What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

I mean, I hope there's hope too! And I have no insights into how she or Pressley or Tlaib got on FSC--except that it was unexpected, and AOC implies that she had no ability or interest in promising to make large donations/fundraise for the DCCC in return. (I consolidated some of that interview, she goes into slightly more detail about how the DCCC had been unsupportive in progressive races.) I'm thrilled that Pressley and Tlaib ended up on that committee too and they've all been amazing. If Waters *was* stuck, at that time, with high-ranking FSC members abandoning ship because they couldn't be as corrupt as they had gotten accustomed to being, she was probably happy to get rid of them! And get progressive women of color in their places! Imo that's a net gain all around.

Specifically I was reacting to Don saying that "she got good committee assignments" as proof that there wasn't significant tension between her and the party and that it was "deranged" to think there was hostility there. Dem leadership is not adequately protecting its progressive members and that is terrifying if that's the best they can hope for.

What’s the thing about Dem leadership not protecting its progressive members come from? I mean beyond the broader security issues that put all the Dem reps at risk on 1/6

excellent posts djp

It is terrifying, yes. It's also an artifact of the Democratic politician's assumption that the loonies are all talk, no action, and that the country is inexorably marching towards their point of view so there's no need to push/sell people on their viewpoints as they are just Common Sense. It's their hubristic complacency that hamstrung the latter part of Obama's presidency, warped AMA into a form that hurts as many people as it helps, and creates gigantic blind spots in how their agenda is being interpreted and what people in this country are thinking at any given time.

I will say that I don't expect the DCCC of the past few years to wholeheartedly embraces a fully progressive agenda so I understand why they would have candidate priorities different from AOC and I understand why she wouldn't want to fundraise for them. I think that's understandable and good tension and it would be odd to me if it didn't exist. I still don't think that means the Democratic establishment is intentionally with full malice attempting to endanger and harm its progressive members, particularly since AOC, Tlaib, and Pressley all retained seats on the FSC after its size was contracted. None of this is to say that the Democratic leadership has done a great job of integrating and supporting the progressive members that have joined them in Congress but it isn't in any of their interests to set them up to fail and, if there's one thing we can depend on national politicians to do, it's act in their own self-interest.

I'm concerned that the difference between full malice or complacency won't matter if something happens. Various republicans have been refusing to go through metal detectors for a month now. I hope Cori Bush's resolution to investigate/remove reps from the House for voting against certifying the election goes somewhere, although Idk what its chances are.

I share that concern but I also think it's easier to get someone to take you seriously if they haven't been paying as much attention to you as they should have been paying than when they actively hate you and want you to fail.

I also think the insurrection shook some of the complacency off of the Democratic Party as a whole, who are absolutely making moves and staunchly supporting positions they would have tepidly offered up as fodder for bipartisan compromise two months ago.

looks like a bunch of right-wingers are accusing her of making the whole thing up because she wasn't in the main capitol building at the time

kind of summarizes conservatism as a whole, just because *they* make up shit that's so easily debunked, it must mean the other side would as well

Friendly reminder to keep generously tipping your bartenders, servers, delivery, venue, and hospitality workers. ☺️🌹 https://t.co/gjxRaNEtfe

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 13, 2021

(And no this is not intended for magic the gathering players, you’re cool w/ me)

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 13, 2021

i'm not sure what this reference is, but you have to appreciate a politician shouting out M:TG

Marjorie Taylor Greene

It's just a reference to Manu Raju shortening Marjorie Taylor Greene's name to MTG.

she really does have the best fadeaway jumper in the game

Nice

you're cool w/ us too

— Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic) May 13, 2021

Greene's arms too short too box with god

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i wonder who's going to win in the cool-off between fucking AOC and MTG

“Talking to her. She says screaming. You know what screaming is? Screaming is what people do when rockets are fired at them like Hamas terrorists are firing into Israel,” Greene told reporters.

MTG is the beating heart of...something

it's like she speaks with the obvious intent to get quoted somewhere after, but has no idea what makes a statement quotable

And now it’s revealed that this person showed up to members of Congress’ doors with folks from the mob who infiltrated the Capitol, beat Capitol Police, and strung up nooses in front of the House.

If the shoe were on the other foot, the GOP would be calling for my expulsion. https://t.co/ccN01sjbBk

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 14, 2021

New: A since-deleted video from 2019 shows MTG harassing @AOC's office through a locked door. Calling her "crazy eyes" and telling her through the office's mailbox slot to "get rid of your diaper" while telling the office to open the door and come out. https://t.co/QgcJucs4o8 pic.twitter.com/ccTufF90Z9

— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) May 14, 2021

this stupid menace needs to go

if any democrat - let alone AOC - did anything remotely close to this, it would be all over fox and the #1 they talked about for MONTHS until she was forced to resign

Shit, half the Dems would be calling for her to resign.

like Hamas terrorists are firing into Israel

Ah I see the update finally finished downloading, was briefly concerned when she was still screaming about antifa terrorists

like Hamas terrorists are firing into Israel

the cruelty of people like MTG escapes out of their pores. you can see it especially when they get flustered irl and come up with a counterattack on the fly - it's completely unrelated to what was being discussed, and also it manages to be despicable and wrong in a completely different way

a close bigot in my life used to do that. the issue would be stuff like "stay on the trail" and he would immediately flip to "but YOU probably had an ABORTION!"

but imagine being like that, and then being rewarded for it by your own constituents, and there's no one left in the party to tell you "no". she's a fucking mess

the people of GA district 14 can go fuck off too

i kind of want to go there and troll her constituents as she trolls the rest of the country on their behalf

maybe i should go yell things at them through their front doors

yeah she's like a right-wing blog comment from 2003 made into a human, screaming "Chappaquiddick" at you when you voice the opinion that maybe torture is bad

I guess I am slightly curious if those three idiots realized how much their three little pigs routine looked like an amateur horror movie

the cruelty of people like MTG escapes out of their pores. you can see it especially when they get flustered irl and come up with a counterattack on the fly - it's completely unrelated to what was being discussed, and also it manages to be despicable and wrong in a completely different way

maybe they've been doing this forever but I've noticed this a ton since the Trump era, you can't talk to them about anything without them flipping to the one topic they actually want to discuss. "the destruction of our environment? if you ask me the real issue facing the American people is the destruction of emails, but you never want to talk about that, I wonder why"

lmao but they have been doing this for a while for sure. It may have taken on a more cult-like vibe since 2016 though

And if the target does the smart thing by refusing to engage when they ambush out of nowhere, they screech about how they "refuse to debate".

also I mentioned this in the Politics thread but she talks exactly like On Cinema Tim: "Alexandra Okay-sio Cortez. I'm an American citizen. I pay your salary through the taxes you collect from me through the IRS. Because I'm a taypaying citizen of the United States. I'm a woman, and I'm a female...business owner. And I'm proud to be an American woman. And I do not support your socialist policies and I do not support your murderous abortion...policies"

These are as bad as policies can get and it's so horrible that they're still making these kinds of policies

she talks exactly like On Cinema Tim

otm. it's like how trump is just Tim's Decker

I really wish she didn’t start whatever that is with Taylor-Greene, she is so above all that.

No it’s very funny and cool actually

I suppose those are the two adjectives that matters the most today.

I think it's the way she constantly loses her train of thought, like she gets 10 words into a sentence and just forgets what she's talking about. like she's so excited to get to yell at AOC through a mail slot but all she says is like "as a mother of 3, I do not support abortion", which is uh....what? the one thing people mention a lot about Tim is how good he is at speaking like a person who's suffered some kind of brain damage. not saying that Republicans necessarily have brain damage but uh...well, I guess I am

p sure MTG "started" this by harassing AOC?

p sure none of this is going to hurt MTG in any way

yeah it's kind of feeling like the lesson they learned from the Roy Moore thing was to dig their heels in even further. wonder how that's gonna play out when Gaetz gets arrested.

I really wish she didn’t start whatever that is with Taylor-Greene, she is so above all that.

this is a really weird take on this, considering MTG has been after AOC for quite some time. AOC didn't start shit, she's been trying to do her job despite an unhinged lunatic literally stalking her at her workplace.

some would say that MTG started the beef in 2019 when she was yelling through AOC's door and her staff was probably like who the fuck is this

but then again, rumors are that in 2018 AOC picked a fight with MTG at a 4th of July picnic in MTG's neighbor's backyard

didn't MTG claim last week they'd "agreed to a debate" on the Green New Deal even though the "agreement" was apparently just her yelling at AOC on the floor of the House

idk this is just another version of the Trump problem, you can't interact or cover these people without lending them some air of credibility, and when they're literally at the highest levels of government you can't exactly ignore them like any other lunatic