“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

Let’s all just forgive and forget, move on

Just watching the video of jan 6 now. Harrowing

Mitch McConnell just voted that it's unconstitutional to try a former president after he blocked a trial of Trump while he was president.

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) February 9, 2021

Fp'd Mitch for that

Fuck Mitch. But this is exactly why I can't watch this shit, it's entirely predictable and we know nothing will happen.

that's the shit that drives me insane. they spent all his last impeachment trial saying "we can't impeach him, the voters picked him", and now it's "we can't impeach him, the voters picked someone else"

<wondering if the gap btw posting in/reading a U.S. politics thread and watching/listening to a presidential impeachment hearing is really so great that it merits essentially putting down ppl who are doing that)

I don't disparage anyone for watching, just noting the absolute predictability of the outcome and actions of the GOP senators that keep me from doing so. Godspeed to any of you all that can sit through this.

Trump team adviser candid on messy opening day for former president's impeachment team. Adviser said Trump could be in serious jeopardy if he finds himself charged in criminal court: “Trump is f*cked if anyone ever charges him. No one wants to work with him.”

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) February 9, 2021

Well, six GOP senators voted "aye"

They're just getting into that dumb sea shanty fad

this is the only guy to change his vote on whether the trial is constitutional: https://www.newsweek.com/gops-bill-cassidy-suggests-senate-impeachment-vote-wont-mirror-constitutionality-vote-1567414

i just watched the video as well. it was shown at the very beginning of the proceedings, which i missed.

those 44 republicans who voted Nay, after all that. what can you say. jfc.

They have a face-saving out: "Doesn't matter what I think, it's unconstitutional!"

is there a way for trump to be held criminally responsible for the insurrection or maybe civilly?

yes, batman.

Wow Cassidy absolutely goes off on Trump legal team

“The House managers were focused, they were organized ... they made a compelling argument. President Trump’s team, they were disorganized, they did everything they could but to talk about the question at hand”

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) February 9, 2021

silly Cassidy - you're not supposed to pay attention to the substance of an argument! no wonder he voted Yay

he's the 6th vote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gops-bill-cassidy-suggests-senate-impeachment-vote-wont-mirror-constitutionality-vote/ar-BB1dty1A

to convict, i mean. he already changed his mind on consitutionality, and now he's smoking, cajun style

Cassidy was bout to just gaggle with reporters in the halls, but then was asked to go to a camera. He agreed, and left the mics smoking.

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) February 9, 2021

for the 44 GOP who voted NAY - i guess...that's it then. there's nothing preventing any of them from changing their minds, except for the logic that if they just voted that it was unconstitutional to try trump, then how could they vote to unconstitutionally convict him?

^^ bingo

The rest of this is a sham from here on out. I'd say the best we hope for is damaging new evidence entered in the court of public opinion to make it less palatable for him to run again.

increasingly isolated

🚨: Trump was very unhappy with his impeachment defense today and was "borderline screaming", according to @KaitlanCollins' two sources.

— Matt Rogers 🗳 (@Politidope) February 9, 2021

The remainder of this is much, much worse than a sham. It's a precedent.

i didn't watch any of this and i think anyone who did has a sickness including all of you, but i like these tweets

Trump impeachment lawyer Castor says he and David Schoen "changed what we were going to do on account that we thought that the House managers' presentation was well done."https://t.co/BY7pGN4vv8 pic.twitter.com/AeVv44zHwI

— ABC News (@ABC) February 9, 2021

“their case was so strong we had to call an audible” feels like a bad development on day one https://t.co/cBUTzNTWEZ

— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) February 9, 2021

that video at the very beginning probably put trump in a bad mood

i had a big lump in my throat. jfc, that day

castor said that kind of stuff, non-stop. that's why i was sadloling at the ILE bingo thing of being like "how are you guys watching this, you wretched beasts!", because it was a non-stop comedy. my stomach hurt from laughing, castor is a genius

Trump desperately wants the 'stolen election' mythos to be the heart of his defense, which is kookoo-bananas but he's paying the bills

and i know you can go back and watch it later, or not. but you truly had to be there, because it was all about the context of castor responding to the very serious and VERY well-delivered impeachment statements (especially liked Joe Neguse - I like listening to him). i mean, a big fart is a big fart, so castor's "opening statements" is always going to be at least a little funny. but this was like a very loud fart in the middle of the big pause just before the beat drops

“their case was so strong we had to call an audible” feels like a bad development on day one

The Republican caucus of the US Senate has already sent a strong and unmistakable signal that Trump's lawyer's incoherent and ridiculous legal arguments are completely irrelevant. I doubt they were even listening.

if that video is seen by a wider audience, I'd call that a positive effect of the impeachment. Trump utterly losing his shit, likewise.

if that video is seen by a wider audience, I'd call that a positive effect of the impeachment.

i agree. for a lot of conservatives, that might be the first they got a sustained look at what actually happened

link?

it's posted lots of places, but here's one: https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/09/965903736/graphic-video-of-capitol-insurrection-opens-trumps-impeachment-trial

possibly the biggest issue with current political news is the extent to which conservatives are utterly shielded from any truthful reporting whatsoever. It would not surprise me if many of them have no idea just how bad this insurrection was. Note that I have zero clue how effective my own bubble is and what I am also missing, but my instinct says it's an asymmetrical effect.

I would imagine that people already predisposed towards supporting Trump would not be watching today, nor would they watch any sources that will air that video.

i fully expect that most of those hypothetical conservative "truth virgins" will, rather than change their minds or admit they were wrong, instead choose to attack the video and find some segment that they've heard on newsmax may not be legit footage, or there is another angle of it that makes that one part at 11:13 look better than it was, is what my son in law says and he watches all of the videos, including some that weren't in that video at all, oh god the poppies are taking me away to where we all write the truth together, which is why i prefer to keep to my own truth for now, before the great reset

but if even like 5% of them did change their minds, that is a VERY positive effect of the impeachment

sorry, that was continuing on from "for a lot of conservatives, that might be the first they got a sustained look at what actually happened"

FEMA will be operating & is authorized for $2 billion as of now. Program is retroactive & will reimburse back to January 2020.

Start collecting docs now. FEMA will need expense documentation (receipts/invoices), death certificate, & docs for caller ID. Includes the undocumented.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 8, 2021

Trump desperately wants the 'stolen election' mythos to be the heart of his defense, which is kookoo-bananas but he's paying the bills

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 5:02 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this defense might be the only way Trump could actually lose the trial

he probably thinks his his team did a good job today apart from when they conceded that the electorate voted for biden.

but here's one:

thx, km

xp to sic

nice! here's the first part of it, too:

It’s official. If you’ve lost a loved one due to COVID-19, you will soon be able to get reimbursed up to $7,000 for the expenses of laying a loved one to rest.

Proud and thankful to have gotten this done with @SenSchumer, @voceslatinasQNY, @Elmcor, & @HispanicFed. https://t.co/wiS03dp4W4

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 8, 2021

$7,000!? Gotta get in on this “dying of covid” scam

bet those chuds who insisted that the official records show their covid-afflicted loved ones died of something unrelated are happy now

no joke, that'll be the conservative take. "it's a giveaway to people who say that their mother died in a car crash but it was because of covid, and it diverts money away from the true heroes: police"

xp brutal, but lol

I disagree with the notion that nothing has changed. 10 Republicans voted to impeach Trump. 11 Rs voted to remove MTG from cmtes. A large majority of House Rs gave Cheney a pass on her impeachment vote. Now 6 GOP senators voted to try Trump. Small but not insignificant moves.

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) February 9, 2021

this is correct and it's not nothing when elections are won by <5%

I expect red MAGA hats will be the equivalent of blackface in a few years: "I was young & stupid, following my parents; I deeply apologize for any hurt I may have caused."

"I deeply apologize"

i do not expect

"I apologize for how you reacted to what I said. I'm sorry that I assumed you weren't a sheep. I am hoping some day you will understand what I know and can see why I reacted the way I did when dealing with your ignorance. MAGA MAGA MAGA"