. Dig heels in and double down no matter what anyone says ever for any reason. Never give the other team the satisfaction.

aw gee but I'm sure they're just well-intentioned guys at heart! They must just have strongly-held principles that happen to differ from mine, and you have to respect other peoples' beliefs, you know?

that's not the point i'm making at all

in an appearance his niece discussed one absolute core behavior/model for him is to refuse to be _anywhere_ near anything deemed a failure or weak, and to never admit either, ever. and while i knew that intuitively and by casual larfs, her examples of his treatment of covid, of his methods of firing people, and others-- it somehow simplified his behavior traits for me. included in that discussion was his "power of positive thinking" upbringing. because of her lincoln proj ties and fam ties, i'm reluctant to trust much, but this was persuasive to me.

xp ha evan i wrote all this before i saw your post, but YUP

Nikki Haley criticizes Trump and says he has no future in the GOP

lol sure

i was looking to see if that means trump should be "guilty," or if that means "don't worry, the gop got this, it's time to move on." i guess the latter after a scan.

Very Jackie Chiles in presentation.

Hmm

“I’m afraid he’s going to run again and lose because he can do this again,” House impeachment manager Lieu said on Thursday.

“Several of us wrote that down. I think that was a strong statement,” South Dakota GOP senator Mike Rounds said. https://t.co/AKx4JHUbPQ

— John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) February 12, 2021

And signaling that, even if there aren't enough votes to convict (there aren't), there was widespread concern after Tuesday that Trump could lose additional Rs. https://t.co/UP89y2rZei

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 12, 2021

Asked how Trump should then be held accountable, Haley replied, "I think he's going to find himself further and further isolated."

oh ok then

So whattaboutism as defense?

They sent Napoleon far far away to a tiny island; wish that could happen here.

Van Der Veen is a terrible speaker

damn RIP President NIckki Haley

I just listened to 30 seconds of this asshole and don't think I'm cut out for it

That "reportedly" montage was so bad lol

This is so dopey

let me guess they are talking about some windows getting smashed at a Walgreens 8 months ago

guy is ranting that one of the tweets they cited is not really a blue check mark

Uh this reality video is not helping

DUE PROCESS
DUE PROCESS
DUE PROCESS

Lol this is bullshit. The House managers showed the full video and this dude is lying and saying they cut it off

The way Trump says "walk down...TO THE CAPITOL" is so weird.

I was watching when they showed the full video

They didn't say "bring in the cavalry," they said "bring in the calvary" like that hill Jesus died in on! Makes total sense!

This is an actual argument

Yeah, I can't take this. It's basically "Yes, you heard Trump incite the mob, but the House managers cut it off early, before he gave the optimistic message of how much better America will be after he's stolen the election."

"There were some really good people there protesting the removal of the statue of Robert E. Lee, totally a normal thing that normal people protest, because who doesn't like Robert E. Lee?"

The way Trump says "walk down...TO THE CAPITOL" is so weird.

It was like he lapsed into Hank Azaria-doing-Jerry Lewis for a second.

Xpost But they didn't! That's the worst part. Lawyer is outright lying.

Sometimes they showed a shortened video. But they also played the full video at other times.

That's it! He does a "Hey lady..." thing.

Yeah, it's totally Professor Frink.

"the House managers used selectively edited videos", said moments before Trump's lawyers showing actual James O'Keefe style videos

Do the House managers get to speak one more time or is this it

lol, I just saw them playing clips of Warren saying "fight" in the least threatening manner possible.

"bring in the calvary" is some next level denial. Nobody has ever said that without it being a typo.

This is comical at this point. A detailed history of Democrats using the word "fight."

I'm waiting for a clip of George McGovern saying "I watched the Ali-Frazier FIGHT the other night."

I'm impressed by the sheer number of times democrats uttered the word "fight" that didn't immediately result in a violent riot.

is elizabeth warren officially gonna be barred from office for inciting a riot with multiple deaths what is happening