ILX’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2020

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Ha ha, oh wow. I can't imagine this being my first exposure to their work. Well, you're in for a treat if you choose to dig deeper. Expect things to get real weird.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:46 (five years ago)

I cant work out why I didnt vote for Bobs Burgers, I watch it all the time.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 00:57 (five years ago)

I haven't even heard of more than a half dozen of these shows, am definitely out of it

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:02 (five years ago)

I can understand not getting into Bob's Burgers because it's very silly and low-stakes. But it's maintained its quality amazingly well eleven seasons in.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:11 (five years ago)

Yeah its one of those comfort shows you watch with a hangover/eating tea. Like old Simpsons.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:21 (five years ago)

Fargo was good in the first few seasons. I will watch this season too but I haven't heard as many great things about it

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

btw if you liked this show I strongly recommend Mercier as a kid from Israel who wants to become Parisian in Synonyms, where he does some outrageously good acting. Tons of full frontal nudity from him too if that's your thing.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, February 8, 2021

I really liked the film and him in it, it was hard to believe it was his first acting experience

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

same here. it took me multiple episodes to place him! he's gonna have a hell of a career.

I watched the first episode of the Chris Rock Fargo and bailed; discussion on the thread mostly suggests I did it right. The actors are so great though!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:57 (five years ago)

Fargo S2 > S1 >> S3 >>>>>> S4 (we bailed after 2 episodes)

that's not my post, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:02 (five years ago)

The problem I think with S4 of Fargo is Hawley had been doing Legion for so long it leaked out into the production. There were loads of gloomy dark shots with green tinges, shots down hallways, weird ghosts for no reason, oftn painfully slow pacing.

And Jason Schwartzman I feel was badly miscast.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:03 (five years ago)

There is one really good ep that riffs off Wizard of Oz that I did really like.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:04 (five years ago)

The Mindy Project has been a comfort show over the last few years so I will check out Never Have I Ever

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:16 (five years ago)

Just watched one of the Geowizard Missions video series - great stuff! Youtube had recommended me his geoguesser videos but the Missions one are way more up my alley

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 06:09 (five years ago)

We watched a couple of episodes of Bluey last night because of this thread. It was great. We laughed a lot.

trishyb, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 10:59 (five years ago)

in my head beef house and sex house are the same show even though I watched both and know they have nothing in common

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:43 (five years ago)

Sex House definitely superior. I still try to push that on everyone I can (the name sometimes makes it hard sell).

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:44 (five years ago)

i goddamn loved the OZ episode of Fargo, and i didn't mind the aesthetics (appreciated the old gangster photos). i thought Schwartzman and the nurse were perfect, but didn't really dig Rock; overall it was decent. made it onto my ballot, but it might be the worsts of the 4 seasons. 2>>>3>>1>4

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:45 (five years ago)

We're in the same place: that's my ranking too, but I also voted for 4. (Actually, the further away I get from 1 and 3, I might rank everything except 2 more or less the same. The second season dwarfs the other three.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:50 (five years ago)

Haven't watched the fourth season (and nothing I've heard has me champing at the bit to rectify that) but otherwise that's my ranking, too.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:54 (five years ago)

Have never seen Fargo. Based on the love here for season 2 can I skip right to that or do I need to see season 1 for character depth or something? Or is it total anthology

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:59 (five years ago)

you can definitely watch it on its own

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:00 (five years ago)

there are connections between seasons 1 and 2 (and probably 2 & 4, tho i haven't seen 4 so i can't say what those are), but they're not essential to understanding and enjoying s2

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:01 (five years ago)

The connections between the seasons (and the movie itself) are so incredibly tenuous as to be virtually nonexistent imo. It's essentially an anthology series of season-long stories.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:12 (five years ago)

If you're a Coen brothers fan there's often some easter eggs in them which are nice to spot, but you’ll not lose anything by not having that awareness.

I'd rate 2>1>3=4, the Wizard of Oz episode bumped it up for me, absolutely gorgeous black and white cinematography. I wished they'd done the whole series in black and white.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:24 (five years ago)

might even be fun, if you're going to commit to the entire series, to watch by time period. so i think it would go: s4, s2, movie, s1, s3.

but if you just want to watch the best one, s2 is amazing... and s3 i think it pretty underrated and worth checking out.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:25 (five years ago)

i think season two had a song and a quote from a Cohen bros movie in every episode.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:26 (five years ago)

Great, I will definitely watch s2 and then if so inclined will proceed into the others.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:38 (five years ago)

fargo sucks and noah hawley is a hack

sorry I have to say this once per thread whenever that show is invoked

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:44 (five years ago)

i've seen you repeat that a bunch, but to not belabor the point, why you feel that way?

you can point me to a thread if you don't want to spend too much time on it

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:57 (five years ago)

to put it as succinctly as I can, hawley seems to "get" the coens about as well as twin peaks' other principal writers "got" lynch when he wasn't around to consult

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:13 (five years ago)

TBF, I've never gotten the impression that Hawley was trying to 'do' the Coens.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:17 (five years ago)

I mean, he also made Legion, so whatever he is, it's not a hack.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:21 (five years ago)

Sex House definitely superior. I still try to push that on everyone I can (the name sometimes makes it hard sell).

― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:44 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sex House is one of the top shows of the last decade and I don't understand why it's not universally recognized as a landmark of television

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:23 (five years ago)

you've ruined me!

imago, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:36 (five years ago)

Simon otm re: Hawley and Fargo

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:16 (five years ago)

Thought the first season of Fargo tried hard to emulate the film; the second, I'd say, much less so.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:28 (five years ago)

I guess. Maybe that's why the first season kinda sucked. At any rate, if you didn't stick around long enough to see Bruce Campbell's portrayal of Reagan, you're doing yourself a disservice.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:42 (five years ago)

I thought Reagan was really woven into S2 well. And--maybe I'm reading too much into it--thought the ending, with Mike Milligan relegated to a desk job, was some kind of comment on the dawn of the Reagan presidency.

Trying to remind myself this is the countdown thread, not a Fargo thread--it's just a show I like talking about.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:59 (five years ago)

I guess I'm in the minority, but I kind of preferred S1 to S2. I watched both recently (haven't gotten to the later seasons yet) and, while S2 was definitely well-done, I didn't feel as emotionally connected to it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 22:50 (five years ago)

yah i liked s1 more as well. cant remember why at this point lol.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:07 (five years ago)

Kirsten Dunst made S2 the most memorable for me

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:22 (five years ago)

fargo sucks and noah hawley is a hack

sorry I have to say this once per thread whenever that show is invoked

― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i agree

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:25 (five years ago)

I liked 3 a lot more than the general consensus, prob bc I’m a huge sucker for both coon and thewlis (the macgregor stuff sucks but whatever)

Clay, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:38 (five years ago)

Coon was fantastic, as she always is--best reason to watch S3.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:40 (five years ago)

McGregor stuff was fun at times, but way more po-faced than it would have been in a Coens movie

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:59 (five years ago)

Maybe should do a poll on favorite Fargo character? Think I would favor Alison Tolman from S1.

that's not my post, Thursday, 11 February 2021 01:29 (five years ago)

Allison Tolman was really great, hard to choose between her and Martin Freeman in S1

Dan S, Thursday, 11 February 2021 01:34 (five years ago)

glad this was a day off for forks, who has been working overtime running these polls

Dan S, Thursday, 11 February 2021 01:56 (five years ago)

Run that poll! I think I know who'd vote for, but there at least five or six possibilities for me.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 February 2021 02:25 (five years ago)

"who I'd"

clemenza, Thursday, 11 February 2021 02:25 (five years ago)


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