Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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" It (the BBC) thrills to the sound of noisy, ill-informed contrarians."

at least he got one thing right! I think the Monbiot got the Rona himself recently. Lol @ the idea that Hitchens can be reasoned with.

calzino, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 10:26 (three years ago) link

Yeah, he's not wrong about the complete lack of responsibility displayed by the BBC and others, and that the format of combative opinion driving news is dangerous.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 10:28 (three years ago) link

The Beeb have been inviting idiots to speak their brains on national/local TV and radio for decades, this is hardly a new situation

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 10:55 (three years ago) link

The Cancer Act is an interesting comparator. You occasionally see homemade flyers promising to cure all cancer ills from some local medicine man but they are (notionally) dealt with by the Advertising Standards Agency. I'm sure there's loads of word-of-mouth and blogs about curing cancer with orange juice or something but I'd imagine they fly just the right side of 'we can't say this will definitely cure you but come and see us to discuss your holistic curated plan'. But otherwise I'd say (based on no data whatsoever) it's been fairly successful at what it set out to do. I wonder if you could even bring any equivalent in now?

SV otm - it's all the misinformation and more subtle dogwhistling, that you couldn't legislate against. Plus this current near-insistence that on any issue you fall into one 'camp' or another and must remain loyal to that camp. Media literacy and critical thinking is more important than ever.

kinder, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

Good points all round, but I definitely wouldn't call this "completely nuts" since it's a position that's been around at least since Walter Lippmann

rob, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

Have you ever read 1994 Harris being utterly bewildered by Aphex Twin? It's glorious. pic.twitter.com/IE1bk1v4LK

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) January 30, 2021

an exquisite vintage from the JH archive

calzino, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

He is such a witless tosser and the perfect voice of a sizeable chunk of the Graun's readership

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:14 (three years ago) link

John Harris United Kingdom The Guardian Journalist Writer, united kingdom, author, news, moustache png

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Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:21 (three years ago) link

He uses "trendy" as a noun in that review, classic sign of a cunt

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

is that a transparent background or is he back at the mod club?

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

Everything about him is transparent.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

mark s would give him a kicking for using "wondrous" as well!

calzino, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:27 (three years ago) link

can't believe it took me until last week to find out he has an Oxford PPE

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:28 (three years ago) link

proper prick?

calzino, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

Can see why he loves proper working class folk and their music then

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:31 (three years ago) link

it's been a very successful grift for nearly 30 years, and he doesn't have a backup grift to fall back on?

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:33 (three years ago) link

This list has lots of people I expected to see, and also plenty I didn't.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Oxford_people_with_PPE_degrees

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:37 (three years ago) link

Strong argument for nuking Oxford

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:41 (three years ago) link

Non-UK Politicians is where that really kicks off imo

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link

oh wait hang on it subsequently kicks off even more. Will Self!

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:45 (three years ago) link

oh shit actually all the architects of doom are there. my god

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

Self may be the least objectionable person on that list

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link

that isn't far off the truth

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:58 (three years ago) link

There are quite a few people I like, Dennis Potter did it too! But the list is about 25% straight-up evil and another 50% are we could say "overachievers" in their professional lives

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:59 (three years ago) link

It's the journalists that really sting. They're all in the same nauseating club as the cunts they're meant to be holding to account

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:01 (three years ago) link

Paul Gambaccini!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:50 (three years ago) link

less PPE more PPE

nashwan, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link

I need some PPE to protect me from PPE's

calzino, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

to controps a wee bit on this, the issue with oxford PPE as a degree is that it is (or anyway was) capacious enough to sport a large ambitious subset happy to go all in as a kind of club or gang of backslapping n backwatching n backstabbing wronguns on the rise together

(lol i think 9 ppl in all took the same combined finals as me <-- indie as fvck)

mark s, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

UK weather: 'messy mix' of wintry conditions expected

this article has been hanging around the UK headlines front page for a couple of days now. i tend to have an adverse reaction to weather journalism anyway but the sum total of this seems to be “it’s winter”? for noobs?

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 07:51 (three years ago) link

It’s Britain. This is what we read.

Madchen, Sunday, 31 January 2021 08:25 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/feb/06/in-praise-of-eggs-use-them-like-a-broom-to-sweep-everything-together

I tried this but my kitchen floor ended up even filthier than before.

ledge, Friday, 5 February 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

best sticking to playing table tennis with them

calzino, Friday, 5 February 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

it only works if your mates have a spare flat to keep your eggs in

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 February 2021 04:35 (three years ago) link

i, for one, lolled

Very brave of Marina to go after her entire audience like this. pic.twitter.com/oJOiRGeZXw

— Shrieking Tinman (@phased_bemused) February 6, 2021

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 February 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

Context aside, idk how well the Guardian approach of hiring people prominent on Twitter and trying to control what they post there will work.

One of the most serious threats to free speech is the silencing of criticism of the government of Israel.

I have now found this out the hard way, having just been fired as a Guardian columnist for sending a tweet about US military aid to Israel https://t.co/EEfLqjY1IM

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) February 10, 2021

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

are we sure it's not because they finally read his work

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

truly appreciate the many supportive tweets beginning "I can't stand Nathan Robinson, BUT" or "Nathan Robinson is an insufferable preening grifter ponce, BUT"

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) February 10, 2021

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

haha

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

i was going to say maybe they saw his clobber

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

that tweet is honestly the most human-sounding verbal expression i've ever seen from nathan j robinson

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link

Haha I listened to him read the audiobook about being a socialist and he reminded me of every socialist I met at the Oxford union

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

This is something..

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/11/naim-attallah-obituary?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

The obituarist died before the subject of the obituary.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 12 February 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

Yes, always like it when that happens.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 February 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/14/race-gender-oppressed-can-be-oppressors-too-kemi-badenoch

Extraordinary stuff from Sonia Sodha in The Observer.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:43 (three years ago) link

I guess having denounced the left as racist, ‘trans allies are no better than racists’ was inevitably next.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:49 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, “race traitor”, that concept and insult so common on the left.

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

it's like a vicar who can tell any anecdote from their life or the news and spin it to be about the sermon on the mount

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:55 (three years ago) link

the kind of people Ed had advising him as labour leader eh?

calzino, Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:56 (three years ago) link


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