“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

I just read The Dialectic of Sex and Shulamith Firestone largely otm

how's the lawsuit vs your folks going

Like I said irreparable

lets just face it, life is the source of all crime so preventing the further spread of it must be seen to be positive.
Judge Death must be seen to have a point surely

I started reading David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming Into Existence but then I thought, eh, life is short.

I haven’t read it but I figure I don’t need to be convinced

Once you've come into existence the harm is already done and "never to have been" is a foreclosed option. So, spilt milk.

benatar is a dick. most popular antinatalism seems to adopt a basically racist faux universalism when it's not being openly eugenicist. if it has to be a thing it should only apply to imperial beneficiaries

white people, more or less

Glad someone linked that Good Housekeeping article. Imagine how much of a crazy nut I would have to be to have made something like that up.

tipsy perhaps I'm having a stroke but

one rallying cry has gained momentum across the country

written on protest signs, on social media, or even on painted street murals

a call from many activists for decades

movement has grown more popular

some organizations are indeed calling for the abolishment

Proponents

supporters of defunding

opponents of defunding

many activists counter

A 2016 report from the Obama White House’s Council of Economic Advisers

Other studies have shown

more and more lawmakers across the United States have been answering the pressing calls

none of these seem to name or specify which people gabbnebb was referring to? And the article seems to draw the opposite conclusion to "lost/settled"? Can you quote the bits you meant, if I'm misreading?

imperial beneficiaries. white people, more or less**

**certain exclusions apply: offer void in Albania, Romania, Armenia, Bulgaria, & select parts of the central steppes.

Xpost my man...all those articles from the time reflect that there wasn’t a wide understanding about what the slogan meant due to the fact that they even exist. If there’s a need to write “here’s what we think it means” articles that’s flawed political messaging full stop (even if the movement and idea has validity as an activist goal). I don’t know why you’re looking for a “and thus we can conclude it is in fact bad messaging” pull quote or w/e.

You can block threads on browser thanks to some script koogs (?) wrote and it is awesome. Not on zing yet.

Most anti-natalists/"overpopulation" zealots are men. Very easy solution there m8s.

https://frinkiac.com/video/S06E18/3Rc87XYGbTfWsw6L7ym7Jk9yVjo=.gif

I’m not a Malthusian, I promise.

I started reading David Benatar's _Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming Into Existence_ but then I thought, eh, life is short.

...and hell is for children.

my man...all those articles from the time reflect that there wasn’t a wide understanding about what the slogan meant due to the fact that they even exist. If there’s a need to write “here’s what we think it means” articles that’s flawed political messaging full stop (even if the movement and idea has validity as an activist goal). I don’t know why you’re looking for a “and thus we can conclude it is in fact bad messaging” pull quote or w/e.

If you just made up some imaginary people in your head to sneer at, it's okay to say so.

Lol again ftr what’s happening here is you still claiming there wasn’t actually a debate about whether “defund the police” meant police abolition or not. And I don’t know how that’s possible exactly. This wasn’t exactly ages ago.

If I've been repeatedly claiming that, surely it would be just as easy to quote me as to assert it out of nowhere.

none of these seem to name or specify which people gabbnebb was referring to?

lol i just googled "defund police good housekeeping" and posted the link. do not have a dog in this at all, I just thought the url was funny.

As an observer, I’m finding this argument impenetrable and pointless and it’s frankly putting me off this thread.

Xpost Sic this whole thing started with you being incredulous about that.

It’s not impenetrable, annoying perhaps but it’s really simple. He painted himself into a corner and he’s being contradictory and pedantic about it instead of taking the obvious L.

The argument is really exactly the same as (abd succinctly summarized in) the exchange between Left and AKM upthread. The difference is Left was able to let it go.

Sic this whole thing started with you being incredulous about that.

apologies to epistantophus, but if this were the case, surely it would be easy to quote me instead of making various assertions about things I've said.

This is a much nicer standard of nark already, biden is healing

If you weren’t objecting below here to the assertion that “defund” advocates were divided about what “defund” actually meant than you should probably rephrase your point..

“the fact that people running with it were divided between

who

The insistence on defund

by who

― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:24 “

I mean it’s either that or you were questioning broader philosophical notions of perception, reality and the self and I should have honestly sought more immediate and specific clarification.

I was asking who you were referring to

Oh? Yeah sorry I thought that was self evident: People who said “defund the police”. Some meant abolish by that. Some didn’t.

about to remove my bookmark

i should have removed the bookmark on the day Deflatormouse posted that TMNT2 clip. hasn't left my head since

I’d like to see a top ten list ranking of threads where Alfred made a point of saying he didn’t like the thread.

Seriously though, we can have a mod unlock the US politics thread from like four months ago or whenever if y'all wanna continue the conversations we were having way back when.

I mean it’s either that or you were questioning broader philosophical notions of perception

lol this is rich coming from mr. "money isn't not real"

I’d like to see a top ten list ranking of threads where Alfred made a point of saying he didn’t like the thread.

― “Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, February 7, 202

Fewer times than you think.

impeccable taste as always alfred

Xpost no that doesn’t work.

I mean Hadrian’s thing.

I said “money is real” not “money isn’t not real”. Tbf both are statements normal people all agree with but I also said it in the direct normal way.

stfu

Tried so hard to be normal for a while but the gabbneb always shines through.

Who

At least now I’m humming Cyndi Lauper

So this is how dreadful the US pol thread used to be.

i was in the big don is not gabbneb camp but i feel like a not-gabbneb would have bothered to find out who gabbneb is rather than always pretending he doesn't know every time he gets accused

I asked who he was. It’s slightly upthread I think.

Wait does he have a Wikipedia page?