outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

we're going to die but we're not going to die.

the vaccines are great and the vaccines are terrible

COVID's going to end but it's also going to be here forever.

bob is my uncle and

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/us/politics/biden-coronavirus-vaccines.html

WASHINGTON — President Biden, under intense pressure to speed up the pace of coronavirus vaccination, said Tuesday that his administration was nearing a deal with two manufacturers that would enable 300 million Americans to have their shots by the end of the summer.

this is great news for people in states that are getting shots into arms quickly. (it makes no difference for states that are fucking up distribution e.g. california, and it would be good for the federal govt to step in there, but still you take what you can get.)

also we're now fully vaccinating people at approximately the rate new positive tests occur (200k-ish/day).

that's not the same as saying "we're vaccinating people faster than they catch it" (which is obviously what we want), because the number of positive tests is an underestimate of the number of people who catch it each day. but it's a good sign!

that's true! and a good metric to keep an eye on. (IL distribution has also been bad...is it good anywhere? i haven't heard any good things)

my state is pretty much fucked because we're run by a mini-Trump who resists the 'evil helping hand of the Fed'. doesn't want "FEMA camps", lies or distorts the number of vaccine distributed.

guessing protests will start back up when numbers creep down a lil more (which they've been doing in FL for the last week or so)

that's true! and a good metric to keep an eye on. (IL distribution has also been bad...is it good anywhere? i haven't heard any good things)

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:06 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

west virginia, israel.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

to be fair florida is exactly the US average

Is this a MAGA thread now? Or is Biden’s “deal” not going to come at the expense of other countries’ deliveries of the vaccine?

my state is pretty much fucked because we're run by a mini-Trump who resists the 'evil helping hand of the Fed'. doesn't want "FEMA camps", lies or distorts the number of vaccine distributed.

guessing protests will start back up when numbers creep down a lil more (which they've been doing in FL for the last week or so)

― if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, January 27, 2021

DeSantis doesn't have any control over the fed, though, but he's made his comments for the record and for the sake of his presidential run.

This is the result of spreading dangerous covid conspiracies btw pic.twitter.com/hQx9rI3pn6

— 🦋midoriya 🦋 (@kemz_1) January 26, 2021

No idea why ladbible is now a journal of record but the full story is here

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-man-removed-from-hospital-after-trying-to-discharge-covid-19-patient-20210126

They should absolutely have left that guy go. Like, be my fucking guest (and hope you don't infect anyone else outside your stupid family before you die).

The doctor said: "My main concern is his safety and at the moment you are making him unsafe. He's taken his oxygen off, he's going to die if we don't put it back on."

The patient responded: "No I'm not."

http://i.imgflip.com/1ao41s.jpg

I mean, securing the 200M additional doses is a good thing, but I’m still not hearing any plan on how to address the complete failure in distribution. That appears to be the biggest problem we’re facing.

Also, I’m not sure Trump supporting Republican state leaders are entirely the problem, Illinois has a Democrat for governor that was loudly anti-Trump all along and we are one of the worst states in the country for distribution.

They should absolutely have left that guy go.

that was my first reaction, too. which is probably why the guy in the video is a doctor and i am not!

I mean, as a non essential worker that has no other high risk factors and is under 45, I'll be in the last group (rightly so) and I initially assumed my first jab would be around June of 2022. I've yet to see anything in my state's distribution statistics to disprove that, in fact, since we've actually seen dropping numbers of the doses coming into our state in recent weeks, I'm starting to wonder if that might be overly optimistic.

I mean, securing the 200M additional doses is a good thing, but I’m still not hearing any plan on how to address the complete failure in distribution. That appears to be the biggest problem we’re facing.

Also, I’m not sure Trump supporting Republican state leaders are entirely the problem, Illinois has a Democrat for governor that was loudly anti-Trump all along and we are one of the worst states in the country for distribution.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:59 AM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Florida is doing a better job at vaccine distribution than NY. It hurts to admit this, but it's true.

I think it's hard to imagine we wouldn't have a better vaccination distribution plan by now if we had had Hillary or Biden (or Bernie!) for the last four years. By which I mean any plan, as there wasn't one. At the same time, we have a disjointed system of government and a disjointed private healthcare system and some of the problems are beyond the reach of the federal government. It's not all Trump.

AK is doing great, as far as I can tell. This fall, people kept telling me about an open position at the school I student taught at in Sitka, AK, but I didn't apply because I didn't want to move to Sitka. All the teachers I know there just got their second shot.

larry hogan has been holding weekly press conferences to lie about how great things are going (we are in like 40th place), and said that teachers don't need vaccines to get back into the classroom by march 1.

there is no health "system" in the US, obv, which is the problem. on the other hand, freedom

one of the things that really struck me in a recent podcast I was listening to is that apparently due to the US's lack of a system, we aren't very good at sequencing the genomes of the variants and aren't tracking them very well. The UK is able to do this because of the NHS.

Correct. The only reason there are no “US variants” is because we wouldn’t know if there were.

I've actually suspected for a while now that there are weaker variants in the US. It's anecdotal, but based on the difference between the experience of the handful of people I knew who got COVID early in the pandemic and had really bad experiences compared to the dozen or so recent ones, none of whom have had particularly bad experiences including some in the higher risk age categories.

lol you've even got soft viruses

The stats on virus genome sequencing are here and make interesting reading. Australia and NZ are doing it based on relatively* low case amounts, which make them outliers, Denmark and the UK perhaps more impressive based on the high case numbers (Denmark originating the mink strain). America can breathe easy, I have no doubt ye have a few mutant variants circulating.

America can breathe easy,

Well, hate to quibble, but looking at our stats this morning, I'm not so sure we can say this just yet.

Why, is it bad over there or something?

See for yourself: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-risk-map.html?referringSource=articleShare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw_q4tSU48

I was just looking at that NYTimes risk map, it's depressing as fuck.

Guys, I know things are bad in the US, I read and post itt all the time. We could do with fewer people reading past posts and popping off at asides because they’re stressed out though - trust me, we know.

I figured you knew what was going on. Just wanted to post that heat map.

why is the NYT still paywalling that

xps it’s pretty fucking appalling, even outside the horrific death rate there’s a load of people left with lifelong lung and heart damage etc who will never see justice for the Trump admin’s negligence.

Calling it now: the degree of "lifelong lung and heart damage" that we will see from this pandemic is going to be a lot less than the media would have you believe. A lot of shoddy and misleading reporting on that topic.

(citation needed)

xp lol ok

yeah, wtf

We've currently got on any given day in the UK around 4,000 people on ventilators. A third of them could die. Even ignoring the wider hospitalisation and long covid groups I think there's a lot of long term lung damage in the post.

Even if the numbers are overstated (lol come on), that’s a lot of people with long term conditions you’re adding to health systems inadequate to deal with the people with chronic conditions that we already have.

We have maybe eased the pressure with 100k+ in the UK no longer suffering those chronic conditions :(

Calling it now: the degree of "lifelong lung and heart damage" that we will see from this pandemic is going to be a lot less than the media would have you believe. A lot of shoddy and misleading reporting on that topic.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

come on man you can keep this to yourself

Yeah, no live posting the onset of brain worms, please.

That’s been his shtick for months, the suburban air is getting to him

They should absolutely have left that guy go.

that was my first reaction, too. which is probably why the guy in the video is a doctor and i am not!

― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:00 AM (two hours ago)

obviously I wasn't there, but I would say there was a non-zero chance the patient was too altered to make that decision for himself

I mean, as a non essential worker that has no other high risk factors and is under 45, I'll be in the last group (rightly so) and I initially assumed my first jab would be around June of 2022. I've yet to see anything in my state's distribution statistics to disprove that, in fact, since we've actually seen dropping numbers of the doses coming into our state in recent weeks, I'm starting to wonder if that might be overly optimistic.

I hope so, maybe I'm just too focused on my own state's rate so far. I was kind of shocked to learn Illinois still has only vaccinated 1/3rd of their healthcare workers, as of Monday.

That’s probably on the low side nationally but not that low. Seems like lots of people who are eligible now via their jobs are refusing to get vaccinated or postponing it because they don’t want to be in the first cohort.

That’s been his shtick for months, the suburban air is getting to him