Nathan Barley comes to TV

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AND WHO DO YOU THINK IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO HIM "TAKING THE PISS"

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

I saw Mighty Boosh on the plane and REALLY liked it in parts. It seemed tailor-made just for me! The only problem I have with it is the indie d00d (you know the one) reminds me of my brother. But...where can I see more?

-- adam. (adamr...), September 18th, 2004.
xp hahahaha!

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I MEAN THAT LITERALLY....HIS TV IS IN THE BATHROOM

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I swear that ddb posts from cutty's lap.
rofl

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0487831/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9dGhlIGkudC4gY3Jvd2R8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=20

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

CUTTY IS ON MY LAP.

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

no!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

AM I TOP?

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

After being doubtful upthread, I came to really like Nathan Barley. The first two series of Peep Show are better though.

(IT Crowd ads already on TV!)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:17 (twenty years ago)

n barley's funnier than boosh

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

WAY

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

No WAI

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

I DISAGREE.

BUT BOTH RULE....SO HIGH-5 AMERICAN STYLE!

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

There must be Nathan Barleys in Brooklyn.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

why does it annoy me that people like unfunny crap?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

CAUSE YR LAME?

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:24 (twenty years ago)

You must be projecting something. Let it go. It doesn't change your life and how you feel.

You didn't go to that yoga class that I posted for you.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

You are a little bitter, but not as bitter as Theorry Henry. There's hope for you.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

I see the child inside you still.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

: (

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:28 (twenty years ago)

haha

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 02:48 (twenty years ago)

THERE IS NOTHING IN NATHAN BARLEY AS FUNNY AS:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/mightyboosh/images/gallery/picture11.jpg
NABOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

The love for Peep Show is a bit baffling. Isn't it just more repressed middle-class perma-students who get all flustered about plain girls called Sophie - with not especially hilarious results!

― Merryweather (scarlet), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

In other words the lives of half the men on this board - including me.

― chap who would dare to no longer work for the man (chap), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/video/index.html

First episode of the IT crowd available on the channel 4 site.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

The love for Peep Show is a bit baffling. Isn't it just more repressed middle-class perma-students who get all flustered about plain girls called Sophie - with not especially hilarious results!

uh. yeah. And therein lies the rub.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Jesus... I made it through 9 minutes of that. Again with the laugh track! How can anyone allow that insane canned laughter to be broadcast??

I recognized the one SugaRAPE employee from Nathan Barley in there; is the Robert Pollard lookalike from something else?

Seemed like a watered down mish-mash of Rob Schneider's copy guy / Jimmy Fallon's IT guy (both from "SNL," and both - *shudder* - funnier that this), "Office Space," and any workplace sitcom since "WKRP in Cincinnati."

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

(x-post: Meaning ep. 1 of "The IT Crowd," of course)

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

i can't get this shit to load.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

I only made through 8 or so minutes too but that's more because I want to watch this with the missus on the telly. It's very Father Ted in its lightness and daftness and Morris has clearly been watching his Perrin videos - he's practically channelling John Barron.

Not canned laughter - a live studio audience. Y'know, like sitcoms used to be made before Larry Sanders.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Peep Show has been cancelled.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

i doubt morris is performing in front of a live audience

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Regardless of where the laughter came from (I still say it's canned), it's HUGLEY OBNOXIOUS! You make it sound like "Larry Sanders" did the world a disservice by ridding the planet of that horrible, condescending trend!

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:44 (twenty years ago)

The IT Crowd - Classic or Dud?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)

The IT Crowd - Classic or Dud?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)

(bah, sorry)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)

Someone here went to see one of these being filmed so perhaps they can verify whether (i) Morris was in any of the scenes filmed on the three-walled set and (ii) whether the laugh track on the broadcast edit sounds fake.

Trend? One that lasted about 40 years (and doesn't look like disappearing from the mainstream anytime soon). I don't think the end of the live audience thing was a bad development at all - it's obviously allowed different sort of shows (less theatrical, more filmic) to prosper - but nor do I think that the absence of a studio audience is now a requirement for a decent show.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)

you can say it's canned all you want, but what it means is that the laughter is pre-recorded. which it wasn't for this show. indeed any uk made comedy show.

i laffed.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 28 January 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

i doubt morris is performing in front of a live audience

-- cutty (holle...), January 27th, 2006.

I was there, in the audience, and saw Morris do his scenes. And even fuck one bit up thrice!

It was grand.

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

The laughter isn't canned you boneheads.

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

Michael - on every single show EVER that includes non-diagetic bursts of live audience laughter, the sounds are enhanced in post-production or, often even completely replaced with, pre-recorded and timed bursts of laughter. This is done to account for things like the obligatory audience member who laughs loudly and obnoxiously throughout the taping (so that they can go home and tell their pals "you can hear me laugh like a horse on the next "According to Jim!" - as a TV industry vet, I can assure you this happens at almost EVERY single live taping ever), or audience fidgeting, coughing, etc. This is called "punching," or "sweetening," and it's done to every show that is taped that uses this effect, in the US and the UK.

As for whether or not a laugh track is irrelevant to the all around quality of a show, I would argue that the laugh track (recorded live OR pre-recorded or however you want it defined) is fundamentally condescending - does the audience really need to be told when a joke was told? Or is the laughter somehow supposed to be infectuous?

Of course it's a matter of opinion, but I AM begining to believe that the absence of a live audience (or sound designer's careful approximation of one) IS a requirement for a decent show.

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

(x-post: see clarification of term "canned laughter")

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh lord, you mean sound has to be mixed?! In a STUDIO!? IT'S NOT PERFECT?!

MY BRAIN!

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)

I don't think laughter matters, nor detracts from a good script or good acting.

And interesting that you as an 'industry vet' have heard loud an obnoxious laughter at 'almost every single live taping'. Whereas I've been to numerous tapings and not had this once.

Ditto the coughing, fidgeting. During takes this just doesn't happen.

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)

You get the best stuff in front of a crowd, especially for comedy.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Tracer's point is well taken. Hari, I wasn't trying to be high and mighty about the "industry vet" thing. I've just worked in tv - live and otherwise - for about 12 years now, in the U.S. and abroad. I've seen hundreds of live tapings, and am simply speaking from my experience.

As for your "sound has to be mixed" comment, you seem to be colorfully dodging my point, which is that "canned" laughter is a very specific sound acheived by boosting an audience's actual reaction to suit the producers' needs, whatever they may be.

Again, whether or not you like this sort of thing is obviously a matter of opinion, but the facts remain that recording an audience's laughter is more complicated and loaded than you are saying it is.

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

I liked NB a lot, having been a fan of Brass Eye, Day Today etc, think it's underrated although I only watched it once and missed a couple of episodes. Is it, ahem, easy to find on BitTorrent? (Yes, I'm too lazy to check right now)

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:30 (twenty years ago)

I think that some shows would seem odd without canned laughter. Father Ted for instance, i cannot imagine without canned laughter, it just gives it a lighter feel. And I know that Graham Linehan in particular feels strongly on the matter, and gets annoyed when he reads his shows being discribed as having "canned" laughter rather than studio audience laughter.

I agree that not every take of studio audience laughter is a good take, and it would be foolish to re-shoot a scene because of that, so sound editors probably do overdubs of previous takes which have been better. I do think that having a studio audience gives more of a performance atmosphere, and is perhaps better for getting the best take because you can gauge reaction on the spot - last night I was at the taping for the pilot of 'That Mitchell and Webb Look' (peepshow boys) and often they tried out two or three punchlines and one of them got a big roar of laughter from the audience. I have no doubt that's the one they will use.

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 28 January 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)

sound editors probably do overdubs of previous takes which have been better

The trouble comes when you cross the line (or are perceived to) from that to doing overdubs of previous jokes that have gone over better. And obviously it's not helped by the fact that an audience for a pilot for Teh New Graham Linehan/Chris Morris show are hardly unbiased, and will chortle away to lazy shite like that 'not answering the phone' scene.

(which is probably actually the problem, that laugh tracks make unfunny material much worse)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it partly to do with the timing too? Viewers might not need to be "told when a joke was told", but they need time to laugh at the joke, and not miss the next line of dialogue. Studio laughter makes room for this, by filling up what would otherwise be a strange pause. I definitely feel that in some shows that don't use it (especially peep show), I miss bits because this doesn't happen, and I'll still be laughing at funny line a) so will miss funny line b). Maybe this improves the value of subsequent viewings, but I'd prefer not to need to watch everything twice, to be honest.

― JimD (JimD), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:50 (twenty years ago)

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