ILX’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2020

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Beef House is the first thing of mine to place (I may or may not have been the 1 top 5 vote) . Can't argue against "minor," but it did cause me to laugh hard enough to risk passing out at least twice.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

still haven't watched the latest season

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Repair Shop my number one, a little tactically. My #2 (which I guess will win) is just better, easily one of the best things I've watched in years; but this been family lockdown viewing since the start of the year, and it's more like a place we hang out to chill at the end of the evening than a tv programme.
That sofa chatter some of the most comfortable memories I'll have when I look back on this strange time - yelling at repairees who aren't grateful enough, me repeatedly saying 'I should learn to solder', marvelling at Steve, wanting to hang with Lucia, shouting 'that's beneath you' when they do an easy fix on something ugly with skill and good grace, just enjoying the weird fakeness of the idyll.
(Also more coldly fascinated by the World War stuff that just keeps coming. The British fixation on it makes more sense to me when people bring in these mementos from their grandparents' wild adventures - life on hell island so dull & dim & unheroic compared to all the shot-down aircraft, shipwrecks etc that randos 80 years ago lived through)

woof, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

never heard of repair shop but looks up my alley & p good

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Right at the start of COVID, you couldn’t have a conversation without talking about death and Tiger King. So I guess we’ve taken at least one step. Until now.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

ha, i started that poll thread but i could not vote for this.

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

this is definitely the best thing that came from tiger king mania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzY64Qu8HHc

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Tiger king was fun. Will always remind me of early quarantine.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Feels like ages ago yeah. Fun doc but when it became a sort of anti hero worship fest of the dude I lost the taste for it

abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

The psychopathic documentary series this generation dictates, if not deserves. The moral indifference is quite something, but my god does it make for compelling viewing. Creates the good-bad sickness achieved by few documentary series. Didn't feel like there were any 'slow' episodes either. Voted for it.

tangent x (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

Our last show for the day, Mindy Kaling’s teen dramedy Never Have I Ever, does the Netflix trick of keeping most of the trappings of the traditional network sitcom but also introducing PG-13 sensibilities and radically expanded cultural, racial and gender diversity. Also John McEnroe.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

just remembered the part of tiger king where the filmmaker let the park employees know that the jetski guy was an fbi informant lol

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

And here's today's updated wrap up.

#50 - Never Have I Ever (Netflix) - 26 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#51 - Tiger King (Netflix) - 25 points, 6 votes
#52 (Tie) - Fargo (FX) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vot
#52 (Tie) - Ghosts (BBC1, HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#54 - Strictly Come Dancing (BBC) - 25 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#55 (Tie) - Beef House (Adult Swim) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#55 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#57 - A House Through Time (BBC2) - 23 points, 3 votes, 2 top 5 votes
#58 - The Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#59 - GeoWizard Missions (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes, 2 top 5 votes
#60 (Tie) - Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#60 (Tie) - Murder on Middle Beach (HBO) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#62 (Tie) - High Fidelity (Hulu) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#62 (Tie) - Ozark (Netflix) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#64 - Mythic Quest: Raven’s Banquet (Apple +) - 18 points, 5 votes
#65 (Tie) - AEW Dynamite (TBS) - 18 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#65 (Tie) - The Plot Against America (HBO) - 18 points, 3 votes
#67 - The Good Lord Bird (HBO) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#68 - Star Trek: Picard (CBS All Access) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#69 - Dave (FX) - 16 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#70 - 20020 (SB Nation) - 16 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#71 - Bob’s Burgers (FX) - 15 points, 3 votes
#72 (Tie) - Oxventure Dungeons and Dragons! (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult (Starz) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Taskmaster (Channel 4) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Teenage Bounty Hunters (Netflix) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#72 (Tie) - Videogame Dunkey (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - Bluey (Disney +) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - Followers (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
#77 (Tie) - We Are Who We Are (HBO) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

never have i ever was cute

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

Neat results so far, lots of stuff I've never heard of. GeoWizard Missions and A House Through Time have particularly piqued my interest

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

Never Have I Ever WAS cute! Aaah Mindy is the best. The series really picked up in the last few episodes.

tangent x (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

Never Have I Ever was my #1 vote. Idk why Netflix labels it comedy-drama instead of sitcom, since all scenes are played for the lols. Maybe because the writing is excellent and it's smart and poignant throughout?

braised cod, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

there are definite dramatic undertones, what with her dead father and her strained relationship with her mother and best friends. tho i agre, it's no more a drama than scrubs was.

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

Kipo too low! Was my #6 so almost two top 5 votes.

One of the shows I watch with my 10 year old. Beautifully animated, a joy to watch and hard not to get caught up in Kipo's boundless optimism whilst still going to some dark places this season. Great finale too and deserves to become a modern day classic of animation.

― groovypanda, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:43 AM bookmarkflaglink

neat, always keen for good animation, will check out

― imago, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:44 AM bookmarkflaglink

groovypanda OTM, it's a beacon of light and hope. I will say that the animation in the last season was a lot worse than the first season -- I assume the studio had to crunch to finish the series.

Mike Mignola Electric Co. (Leee), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

Beef House my first vote to place, I think I heard about this on ILX, it aspires to be absolutely nothing other than what it is but it is about as well-made an example of the thing that it is as you can imagine

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

have not thought about it between the time i finished watching it and today, and never will again

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

I mean 'note-perfect fake sitcom with bizarre & OTT digressions' is a thing T&E do very well, but they'd already done it several times over before Beef House and it works better in bite-sized chunks IMO (imagine how much impact would be lost if Too Many Cooks had been turned into a series, as a non-T&E example).

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

But yeah, it was funny and fine for what it was but disappointing only inasmuch as it seemed like a step backwards rather than a broadening of the palette.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Oh I've never really watched anything by them before so I have no sense of this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Ha ha, oh wow. I can't imagine this being my first exposure to their work. Well, you're in for a treat if you choose to dig deeper. Expect things to get real weird.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

I cant work out why I didnt vote for Bobs Burgers, I watch it all the time.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 00:57 (three years ago) link

I haven't even heard of more than a half dozen of these shows, am definitely out of it

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

I can understand not getting into Bob's Burgers because it's very silly and low-stakes. But it's maintained its quality amazingly well eleven seasons in.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah its one of those comfort shows you watch with a hangover/eating tea. Like old Simpsons.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link

Fargo was good in the first few seasons. I will watch this season too but I haven't heard as many great things about it

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

btw if you liked this show I strongly recommend Mercier as a kid from Israel who wants to become Parisian in Synonyms, where he does some outrageously good acting. Tons of full frontal nudity from him too if that's your thing.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, February 8, 2021

I really liked the film and him in it, it was hard to believe it was his first acting experience

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

same here. it took me multiple episodes to place him! he's gonna have a hell of a career.

I watched the first episode of the Chris Rock Fargo and bailed; discussion on the thread mostly suggests I did it right. The actors are so great though!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

Fargo S2 > S1 >> S3 >>>>>> S4 (we bailed after 2 episodes)

that's not my post, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link

The problem I think with S4 of Fargo is Hawley had been doing Legion for so long it leaked out into the production. There were loads of gloomy dark shots with green tinges, shots down hallways, weird ghosts for no reason, oftn painfully slow pacing.

And Jason Schwartzman I feel was badly miscast.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link

There is one really good ep that riffs off Wizard of Oz that I did really like.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

The Mindy Project has been a comfort show over the last few years so I will check out Never Have I Ever

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

Just watched one of the Geowizard Missions video series - great stuff! Youtube had recommended me his geoguesser videos but the Missions one are way more up my alley

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link

We watched a couple of episodes of Bluey last night because of this thread. It was great. We laughed a lot.

trishyb, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 10:59 (three years ago) link

in my head beef house and sex house are the same show even though I watched both and know they have nothing in common

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link

Sex House definitely superior. I still try to push that on everyone I can (the name sometimes makes it hard sell).

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link

i goddamn loved the OZ episode of Fargo, and i didn't mind the aesthetics (appreciated the old gangster photos). i thought Schwartzman and the nurse were perfect, but didn't really dig Rock; overall it was decent. made it onto my ballot, but it might be the worsts of the 4 seasons. 2>>>3>>1>4

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

We're in the same place: that's my ranking too, but I also voted for 4. (Actually, the further away I get from 1 and 3, I might rank everything except 2 more or less the same. The second season dwarfs the other three.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

Haven't watched the fourth season (and nothing I've heard has me champing at the bit to rectify that) but otherwise that's my ranking, too.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

Have never seen Fargo. Based on the love here for season 2 can I skip right to that or do I need to see season 1 for character depth or something? Or is it total anthology

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

you can definitely watch it on its own

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

there are connections between seasons 1 and 2 (and probably 2 & 4, tho i haven't seen 4 so i can't say what those are), but they're not essential to understanding and enjoying s2

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

The connections between the seasons (and the movie itself) are so incredibly tenuous as to be virtually nonexistent imo. It's essentially an anthology series of season-long stories.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link


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