I knew Jared Leto was trash even at age 15 when everybody else was crushing on Catalano and I was rooting for Brian Krakow and he still is terrible
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:24 (five years ago)
Lynch's POV only maintains because he has the skill as a director to ply a compelling performance out of even the worst actor. In other hands, much of Lynch's lesser players would flop hard.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:25 (five years ago)
The
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:27 (five years ago)
Bar
Is
Bloom
Ffs
xxxp Krakow (the character) is pretty yuck in retrospect
I remember seeing Devon [something or other] (Brian Krakow) was starring in an erotic thriller after he decided to be taken seriously, and I literally remembered that fact a few years later when I saw Rupert Grint do the exact same thing
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:28 (five years ago)
any good director can ply a compelling performance out of an actor with limited skill-sets, whether it's the stage, or film. it's way less impressive with film because the medium inherently relies less on individual performances to carry the entire thing (though obviously that does still happen in droves).
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:28 (five years ago)
Tho im glad its a chatty thread like
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:29 (five years ago)
this forest is very old.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:31 (five years ago)
any good director can ply a compelling performance out of an actor with limited skill-sets, whether it's the stage, or film
Maybe--I don't know. There are so many bad performances in films by good directors, though. (Start with Hitchcock and De Palma.) Did they give up, run out of time, or just not care?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:32 (five years ago)
wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
any director can do it....but obviously not all of them do. either they have a weird appreciation for some bad performances, or they just said "ehh, the rest of the film is good and we're behind schedule"
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:33 (five years ago)
xxxp Krakow (the character) is pretty yuck in retrospectOh yeah, in hindsight I cringe at how much I identified with his plight at the time.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:34 (five years ago)
And, neanderthal most recently, spells out the goal
Find the actors who have achieved fame and riches for whom it remains false
A quest
None of the names since can be srs suggestions, i beseech yis
Gabriel Byrne, whose being offered as a contender actually prompted this thread, and for the third time, has not been bettered in a lead role vs his turn in millers crossing
Steven segal doesn't count because the "not considered an actor" thing
Stallone has charmed and delivered in many roles, and has been good in several, excellent in at least two (copland, creed- id argue a few of the rockys at least tho!)
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:35 (five years ago)
Tbh "terrible performances in good movies/for good directors" is also an interesting discussion imo
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:36 (five years ago)
Meryl Streep
― mildew and sanctimony (soda), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:38 (five years ago)
Aw would you not!
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:39 (five years ago)
My assumption is that 98% of actors are professionals who are doing their best to follow the director's instructions. Just as I don't think I've gone to see a film because a certain actor was in, I can't recall any film that I thought was ruined by bad acting (OK, maybe Brando in The Missouri Breaks).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:40 (five years ago)
I do not mean that as a hot take, I just hate when she comes on screen. Every role she plays is MERYL STREEP AS ______.
― mildew and sanctimony (soda), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:40 (five years ago)
Ben Kingsley, after his 16th take in Shutter Island: "Is that better, Marty? I think I nailed it that time."
Scorsese: "Ah, fuck it, do whatever you want."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:41 (five years ago)
Long Black Line was her best role imo
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:41 (five years ago)
xpost?
My assumption is that 98% of actors are professionals who are doing their best to follow the director's instructions.
― mildew and sanctimony (soda), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:41 (five years ago)
Oh you know someone more recent who's been celebrated way out of proportion to her ability is Shailene Woodley. I just dngi.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:42 (five years ago)
But the bar is radcliffe, bloom, knightley
Tisnt "plays the role as themselves" its "cannot perform a role at all"
we're talking bumping into the camera level here
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:42 (five years ago)
eomer is less fun to watch than legolas. eomer never took down an elephant thing.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:43 (five years ago)
Im about giving up mind you
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:43 (five years ago)
Karl urban p good as bournemeat and bones imo
Fair, darragh. In which case, I nominate Orson Welles, whose greatest accomplishment was making himself seem competent as an actor.
― mildew and sanctimony (soda), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:44 (five years ago)
this would be a lot easier if someone would make it clear what the bar is
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:44 (five years ago)
it was bones that made me feel like i was actually tripping. good as dredd tho yes. "only good as dredd" is presumably the platonic counterargument to "range is fake"
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)
Kevin Costner
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)
Lookit ye will have yere fun and im wise enough to know when a party is best left tire itself out
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)
Have you seen Big Little Lies, OL? I thought Woodley was good in that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)
OK Portman << Knightley
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:46 (five years ago)
Imagine radcliffe in any role/performance offered and know in your bones you are a liar tho
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:46 (five years ago)
I think Ryan Phillipe is a pretty terrible actor but I'm not sure who would disagree with that too strongly and I'm also unsure of who but me is even thinking of Ryan Phillipe in 2021.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:46 (five years ago)
Michael Cera
― mildew and sanctimony (soda), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:47 (five years ago)
and Spacey is execrable but we knew that
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:47 (five years ago)
xxpost take yr fantasies to #twothread
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:47 (five years ago)
I nominate Orson Welles, whose greatest accomplishment was making himself seem competent as an actor.
lol it's true that other directors deploy him as a prop. (even reed?)
still tho no.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:47 (five years ago)
i like in gosford park when ryan phillipe says
would that be hot milk... or cold
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:48 (five years ago)
Have you seen _Big Little Lies_, OL? I thought Woodley was good in that.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:49 (five years ago)
deems, I think you're going too hard on Radcliffe inasmuch as he is a child actor who is now an adult, so on that front he's actually doing okay for himself, he may not be any competition for the classically-trained crew but let him have his fun if it keeps him off the drugs I say
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:52 (five years ago)
Radcliffe as black swan
Just sitting there, blinking owlpotterishly, like his mother first demanded when he was 8 and scared and cameras flashing and he just wanted to please everyone
Poor fucker, soul half-formed, praised for looking about right while the same ghoul who feasted on m culkins innocence descended upon him with a script by jk fuckin rowling, sorry kid this is your life now
I mean imagine the deserted wreck of a human thus formed in black swan
Ive no idea where bloom emerged from. The pinch of a demon through the cloth of a darker fucking universe than this, and we let it spawn with katy perry and on the cusp of this squall of horror ive smart fuckers slagging off meryl streep well tear it all down i say ill go smiling if even one of youse animals is dragged with me meryl streep honest to christ
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:53 (five years ago)
Spacey Hopkins malkovich all not quite but def in the second circle, possibly with harris
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:54 (five years ago)
Oof phillippe is really, really bad, good shout furst new contender since knightley imo
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:55 (five years ago)
xpost ah, it's such a treat to have u back
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:55 (five years ago)
there are no worst actors, it's who you like or not
― Dan S, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:56 (five years ago)