“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

In even dumber news, somehow, though...

UPDATE: Some senior Dems are looking at lowering threshold on stimulus payments so they start phasing out above $50K for single taxpayers; $75K for heads of households; & $100K for married couples

Stressing here: Talks fluid, conversations are ongoinghttps://t.co/0lZ8MKuqbt

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) February 2, 2021

xpost If she's talking about the TV show, she's probably right.

Honestly, creating the Space Force was one of maybe 3 things the ex-president did in four years that was funny, rather than depressing, disgusting or infuriating.

lol @ those Adomian videos

the space force reply thread has some gold in it

Sorry but every time i see this thread title I think of TMNT2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHNS_lYEFS4

nothing he did seemed funny at all to me, it was all sinister

Agree. My grandfather is a veteran of the Space Force and this sickens me. He didn't witness attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, or watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate so future generations can disrespect his service.

— Jesse McLaren (@McJesse) February 2, 2021

sorry to curse this thread more than is strictly necessary with brigitte gabriel content but this made my jaw drop so now it can make all of your jaws drop too

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/722528529716383744/1599265843/1500x500

and one of my favs, socialistdogmom

brigitte, how is it possible to lick boots they haven’t even designed & manufactured yet? this is truly an innovation in bootlicking!!!

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) February 3, 2021

licking gravity boots

I mean, as someone who would be affected by lowering those thresholds, I’d be ok with it — but also, neither my or my wife’s work has been affected. There are plenty of people who were at our income level in 2019 who are in trouble now, and I don’t know how they can account for that.

It's a completely pointless own goal to lower the threshold.

VOTE FOR US GET THOSE $2000 CHECKS
WE MEANT $1400
NOT YOU

I assume anything like that is because they need 50 votes not like 46.

I would like to preemptively go on record in condemning those who will someday dare to mock the exploits of the brave SeaQuest DSV crew.

The dems promised $2000. They've made no promises about future stimulus payouts. They need to bite the bullet and figure out how to get $2000 payments into the hands of everyone who previously received a COVID stimulus payout. Any deviation from that is just stupid. Bad business. People aren't going to forgive or forget if you fuck around with their money.

Any deviation from that is just stupid.

I agree it would be stupid, but because power is divided into lots of tiny bites and widely distributed among all the senators, in a 50-50 senate that stupidity can be located in just one stupid stubborn asshole of a senator playing to their home state and still become operative for the entire relief package. Nobody feels this home truth more keenly than the democratic leadership. They are shackled to it and will be blamed for any shortfalls in relief. This doesn't inspire me to pity them, but I see its primal force in how all this turns out.

the power is divided widely but not evenly. The leadership you cite wields tremendous power that in more capable, urgent hands would get Joe Manchin in line, by carrot or stick

yeah i get that the senate is run very differently than the House, but if it really is just ~4 assholes, it seems like there's got to be better ways to get the Sinemas and the Manchins et al in line.

it really does feel like as long as individual and 'important' dem pols can keep their own seats, and the specter of a quite literally insane GOP continues to be a fundraising bonanza, many democrats simply do not care if they're the majority party or not. hell, some may even prefer it that way.

Seriously, everyone trying to dunk using the “you said $2000 but now it’s just $140” just looks like an idiot to me

omg it's only $140 now? I already made a facial appointment!

A real idiot move to, uh, quote Biden, Ossoff and Warnock about cutting $2000 checks.

what about the "idiots" for whom $600 means not getting evicted

They should have learned to code IIRC.

I guarantee that if the checks are for 1400 not 2000 then it will be used against warnock by his gop opponent next year.

A supermajority of the country backs this stimulus bill, we better means test the fuck out of it to make it more divisive.

FWIW I don't personally care all that much if I get $2000 or $1400 or $0 (I still haven't received the $600 payout). I've been lucky enough to remain gainfully employed throughout this nightmare and I'll happily take that much. But when dems were explicitly running on the promise of $2000 stimulus checks and people who've been struggling for the past year cast votes at least partially on the basis of that promise, it's extremely bad form for them to be all 'well, actually...' about it now that they have control of Congress and the WH. And I think it'll come back to haunt them if they don't deliver.

despite not one single person in the democratic party nor any of their proxies saying anything about "$1400 to make u whole", my comment was about dems (possibly) consenting to lowering the income threshold. which seems like a terrible idea.

but since it's been brought up, i'm more amazed at the idea that there's somehow a fundamental difference between the $1400 & the $2000 to anyone EXCEPT the people who *actually need* the checks. all while trillions have flown out the door for corporate interests and not a single tear or concerned chin stroke. honestly they should pay every man woman and child in america a thousand dollars for every month that Trump was president. hell, round it up to an even $50k.

MASHUP: $2,000 STIMULUS CHECKS. pic.twitter.com/XBHhcp7l8y

— Watchdog (@demswatchdog) February 1, 2021

Why would Manchin and Sinema want to reduce the threshold? Who gains any points by reducing that threshold? Are they beholden to some strange constituency that prioritizes fiscal vigilance over everything? $2000k at the previous threshold benefits the vast majority of the people they represent, regardless of party.

haha obviously I meant $2k, or $2000, not $2000k

Are they beholden to some strange constituency that prioritizes fiscal vigilance over everything?

Donors, Third Way and op-ed pages.

I bet the % of americans that know the dems promised $2000 (as opposed to another amount) is under 30%.

Might be under 15%, now that I think about it.

I don't even own an american

i wouldn't mind seeing a poll of Georgians who showed up to vote for Warnock & Ossoff.

no one even paid attention to what they were saying for the entirety of December, no news coverage

lol

I bet the % of americans that know the dems promised $2000 (as opposed to another amount) is under 30%.

I give up. You brain geniuses should go work for Dem political campaigns keeping track of all the brutal self-owns.

not sure how the Republicans, who are pushing for $0 for anyone who doesn't own a puppy euthanasia clinic, are going to effectively campaign on that

Repeat after me:

I am not smarter than Joe Biden.
I am not smarter than Kamala Harris.
I am not smarter than Nancy Pelosi.
I am not smarter than James Carville.

But if I l stand back and watch and learn,
I will be smarter than I am.

— Silent Amuse 🥁🐝💛🌊🌊🌊 (@SilentAmuse) January 21, 2021

xp the Republican running against Warnock wouldn't be on the record voting no on this stimulus but when has that mattered to the modern GOP anyway? "Senator Warnock promised you $2000 - what did you get?"

Obstructing anything good for the last 3/4 of Obama's era didn't stop them blaming him and Democrats for things not getting better.

now, as in 2009-10, they don't even have to obstruct, Democrats will eagerly shoot themselves in the foot given an opportunity.

More than the amount of stimulus or means-testing, how can this give you any hope they're willing to do the things necessary to not get fucking slaughtered in the midterms? Negotiating against themselves on a stimulus in a pandemic - you really think a $15 minimum wage is going to survive? Moving the FICA cap to $400k and raising SS payments?

it won’t be ppl changing sides to the GOP because they felt they were mislead; it will be lots of folks — probably younger, some who might have been first timers in 2020, gig workers and min wage earners — who would normally have been sure bets as Democratic voters just dropping out of the process altogether.

James Carville?

wow

the nineties called

no, he went back to Narnia

Carville continued his political consulting with work as an advisor to Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. In remarks on then rival candidate Senator Barack Obama, Carville declared in 2007 that Barack Obama was the Democratic candidate "most likely to explode or implode."[73]

Carville told The New York Times on March 22, 2008, that New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, who had just endorsed Senator Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination, was comparable to Judas Iscariot. It was "an act of betrayal," said Carville. "Mr. Richardson's endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic," Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

In January 2020, Carville endorsed Colorado Senator Michael Bennet's unsuccessful campaign for the Democratic Presidential nomination.[86] Remarking of Bennet during the campaign season: "this is John Kennedy recloned, you can't get any better than this guy."[87] Bennet, who leaned hard on Carville's endorsement, garnered 963 votes in New Hampshire, or 0.3% of 300,022 total Democratic ballots cast in a year of record-shattering turnout.[88][89][90]

Bennet is Q

In another era, Bennet and Delaney would have gotten a prime time CNN show together.

The fuck are you guys doomposting about James Carville?